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    I need some help setting up bluetooth events. I am new to llama and got the basic stuff setup but want to configure bluetooth to be enabled when I am in the car.

    A couple of options I have thought of:

    1 - Add to my not at home event that turns bluetooth on when not at home and then turn it off when at home. That will work but a lot of times I am not at home and also not in the car.
    2 - I can create an event to turn bluetooth on for 1 minute then disconnect if not connected. I would have to schedule this to repeat to re-connect after I get in and out of the car. That does not seem very battery friendly.

    Whats the best way to do this?
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    One way to do it is using bluetooth polling. I don't recommend it since it doesn't behave properly.

    What I do to connect to my car is:

    - Every time I get out of my house, I turn bluetooth on for at least 3 minutes and turn off if not connected. Since my home area only have my home wifi network as a "cell tower", it works fine.

    - then, when I disconnect from the car and I'm not at home, I start my own bluetooth polling every 5 minutes.

    - connected to the car again, bluetooth polling off

    - disconnected from the car, bluetooth off
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    Kurokirasama

    you skipped my reply
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    ooooh that cheeky Kurokirasama!!!
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    How odd, I'm sure I answered you.

    About polling, look under polling group in the backup, or a few post ago u ve the details too.

    Edited,

    - rename your location "home" learned by cell towers to "near home"
    - in experimental configurations enable wifi polling.
    - create an area called "home" and just add as a "cell tower" your wifi name or Mac.
    - event; when leaving home turn wifi off.
    - events;
    1. In near home but not at home, change wifi polling rate to 5 min
    2. Leaving near home or at home, change wifi polling to never.

    About wave control. Any app that use proximity sensor all the time will consume a lot of battery, even more if it is used during screen off. That's why I activate it only during calls, and end with them.

    To use it is simple. First your needs to enable an app option to get executed in the background, and create a internal profile where all gestures are empty (so only call gestures are available). When the call starts, you run the app, one or two seconds later you run its plugin, activating the empty profile and enabling the proximity sensor reading. When the call ends, you stop the reading (with the pluging) and kill the app.
    The event is called "ending call" in system control group.

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    Love this app, have been using since my Blackberry days 4 or 5 years ago. Here's the issue I am trying to figure out now - hoping someone will have an answer for me:
    I own a Galaxy S3, and as much as I love it, it is a battery hog. What I would love to do is create a profile which when enabled, also enables/disables the wifi, gps, bluetooth, and mobile data. I know that's where events come in, so is there a condition I can enable in an event that would trigger the event based on a profile (i.e. when in "Road Trip", disable wifi, etc....)? Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    About wave control. Any app that use proximity sensor all the time will consume a lot of battery, even more if it is used during screen off. That's why I activate it only during calls, and end with them.

    To use it is simple. First your needs to enable an app option to get executed in the background, and create a internal profile where all gestures are empty (so only call gestures are available). When the call starts, you run the app, one or two seconds later you run its plugin, activating the empty profile and enabling the proximity sensor reading. When the call ends, you stop the reading (with the pluging) and kill the app.
    The event is called "ending call" in system control group.

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    Ok, thanks. I'm actually testing the wifi polling, I never knew one had to create near areas and wifi names as an area. Since I use multiple areas with trusted wifi's, I don't use home as a name and also use other areas so I hope I got it right.

    As for the proximity app, unfortunately I always need it on so I can wake my device up since my power button is useless. Or maybe I can just make Llama run the app whenever I turn my screen off, but it might also be a problem because when my pattern lock is enabled, I would have to unlock and tap on sleep in my notification drawer/quick settings...thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam Clark View Post
    Love this app, have been using since my Blackberry days 4 or 5 years ago. Here's the issue I am trying to figure out now - hoping someone will have an answer for me:
    I own a Galaxy S3, and as much as I love it, it is a battery hog. What I would love to do is create a profile which when enabled, also enables/disables the wifi, gps, bluetooth, and mobile data. I know that's where events come in, so is there a condition I can enable in an event that would trigger the event based on a profile (i.e. when in "Road Trip", disable wifi, etc....)? Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
    If you do road trips very often and in specific areas, you can make Llama learn those areas or your daily areas and add them as conditions to enable or disable your network connections. For instance when leaving Areas (home + work + family) - disable wifi, disable gps, disable bluetooth, disable mobile data.
    Assuming you always have them on.

    I suggest you read through the thread too, you might find other useful ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier D View Post
    Ok, thanks. I'm actually testing the wifi polling, I never knew one had to create near areas and wifi names as an area. Since I use multiple areas with trusted wifi's, I don't use home as a name and also use other areas so I hope I got it right.

    As for the proximity app, unfortunately I always need it on so I can wake my device up since my power button is useless. Or maybe I can just make Llama run the app whenever I turn my screen off, but it might also be a problem because when my pattern lock is enabled, I would have to unlock and tap on sleep in my notification drawer/quick settings...thoughts?
    Is a good idea to have it enabled only with the screen off. You could use an app like "keep the screen on", to keep the screen on while you use the phone...



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    Despite my wifi off event, that switches wifi off and data on when i leave an area, when i go into a "free wifi cloud" zone somehow my wifi turn itself on again.......grrrrrr how do i overcome that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Is a good idea to have it enabled only with the screen off. You could use an app like "keep the screen on", to keep the screen on while you use the phone...



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    That's not gonna work for me. My power button is broken, I need the sensor to wake my phone up, I don't have a choice, besides I make Llama change the screen timeout time depending on where I am.

    I've adopted the wifi polling feature by following your steps, unfortunately it misbehaves. I'm actually at home writing this post from my computer. But since I got home, I checked Llama and it thinks I'm at home (the wifi signal designated to the area). Weird...I'll post my events regarding the wifi when I get a chance, because they're not as simple as you suggested, I put my personal touch in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier D View Post
    That's not gonna work for me. My power button is broken, I need the sensor to wake my phone up, I don't have a choice, besides I make Llama change the screen timeout time depending on where I am.

    I've adopted the wifi polling feature by following your steps, unfortunately it misbehaves. I'm actually at home writing this post from my computer. But since I got home, I checked Llama and it thinks I'm at home (the wifi signal designated to the area). Weird...I'll post my events regarding the wifi when I get a chance, because they're not as simple as you suggested, I put my personal touch in them.
    That's why you enable the sensor only with the screen off, to turn it on again. The other app will keep your screen on while you use it, so it doesn't s accidentally turn off.

    You are at home and Llama thinks that you are at home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    That's why you enable the sensor only with the screen off, to turn it on again. The other app will keep your screen on while you use it, so it doesn't s accidentally turn off.

    You are at home and Llama thinks that you are at home?

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    What I meant is I'm home but the wifi polling event didn't trigger. screenshots will show how.

    "grenouillère" is home for me. Let me know if I did something wrong
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    with reference to WIFI Name in a particular area, I have 4 areas, all of which have a known Wifi. But only one of those four in "My areas" have a recognised wifi name (as well as 30-40 cells)

    How do i add a wifi name (ie a wifi SSID) to an area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickmax1 View Post
    with reference to WIFI Name in a particular area, I have 4 areas, all of which have a known Wifi. But only one of those four in "My areas" have a recognised wifi name (as well as 30-40 cells)

    How do i add a wifi name (ie a wifi SSID) to an area?
    Wifi polling has to be enabled in settings first. Go to the Recent tab, long press on the Wifi name or Mac and add it to the desired area
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    olivier D - thanks! i never use wifi polling i really need to get my head round its usefulness.
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    This is weird. I've cleaned up my WiFi events and just noticed that the WiFi polling to never action keeps the WiFi on forever. Shouldn't it do the opposite kurokirasama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier D View Post
    What I meant is I'm home but the wifi polling event didn't trigger. screenshots will show how.

    "grenouillère" is home for me. Let me know if I did something wrong
    First, if you are at home at llama think so too, then at some point wifi polling should have been enabled, isn't it?

    To be sure, when you get at home, check the recent events list and see what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    First, if you are at home at llama think so too, then at some point wifi polling should have been enabled, isn't it?

    To be sure, when you get at home, check the recent events list and see what happened.

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    Take a look at my other questions when you get a chance.

    Thanks for your reply, to answer your question, when I'm home and check the recent tab, it shows a list of other WiFi names, not the one I registered for home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier D View Post
    Take a look at my other questions when you get a chance.

    Thanks for your reply, to answer your question, when I'm home and check the recent tab, it shows a list of other WiFi names, not the one I registered for home.
    Not that tab, the recent event list. In the event tab, at the bottom there is a clock like icon, click there and you will see the latest events executed.

    About your wifi on after polling question, same procedure to see what going on. Are previous screen shots all your wifi related events? If not, try to post them all to check them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Not that tab, the recent event list. In the event tab, at the bottom there is a clock like icon, click there and you will see the latest events executed.

    About your wifi on after polling question, same procedure to see what going on. Are previous screen shots all your wifi related events? If not, try to post them all to check them out.

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    I'm not home, but as soon as I get a chance to replicate the events, I'll take screenshots and post them.
    My previous wifi events screenshots are old because I've cleaned them up. I've uploaded new ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier D View Post
    I'm not home, but as soon as I get a chance to replicate the events, I'll take screenshots and post them.
    My previous wifi events screenshots are old because I've cleaned them up. I've uploaded new ones
    I don't exactly see mistakes, but here are some things you could do to improve them.
    - Bye wifi : instead of turning on wifi for 3 minutes, turn it off immediately or queue an event to turning off after 3 minutes, so it doesn't interfiere with wifi polling, besides, your wifi is already turned on.

    - Wifi connect: this might cause problems. When you enter our wifi areas, wifi is Supposed to be off, only wifi polling turn it on and off, so you are missing here to turn on wifi. Thus, you should do the same thing (near home, home) with those networks you have there, or you will have to treat them differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    I don't exactly see mistakes, but here are some things you could do to improve them.
    - Bye wifi : instead of turning on wifi for 3 minutes, turn it off immediately or queue an event to turning off after 3 minutes, so it doesn't interfiere with wifi polling, besides, your wifi is already turned on.

    - Wifi connect: this might cause problems. When you enter our wifi areas, wifi is Supposed to be off, only wifi polling turn it on and off, so you are missing here to turn on wifi. Thus, you should do the same thing (near home, home) with those networks you have there, or you will have to treat them differently.

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    ...Had a busy week...

    I would post all the screenshots I've taken to show how my events are behaving differently from what I expected but it's not worth it since I've decided to go back to my own wifi polling method by following your advice where I create a separate event that turns wifi on every 5 minutes with a queued event that turns wifi off after 5 seconds if not connected ; instead of turning the wifi on for 1 minute...

    I have some concerns about my night and day events. I hope I find some time to describe and show what I want Llama to do and how I've done it so far.
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    new beta out



    small but important for galaxy S4 users.
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    Is it possible to use Llama to disable my pattern lock when I am in certain areas, say at home ?
    I have added the action "Disable screen lock after unlock", but it does not seem to work ?
    any suggestions ?
    the only other action in that event is to switch the profile to "soft" - lower notification volumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhlsg View Post
    Is it possible to use Llama to disable my pattern lock when I am in certain areas, say at home ?
    I have added the action "Disable screen lock after unlock", but it does not seem to work ?
    any suggestions ?
    the only other action in that event is to switch the profile to "soft" - lower notification volumes.
    That's supposed to work. I guess you are aware that it will disable it after you unlock your phone for the first time. You can also try the forced option.

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