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    Default SMS finally to be integrated into Hangouts



    Now PLEASSSSSE... integrate G Voice into Hangouts and I will be very happy.
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    Happy with this as long as the app isn't called Hangouts.

    No one associates 'Hangouts' with text messaging. If they remove the text message app, people won't know they're supposed to use 'hangouts' instead. Just call it Google Messenger and have the ability to do the video hangouts.
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    Useless to add this to hangouts, when the IM is still terrible and no voice calling. I still use google talk... I will just disable the app anyways. Time to delete my google account and make a fresh one to remove my phone number from their system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    Useless to add this to hangouts, when the IM is still terrible and no voice calling. I still use google talk... I will just disable the app anyways. Time to delete my google account and make a fresh one to remove my phone number from their system.

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    What do you mean IM is terrible? Hangouts works exceptionally well. Yea, voice calling is still missing but I think they haven't done it yet because they would rather spend time on integrating G Voice.
    Also not sure what you mean by your last sentence
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    I can do more with my SMS/MMS client than with hangouts. Its a pure text IM unless you create a Google+ profile which I will never do. Adding SMS to a bad IM client won't make me use it. Try sending a picture without a Social Profile ;-)

    Google stores your ohone number so people can search their database for you, similar to Apple. You can uncheck them, but there is no way to remove them. Check your settings dashboard. Theres a reason why they ask for phone number confirmation in hangouts.

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    You certainly do what's right for you but I don't do social networking and I use G+ purely for automatic pic upload and my picture albums (used to be Picasa before). I don't see any issues if no one can see your pictures/information.
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    Only thing I don't like about hangouts and preventing it from being my chat client is sending pictures. I don't like the sending a link (mobile) or email to view it. If they change that I'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tr-1 View Post
    You certainly do what's right for you but I don't do social networking and I use G+ purely for automatic pic upload and my picture albums (used to be Picasa before). I don't see any issues if no one can see your pictures/information.
    The issue is requiring the user to join a social network to get basic functionality, which is what that is these days. I will make a dropbox for that instead.

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    Google+ isn't s social network.

    It has a social network component, but that's a secondary, optional feature and you never have to use it if you prefer not to.


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    So you would rather use messaging, talk , and drop box at a much worse experience? Wow dude. Just create a Google plus account and don't use it lol. You're stubbornness is killing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Can Be Your Hero View Post
    Happy with this as long as the app isn't called Hangouts.

    No one associates 'Hangouts' with text messaging. If they remove the text message app, people won't know they're supposed to use 'hangouts' instead. Just call it Google Messenger and have the ability to do the video hangouts.
    I'm quite sure it will take all of one incoming text message for users to understand Hangouts is where you send SMS messages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    The issue is requiring the user to join a social network to get basic functionality, which is what that is these days. I will make a dropbox for that instead.

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    But if it has non social network features and you are not obligated to use social network features, then it's not really a social network app. Social network is only one component that no one is forcing you to use.

    It's mind boggling how paranoid you are that you elected to use inferior tools to accomplish the same task. Does dropBox even have automatic pic upload and pic editing tool selection on par with Google? Not being integrated into your account is also a pita
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    Quote Originally Posted by gone down south View Post
    Google+ isn't s social network.

    It has a social network component, but that's a secondary, optional feature and you never have to use it if you prefer not to.


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    Google+ is a Social Network.
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    So you would rather use messaging, talk , and drop box at a much worse experience? Wow dude. Just create a Google plus account and don't use it lol. You're stubbornness is killing you.
    "Messaging" is actually SMS/MMS. It's a fallback and no I don't want it lumped into an IM client unless it works like iMessage. Hangouts, from what I see, will work more like Facebook Messenger's SMS support, which makes it functionally worthless to me. There's a HUGE difference between the two implementations.

    Dropbox doesn't force me to join a Social Network, and it has other merits that put it ahead of Google Drive and SkyDrive for a ton of users. That is just one aspect related to the subject here. Delving into that would derail the thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by tr-1 View Post
    But if it has non social network features and you are not obligated to use social network features, then it's not really a social network app. Social network is only one component that no one is forcing you to use.

    It's mind boggling how paranoid you are that you elected to use inferior tools to accomplish the same task. Does dropBox even have automatic pic upload and pic editing tool selection on par with Google? Not being integrated into your account is also a pita
    The only thing mind-boggling is how mind-bogglingly sweeping your generalizations are...

    1. Not posting social updates doesn't suddenly change G+ from a Social Network to something else.

    By your illogic, if I only use Facebook for Messenger, then Facebook is therefore not really a Social App. This makes Zero (0) sense. IIRC, if you have Google+ enabled and open Hangouts you are getting Suggestions from Google+ - a rather large list of them at that... What do you call that? Should I spam hide them only to have them replaced with other suggestions???

    2. Dropbox had Auto Upload before Google. I won't even comment on your "inferior" comment since it just make you look like a fanboy and I know better than to get into the details with people like that (and they often are clueless about said details, resorting instead to ad hominems, like your "mind-boggling... paranoid" comment).

    3. I don't care about Image Editing in Google+, because the Snapseed app is free (don't use it) and my phone has Photo/Video Editors Built In and I have purchased Photoshop Touch. I'm not at a loss for those capabilities. I also don't spam share photos from my phone. I used the photo sharing example as a way to illustrate how worthless this service is if you do not buy into Google+, which most mainstream consumers aren't willing to do - clearly (look at the number and engagement data, I'm not going to argue about this).

    4. Additionally, I use cloud storage and Auto-Upload/Sharing video, not photos - particularly avoiding the type of quality loss you may get form other sources (like posting to Facebook, which compresses). Training videos that I take with my phone I share with coaches and other athletes, for example. AFAIK, you cannot edit video on Google+. That is done on a desktop PC and then uploaded with a program directly to Cloud Storage of a Sharing Service. Currently I'm using SkyDrive for this, but want to separate it from my normal data. Video Analysis is not done on Google+ or in Snapseed, on mobile it is done in apps like Coach's Eye, Dartfish Express, Ubersense, etc. I do share screen caps from video, taken from video analysis applications, however editing those typically only hurts the quality...

    Auto-Awesome is the most useless thing for this type of media (it often results in quality loss - I've tried it), so I'd have to have it toggled off.

    To be quite honest, my device has become more useful since I've moved everything off of Google to 3rd party services, which tend to be better designed and offer a better user experience (Ever tried to attach a Document after starting an email in the Android email app? Almost feel like iOS!). It's interesting how you make sweeping statements about the inferiority of rival products when many of the Google apps are quite limited compared to OEM or 3rd party offerings - Gmail being the most prominent example...

    Search, Maps/Earth, and YouTube are the only Google Apps that I use a lot on my device. I don't use Google Talk anymore. I moved most people to Skype (and Facebook Messenger for those who use that). The rest aren't decently portable and I still use my Laptop a ton (Windows 8, where other services are better integrated).
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    I'm quite sure it will take all of one incoming text message for users to understand Hangouts is where you send SMS messages.
    You'd be surprised, as BlackBerry had to add a HUB icon in 10.2 for users to get to the hub because they didn't understand it just took a swipe to the right.

    I wouldn't put it past people not being able to figure it out and complain.

    I for one welcome the idea of having everything integrated as its less apps I need and less icons cluttering my app drawer.

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    Default Re: SMS finally to be integrated into Hangouts

    I apologize ahead of time, but I am unclear on what exactly are the requirements for Hangouts.

    A little background, my employer does not allows its employees have Social Media and to date I have never signed up for any of the Social Media outlets including Google + no matter how hard Google tries to push me to it.

    Does Hangouts require G+ (Social Media)?

    Obviously not being allowed to have Social Media (by my employer) and Google making Hangouts the SMS/MMS application would create issues for people myself (I realize that I and my colleagues are a minority).

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1431 View Post
    I apologize ahead of time, but I am unclear on what exactly are the requirements for Hangouts.

    A little background, my employer does not allows its employees have Social Media and to date I have never signed up for any of the Social Media outlets including Google + no matter how hard Google tries to push me to it.

    Does Hangouts require G+ (Social Media)?

    Obviously not being allowed to have Social Media (by my employer) and Google making Hangouts the SMS/MMS application would create issues for people myself (I realize that I and my colleagues are a minority).

    Thanks,
    Dan
    I think you do need Google + to use stuff like Hangouts. The great thing about Android though, is there is always plenty of other great SMS apps on the Play store that can be used instead.

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    I'm lost here. I can do video calling inside hangouts just fine.

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    You need a Google account, which is you have an Android phone you already do. Google+ is the backbone of the Google world and does contain a social network component, but it's much more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone down south View Post
    You need a Google account, which is you have an Android phone you already do. Google+ is the backbone of the Google world and does contain a social network component, but it's much more than that.

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    OK, I am now more confused than I was before.

    I was under the impression that Google + was the Social Media component of any given Google Account, as I understand your post Google + is the entire Google account, not just the Social Media component.

    Am I understanding you correctly?

    Dan

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    Group video calling and sharing pictures requires google+, which is as much a social network as Facebook is. Hangouts is to Google+ what Facebook Messenger is to Facebook. Features are heavily crippled without it.

    Also for Google Apps users they should not update to hangouts. It isn't really that fit for business use at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Can Be Your Hero View Post
    Happy with this as long as the app isn't called Hangouts.

    No one associates 'Hangouts' with text messaging. If they remove the text message app, people won't know they're supposed to use 'hangouts' instead. Just call it Google Messenger and have the ability to do the video hangouts.
    +1 this might take a week or two explaining to my girlfriend how to text -_-
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    If this is the case, I finally get to use my awesome GV number
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    this thread is completley off topic..

    google+ (aka G+) IS in fact a Social Network. It's meant for you to join, and SHARE with other member's.. IF you have a Google Account (Gmail, GDocs, YouTube, etc) you have a Google+ Account.. It's esentially the backbone of Google's services now. It holds everything you've done on the web while logged in, It is how Google Identifies you.

    Log into ANY google Service, look at the top bar and it'll say +yourname (mine says +Raymond) - this links to your G+ page.. Yes you can "Opt Out" of it, so to speak.
    With Hangouts, its essentially iMessage/Facebook Messenger/Skype/BBM.. Which are ALL essentially part of a Social Network of sorts.

    I, for one, am eXTREAMLY excited for this, I love the G+ app, and the fact all my pictures get auto-uploaded, as well as having a unified service. I guess I trust Google a bit more then other's do. I have nothing to hide what so ever, and I dont need SUPER HI-RES PICTURES/VIDEOS uploaded.. I have a $600 SLR that's dedicated to taking pictures, its great for WEB QUALITY SHOTS and for sharing with my friends through Hangouts/MMS/FB Messenger (nobody i know uses Skype-it sucks)

    Having it integrated is AWESOME though, less confusion, and i've already gotten soo many on board, and if it operates like iMessage in any way or shape, it'll be the greatest thing to come to Android! and it'd complete the Google Messenger Experience we've all been looking for (Before hangouts, and when GTalk/Messenger/GVoice were around)
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