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  1. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    This is a post to nip a lot of similar ones in the bud. Most people will be wondering what devices will be supported, and which will fall by the wayside. I really don't have any solid evidence of anything, but what I do have is common sense and knowledge of the history of Android updates across different OEMs. That said, these probably aren't facts, but what they are may be pretty close to how it works. Let's tackle the question!
    Your device will fall into a few categories. I'm going to go one by one and answer the question.

    Nexus Devices:
    Mostly, yes. Anything Nexus 4+, both Nexus 7s, and the Nexus 10 are overwhelmingly likely to see this come to the device. There MAY even be some love for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but CERTAINLY NOT THE VERIZON model. (Did I make that clear enough?)

    Non-Nexus Devices:
    These fall into a couple of subcategories:
    Current Flagships - This means HTC One, SGS4 and any other huge current devices. They will probably see this near their end of life. You should note it probably won't be soon.
    Past Flagships - Note 2, SGS3, HTC Butterfly etc. There's a strong chance these will not see the update, however there is a possibility. It all depends on the workloads of the OEM coders and how long the OEMs want to support them. Also, if there will be a security fix or something down the line this would increase the chance they just roll it into 4.4.
    Old Flagships, mid rangers, budget devices, niche devices - No, you're not getting it. Just no.

    It's ok not to agree with me. I get that and would like to have ONE THREAD to discuss this stuff. Please post under here with your disagreements of my assessment and what you think. This is a discussion forum, just be respectful and maybe correct me if you know something I don't know!

    Have fun!
    09-03-2013 03:21 PM
  2. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    Wait, so my VZW GNex will be getting it, right? RIGHT?

    09-03-2013 03:24 PM
  3. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    This is a post to nip a lot of similar ones in the bud. Most people will be wondering what devices will be supported, and which will fall by the wayside. I really don't have any solid evidence of anything, but what I do have is common sense and knowledge of the history of Android updates across different OEMs. That said, these probably aren't facts, but what they are may be pretty close to how it works. Let's tackle the question!
    Your device will fall into a few categories. I'm going to go one by one and answer the question.

    Nexus Devices:
    Mostly, yes. Anything Nexus 4+, both Nexus 7s, and the Nexus 10 are overwhelmingly likely to see this come to the device. There MAY even be some love for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but CERTAINLY NOT THE VERIZON model. (Did I make that clear enough?)

    Non-Nexus Devices:
    These fall into a couple of subcategories:
    Current Flagships - This means HTC One, SGS4 and any other huge current devices. They will probably see this near their end of life. You should note it probably won't be soon.
    Past Flagships - Note 2, SGS3, HTC Butterfly etc. There's a strong chance these will not see the update, however there is a possibility. It all depends on the workloads of the OEM coders and how long the OEMs want to support them. Also, if there will be a security fix or something down the line this would increase the chance they just roll it into 4.4.
    Old Flagships, mid rangers, budget devices, niche devices - No, you're not getting it. Just no.

    It's ok not to agree with me. I get that and would like to have ONE THREAD to discuss this stuff. Please post under here with your disagreements of my assessment and what you think. This is a discussion forum, just be respectful and maybe correct me if you know something I don't know!

    Have fun!
    Highly inclined to agree with the rough breakdown. But that is the great side of rooting and flashing a custom ROM.
    09-03-2013 03:24 PM
  4. jaboop's Avatar
    I sure hope so! This isn't a old device

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
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    09-03-2013 03:27 PM
  5. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    As Golfdriver points out, this was in reference to OFFICIAL support from OEMs. Thank you for posting a totally sensical reply. I appreciate it.

    His point that developers out there will be hacking this into phones is 100% correct. They'll be working hard and you'll be reaping rewards of their work. Be sure to say thanks to the developers or even toss them some cash via paypal. They do a great job.
    09-03-2013 03:28 PM
  6. jaboop's Avatar
    How about rollout delay to devices? I believe people are going to be spamming the threads with. "where's my update???" "I live in blah blah when will I get it?"

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    09-03-2013 03:36 PM
  7. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    How about rollout delay to devices? I believe people are going to be spamming the threads with. "where's my update???" "I live in blah blah when will I get it?"

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    Well, I think pure Nexi (plural of nexus???) should be getting it very soon. Probably within a couple weeks.
    09-03-2013 03:39 PM
  8. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    Well, I think pure Nexi (plural of nexus???) should be getting it very soon. Probably within a couple weeks.
    I'd assume longer. 4.3 was just released. I have a feeling this is a lot more about generating buzz than it is about a release around the corner.
    09-03-2013 03:45 PM
  9. jaboop's Avatar
    Well, I think pure Nexi (plural of nexus???) should be getting it very soon. Probably within a couple weeks.
    The 2012 or 2013 edition ?

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    09-03-2013 03:45 PM
  10. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    The 2012 or 2013 edition ?

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    All supported Nexus devices. Not just tablets, but phones as well.
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    09-03-2013 03:47 PM
  11. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    We saw the changes in 4.3 and API Revision 18 (such as the fused low-power location API in Google Play Services) announced at I/O, and there was a reasonable delay before they were released. I'd expect that we may see similar basic information sometime in the next few weeks, with the release coinciding with the next Nexus device (keeping in mind the time of year, the Nexus 4 price drop, and lack of 8GB Nexus 4 restocking).

    It matches up. Only time will tell.
    09-03-2013 03:56 PM
  12. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I'd assume longer. 4.3 was just released. I have a feeling this is a lot more about generating buzz than it is about a release around the corner.
    Good point. Didn't think of that.
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    09-03-2013 03:59 PM
  13. jaboop's Avatar
    Is there any other confirmed information of 4.4? I know it's early but like Scott says there will be tons of buzz in the coming weeks.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-03-2013 04:07 PM
  14. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    Is there any other confirmed information of 4.4? I know it's early but like Scott says there will be tons of buzz in the coming weeks.
    Nothing on the version of Android, but there's this: Mysterious Nexus phone in the KitKat video.
    09-03-2013 06:04 PM
  15. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    Nothing on the version of Android, but there's this: Mysterious Nexus phone in the KitKat video.
    Another LG Nexus. Should be ok, at least.
    09-03-2013 06:15 PM
  16. shaytoon21's Avatar
    you didnt mention anything about the X....

    i feel as if the next nexus will be by moto to show off 4.5 and then all the new motorola's (new droids+X) will receive the update and then the current flagships/nexii
    09-03-2013 11:29 PM
  17. MERCDROID's Avatar
    you didnt mention anything about the X....

    i feel as if the next nexus will be by moto to show off 4.5 and then all the new motorola's (new droids+X) will receive the update and then the current flagships/nexii
    We haven't even gotten 4.4 yet, and you're concerned with 4.5? And, even if Motorola is tasked with the next Nexus device, all "current" Nexii will receive the update, before the new Droids or the X.
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    09-04-2013 12:40 AM
  18. titaniumSS's Avatar
    Agreed on the breakdown. I think my SGS3 will see 4.3 and that's it. That is, if I don't replace it with the GNote 3 beforehand.
    09-04-2013 04:29 AM
  19. blazer236ix's Avatar
    He said current flagships. Moto X is a flagship phone

    Posted From my HTC ONE via Android Central App
    09-04-2013 07:32 AM
  20. jaboop's Avatar
    He said current flagships. Moto X is a flagship phone

    Posted From my HTC ONE via Android Central App
    What about the Motorola ultra...

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-04-2013 07:47 AM
  21. Scott Kenyon's Avatar
    We haven't even gotten 4.4 yet, and you're concerned with 4.5? And, even if Motorola is tasked with the next Nexus device, all "current" Nexii will receive the update, before the new Droids or the X.
    Absolutely correct. Nexus devices will be the top priority. They always have been.

    What about the Motorola ultra...
    As far as the Droid branded devices, they probably will receive the update. This probably won't be nearly as fast as the other device, as we're talking about Verizon. Keep in mind Verizon's track record with getting phones updated is the worst among the US big four. Updating is not a priority to them.
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    09-04-2013 08:08 AM
  22. Pollster's Avatar
    There MAY even be some love for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but CERTAINLY NOT THE VERIZON model. (Did I make that clear enough?)
    I'll take that bet. Xoom LTE on VZW just got Jellybean, so I could see the VZW GNex getting KitKat around March or April. If Google is really serious about trying to get this on all devices, as they say, there might only be a 3 month delay.
    09-04-2013 11:57 AM
  23. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    Well, I think pure Nexi (plural of nexus???) should be getting it very soon. Probably within a couple weeks.
    I'd assume longer. 4.3 was just released. I have a feeling this is a lot more about generating buzz than it is about a release around the corner.
    I just posted this in another thread, so I'll just copy&paste my reply...

    Based on how Google has done things recently, one could guess that the release of the next version of Android (4.4) will coincide with the release of the next Nexus phone and 10" tablet, both due in late fall.

    Once that happens, factory images for all other recent Nexus devices should be available almost immediately, which at the very least will include the current Nexus 4, N10 and N7 (with OTAs rolled out a short time later). Some older Nexus devices may be supported as well, but it's hard to speculate past that.
    09-04-2013 04:04 PM
  24. shaytoon21's Avatar
    We haven't even gotten 4.4 yet, and you're concerned with 4.5? And, even if Motorola is tasked with the next Nexus device, all "current" Nexii will receive the update, before the new Droids or the X.
    my bad, i just realized i typed 4.5 opposed to 4.4. i think i may have done that in other threads too. oooops
    MERCDROID likes this.
    09-04-2013 04:06 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    Can't say I disagree in any way. I am betting that the Vzw GNex will have a working ROM within 2-3 hours of a code release (either via OTA or a purchase). 4.3 was about 4 hours for me this last time. Either way, it'll be academic. VZW Gnex is becoming an alarm clock/tinkering device tomorrow when the Moto X arrives. I'd be willing to bet my shoes that the Moto X gets it someday, but just like other OEM's, it might not be quick at all. Luckily the Nexus 7 will have it to play with the functionality in the mean time.

    MERCDROID likes this.
    09-04-2013 04:07 PM
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