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    Default Disapointed with KitKat

    Hey all

    ATT S4 user here. Got the update and was happy to receive it, Now that I have it I don't see what the big hoopla was all about. I did notice that since the update I am constantly being asked to sign into Picasa pictures or something which I keep declining and then it goes away...Anyone know about this and how to stop it if you can?

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    Picasa and Gallery app are finally being integrated in the "Photos" app now. They are finally making it all in one place now.
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    Do I have to sign into the app?
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    Same issue with my KK htc one..

    i just went ahead and signed in just to stop the notifications.
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    Hey off topic but can you post some screenshots of kitkat? I want to know if its worth switching from liquid smooth kitkat

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    Completely agree I liked 4.2.2 jelly bean better on my Moto X. Could careless about kitkat

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    You know, I'm baffled. I love Android, Always will as frustrating as it can be, It'll likely be all I ever use.

    Way back in the day, When Android first came to and up till about ICS I just bought entry to mid level phones that came with Froyo, GB, HC, ICS, etc and never got updated, So I really had nothing to judge android on in terms of what they break, remove, etc with subsequent updates.

    Right now I'm happy with my S3 mostly....The kink here is when they updated the phone to 4.3 from the 4.1 series. Now there is a slight lag within the OS and it's annoying. Then not long ago I got a Google services update and now my battery is not what it used to be.

    Now I read up on KitKat and it's deja-vu all over again with folks talking about what bugs it introduces (for many, not all).

    I can only imagine how complex coding, programming, etc can be and sometimes you get bugs..but IMO, I think they have been putting out pisspoor updates. Then you gotta wonder if they will update the update that introduced bugs, problems, etc.

    In a few weeks I think I'll be pulling the trigger on rooting and custom ROMs considering this forum has some of the nicest, smartest, and helpful developers I've ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larzukzek View Post
    You know, I'm baffled. I love Android, Always will as frustrating as it can be, It'll likely be all I ever use.

    Way back in the day, When Android first came to and up till about ICS I just bought entry to mid level phones that came with Froyo, GB, HC, ICS, etc and never got updated, So I really had nothing to judge android on in terms of what they break, remove, etc with subsequent updates.

    Right now I'm happy with my S3 mostly....The kink here is when they updated the phone to 4.3 from the 4.1 series. Now there is a slight lag within the OS and it's annoying. Then not long ago I got a Google services update and now my battery is not what it used to be.

    Now I read up on KitKat and it's deja-vu all over again with folks talking about what bugs it introduces (for many, not all).

    I can only imagine how complex coding, programming, etc can be and sometimes you get bugs..but IMO, I think they have been putting out pisspoor updates. Then you gotta wonder if they will update the update that introduced bugs, problems, etc.

    In a few weeks I think I'll be pulling the trigger on rooting and custom ROMs considering this forum has some of the nicest, smartest, and helpful developers I've ever seen.
    Let me go ahead and tell you stock kitkat is a lot more fast and stable than touchwiz will ever be.

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    That's half the problem. Every time I turn around there's a new thread or person complaining with KitKat..My battery life is total garbage, My gmail don't work, My wifi don't work, etc, The list goes on. Was the same way with the update from 4.1 to 4.3 with the S3...That's what I was mostly talking about..If my only problem after the KK update is my continued minute lag with TW..I'll be stoked. Though I doubt that will be the case.

    Any rate, I guess all this bad is good, Considering it's the one driving factor in me pulling the trigger on rooting and using custom roms.
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    My volume controls have gone completely screwy since updating. When listening to media via either the chrome browser or the native browser, if I try to use either the hard volume buttons or the software controls, sometimes it doesn't work at all, sometimes it changes the notification or ringer volumes and worst of all, sometimes it cause the phone to bypass the headphones and start playing music out loud on the speakers....something that's a huge problem when I'm using it at work.

    On top of that, I can no longer share photos directly from my gallery to facebook/twitter/messages/email/etc - when I hit the share button it just flashes quickly and the menu disappears.

    I'm about to go now and try to figure out how/if I can roll back to Jellybean on my phone.
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    Yeah I hear ya. Kind of experiencing the same thing on mine. Someone the apps dont respond either. I've been trying to find a way to synch my music ala ipod and itunes but sadly I can't seem to find anything to do it. I know this isn't an issue with Kit Kat but the volume thing has been happening to me as well. At one point I tried to root my phone to get the pure google experience but after reading tips on how to do it I found it wasn't meant for my phone so now when I boot my phone it lists "custom" with a lock that shows unlocked. I can't seem to fix that issue.
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    You can sync Samsung phones with Kies. That is not an issue. I did hear Kit Kat breaks SD card support, though...

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    Yeah so card doesn't work with double twist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larzukzek View Post
    Right now I'm happy with my S3 mostly....The kink here is when they updated the phone to 4.3 from the 4.1 series. Now there is a slight lag within the OS and it's annoying. Then not long ago I got a Google services update and now my battery is not what it used to be.
    The problem seems more related to the carrier and/or manufacturer... when I was on my S2 (T989), GB was smooth, ICS was not bad, and JB 4.1 was amazingly laggy, but all of that was due to carrier and OEM bloat/crap -- when I went to CM10.1 (JB 4.2.2) on the same phone, everything was buttery-smooth, battery life was better, and there were far fewer crashes.

    It's one of the reasons I went the Nexus route -- the updates are plain Android with no crap; I've gone from 4.1 to 4.2 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 (on either N4 or N7 (2012)) and it was always smooth sailing. I know it's not always super-smooth, but I'd hazard that updating a Nexus carries with it the same failure rate as iOS (relatively low).
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    Kitkat on Note 3 (unlocked international) stinks.

    1) S Cover sometimes locks screen on, not reproducible; happens often after low battery notification.
    2) Gallery is unstable and very slow; sometimes sharing does not work.
    3) Battery drain has noticeably increased.
    4) Warm, sometimes hot.
    5) Camera shutter release slower, crashes.

    This is what I've noted to date. Anyone else with similar issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blobert View Post
    Kitkat on Note 3 (unlocked international) stinks.

    1) S Cover sometimes locks screen on, not reproducible; happens often after low battery notification.
    2) Gallery is unstable and very slow; sometimes sharing does not work.
    3) Battery drain has noticeably increased.
    4) Warm, sometimes hot.
    5) Camera shutter release slower, crashes.

    This is what I've noted to date. Anyone else with similar issues?
    Might try clearing the cache or a factory reset, I've had kitkat since release day on Sprint, everything is a little faster than it was on JB, battery life unchanged, camera is faster, I have the s view case, but haven't used it since the update so can't say, only problem I've had is ext SD card support with some apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    I did hear Kit Kat breaks SD card support, though...
    Can you or anyone else elaborate on this please? Like you can no longer move Apps to SD? Or SD storage all together does not work? I'm somewhat of an audiophile and use my phone as a music player with around 30 some odd GB's of music, So having SD storage is critical.

    I read an article that talked about the changes although I couldn't truly understand the changes through the tech talk and how it affects the end user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larzukzek View Post
    Can you or anyone else elaborate on this please? Like you can no longer move Apps to SD? Or SD storage all together does not work? I'm somewhat of an audiophile and use my phone as a music player with around 30 some odd GB's of music, So having SD storage is critical.

    I read an article that talked about the changes although I couldn't truly understand the changes through the tech talk and how it affects the end user.
    Sd cards work fine i have no idea what that user is talking about...

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    For one reason or another the Doubletwist app says there's an error with my SD Card and won't play my music. I have toyed around with Rooting and want to get the pure Google experience and have looked for a ROM that will give me that experience.....Or I could buy the next Nexus

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    Yes I have read the writing to SD card on some phones no longer works due to a permission change. Not sure if application updates will reverse that or not. If the application simply reads from the card it should not be a problem.

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    You can still move files and stuff there, it's just third party apps that can't access the sd card. From what I understood, which wasn't much either, was that it was done to keep junk files from 3rd party apps from cluttering up your SD card with crapola. I don't use any other app but stock music to listen to my songs, it gets the job done lol. Same with your stock camera, you should still be able to save your pictures to SD but not with a third party camera app. This is just what I read on various tech blogs, so I can't elaborate too much.

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    Third party apps being unable to write to SD...

    What limitations if any, would this impose on PowerAmp? Playlists? Tag Editing? Etc.

    Be nice if they could come out and say in laymans terms what the change would mean for the average end user. I consider myself pretty intelligent, Although the way the explanation is written in some articles is archaic to me.
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    Yeah been noticing lately when I go on the internet with my device after I close it out, I am constantly getting "this program has encountered an error and has closed" I found an article online to change my device to a Nexus Kit Kat but it didn't work. anyone out there familiar with rooting a att galaxy s4 to make it a pure google android device?

    This is getting ridiculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larzukzek View Post
    Third party apps being unable to write to SD...

    What limitations if any, would this impose on PowerAmp? Playlists? Tag Editing? Etc.

    Be nice if they could come out and say in laymans terms what the change would mean for the average end user. I consider myself pretty intelligent, Although the way the explanation is written in some articles is archaic to me.
    If you use a Podcast app, then it won't be able to download podcasts to the SD Card. That means if you have a lot of subscriptions that Sync i.e. 3 episodes per subscription and they're like 50MB MP3 files each episode, you're going to have to put them on internal storage and they will eat up a ton of space. Music services that could cache to SD Card won't be able to anymore, so all your offline music will have to go onto the internal storage, which can eat up a ton of space.

    If you have a 16GB device, and you have like 4GB of this type of data on the SD Card currently, you may have to reconfigure everything so now you'll be moving that to the internal storage unless you want to take a huge hit to user experience trying to manage that. It can be a big deal for some people. On a 32GB device, it may not be a showstopper.

    On something like a GS4 with not a huge amount of free internal storage even out of the box (compared to other devices), it can be a huge factor and a potential usability nightmare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparker781 View Post
    Yeah been noticing lately when I go on the internet with my device after I close it out, I am constantly getting "this program has encountered an error and has closed" I found an article online to change my device to a Nexus Kit Kat but it didn't work. anyone out there familiar with rooting a att galaxy s4 to make it a pure google android device?

    This is getting ridiculous
    Check xda developers. Also its called AOSP not nexus KitKat.

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