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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Hello, i have this issue.

    I have the event that when at home and screen is on then it turns wifi on. However, i think that it could be more battery friendy if we could use the user is present condition (ie, screenlock is passed) instead of the screen is on condition.

    I tried it, but the event triggers even with the screen off. Also, i have another event that when the screen is off it turns wifi off after a delay. So when i change the first event to the user is present condition, it happened that when the screes goes off, my second event turns wifi off, but then the first event turns wifi on... and so on...

    So, any ideas on how to get this working??
    Also had issues with the 'user present' condition. Looks like it depends on the lockscreen you're using. On my cyanogen rom, event also triggers immediately, so i had to use screen on instead.
  2. #127  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post

    I haven't found a good way to detect when i'm leave my car. so i just launch it from a shortcut in my cardock app. To detect when i come into my car, i have another NFC tag stuck on my car dock so when i put my phone in the dock, it switches automatically to carmode, turns on GPS, turn on bluetooth (for overhead speakers), launch my cardock app.
    If you are using a car dock that launches your phone into dock mode, just set up two new events where the conditions are "When in dock mode" and "When not in dock mode".
    I do that and then have it launch my music and Nav apps, set volume, etc., then kill those apps when I leave dock mode. Works perfectly! The only thing that doesn't work on ICS and other newer Android versions is toggle GPS. It used to work for me on earlier versions but the dev says Google stopped support since it's a privacy issue (letting a third party app turn on your GPS could certainly be considered an invasion of privacy). I wish you could override it though, I miss that convenience.

    I also cannot toggle 4g anymore which seems DEVICE specific. I could on my HTC Evo Design 4g but not on my SGS2,both running ICS.

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  3. #128  

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Hello, i have this issue.

    I have the event that when at home and screen is on then it turns wifi on. However, i think that it could be more battery friendy if we could use the user is present condition (ie, screenlock is passed) instead of the screen is on condition.

    I tried it, but the event triggers even with the screen off. Also, i have another event that when the screen is off it turns wifi off after a delay. So when i change the first event to the user is present condition, it happened that when the screes goes off, my second event turns wifi off, but then the first event turns wifi on... and so on...

    So, any ideas on how to get this working??
    So you are just trying to have wifi off when the phone is asleep?

    Have you tried just going into your phones wifi menu and pressing the Menu button to get to Advanced? There is a "Keep wifi on during sleep" policy there that can be set to Always, When plugged in, Never". I haven't gotten llama to play nicely with my wifi sleep policy and ended up just using this. I would like more advanced functionality though but have found this the simplest so far...

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  4. #129  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post

    For the GPS part, you can use "application in foreground" as a condition, with all of your GPS apps. Could take a while to configure, but should work.
    That's not the problem, the thing is that Llama can not turn gps on/off...
  5. #130  

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAWLESSVW View Post
    So you are just trying to have wifi off when the phone is asleep?

    Have you tried just going into your phones wifi menu and pressing the Menu button to get to Advanced? There is a "Keep wifi on during sleep" policy there that can be set to Always, When plugged in, Never". I haven't gotten llama to play nicely with my wifi sleep policy and ended up just using this. I would like more advanced functionality though but have found this the simplest so far...

    Sent from my Samsung GS2 using Tapatalk 2
    I tried that, but when turning the screen on (implies wifi on), I could not conect to the wifi network inmediately... only after a few minutes.
    Besides, I have a few sincronization events, that periodically conect wifi or data for syncing data. So the event to turn wifi off works in that cases too.
  6. #131  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post
    For the caller id stuff, I think il saw a locale plugin that speaks the caller id on the market.
    Don't you have the name or the link of that plugin, i look for it without sucess
  7. #132  

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    That's not the problem, the thing is that Llama can not turn gps on/off...
    You won't be able to toggle GPS on android 2.3 or higher. Google disabled 3rd party applications control over your phones GPS since it could be used to spy on you or invade privacy. It sucks and I wish it could be overridden but I understand the logic there.

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  8. #133  

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    I tried that, but when turning the screen on (implies wifi on), I could not conect to the wifi network inmediately... only after a few minutes.
    Besides, I have a few sincronization events, that periodically conect wifi or data for syncing data. So the event to turn wifi off works in that cases too.
    I know it sounds crazy but try rebooting your wireless router and hard reset your phone (pull the battery). I've seen this talked about on other threads not related to Llama where ppl's wifi would take a while to connect and people have reported success after doing that. Long shot but I would try it.

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  9. #134  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post
    Also had issues with the 'user present' condition. Looks like it depends on the lockscreen you're using. On my cyanogen rom, event also triggers immediately, so i had to use screen on instead.
    In my case the event triggers correctly after unlocking the screen, but it also triggers with the screen off, and I have no idea why...
    Last edited by kurokirasama; 01-30-2013 at 10:51 PM.
  10. #135  

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAWLESSVW View Post
    You won't be able to toggle GPS on android 2.3 or higher. Google disabled 3rd party applications control over your phones GPS since it could be used to spy on you or invade privacy. It sucks and I wish it could be overridden but I understand the logic there.

    Sent from my Samsung GS2 using Tapatalk 2
    I know, but there's nothing we can do about it?
  11. #136  

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAWLESSVW View Post
    I know it sounds crazy but try rebooting your wireless router and hard reset your phone (pull the battery). I've seen this talked about on other threads not related to Llama where ppl's wifi would take a while to connect and people have reported success after doing that. Long shot but I would try it.

    Sent from my Samsung GS2 using Tapatalk 2
    Yeah, that works... but is annoying doing that every time i use my phone...
  12. #137  

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    I know, but there's nothing we can do about it?
    An a rooted phone, it seems to work (cyanogen mod 10.1 using llama gps toggle and/or system settings locale plugin)
  13. #138  

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Don't you have the name or the link of that plugin, i look for it without sucess
    Here is the link (hope it works) :

    It's an app from developer "Ed Kawas" (the app name is in french for me, so i believe it will not help you a lot....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post
    An a rooted phone, it seems to work (cyanogen mod 10.1 using llama gps toggle and/or system settings locale plugin)
    Nice... I'm also rooted but with a leaked JB ROM, and it doesn't works...
  15. #140  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post
    Here is the link (hope it works) :

    It's an app from developer "Ed Kawas" (the app name is in french for me, so i believe it will not help you a lot....)
    Hi, thanks...

    It's not a plugin though, it's an app who does what we want... i'm testing it right now...
  16. #141  

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyrocks View Post
    An a rooted phone, it seems to work (cyanogen mod 10.1 using llama gps toggle and/or system settings locale plugin)
    It must be dependent on things other than simply android version then.
    For example, as I mentioned before... I had an HTC phone running android ICS and llama 4g toggle worked. On my Samsung GS2 running ICS it does not. GPS does not toggle on either. Both phones rooted/running custom ROMs. I would LOVE to know what makes the gps toggle tick. I have everything else automated when I get in the car. It's the one thing I have to do manually every time.


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  17. #142  

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    Is any one else having problems with getting their lock screen to stay disabled?

    I'm on a Galaxy S3 running 4.1.1 stock rooted.

    I have Llama set to disable lock screen after unlock, when I'm connected to my home WiFi. It will work for a couple minutes but it's pretty sketchy, it seems like any time I click on a notification it trips Llama up and then lock screen is enabled again.

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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  18. #143  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlsee View Post
    Is any one else having problems with getting their lock screen to stay disabled?

    I'm on a Galaxy S3 running 4.1.1 stock rooted.

    I have Llama set to disable lock screen after unlock, when I'm connected to my home WiFi. It will work for a couple minutes but it's pretty sketchy, it seems like any time I click on a notification it trips Llama up and then lock screen is enabled again.

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
    Not sure if this will help you, but it worked perfectly for me... a Tasker user.
    I'm sure you can incorporate the Secure Settings app into Llama and find a way to use this.
    Behind the scenes, it basically eliminates your PIN setting... so there's no chance of your lock screen coming back until you want it to.
    Good luck!

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
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    Hi guys and gals. I have been using Llama now for a few weeks and for the most part have it doing what I want. My profiles work well and I have my locations defined. My problem is with wifi; I have an event set that when I leave home it turns wifi off which works well but I also have an event set that when I return home it is supposed to turn wifi on, which it doesn't. I have tried the delay condition but that hasn't worked either. What am I missing? Any help is appreciated.
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    Hi, could you post the details of your events?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Hi, could you post the details of your events?

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    Sorry for the delay in the response. My events are pretty basic since I'm not clear on how to edit or set up complicated events. The two that are giving me trouble were set up using the basic event templates and are shown below:
    Event 1.
    Wifi at home
    When your phone connects to "wifi" (I have inserted my home network name here) at Home - enable WiFi

    Event 2
    Wifi off
    Upon leaving Home - disable WiFi

    Like I stated previously, Event 2 works great and everytime I leave home it disables the Wifi. The problem is connecting back to Wifi when I get home. I have tried the delay action and the repeating action thinking that the problem may be that when I hit the first cell identified as "home", I wasn't close enough to my home network to connect so it was ignoring the command. I couldn't get these to work either. I am sure I am missing something or there is an easy fix, but I just haven't found it yet.

    Thanks for the response and any help you can give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfmccallie View Post
    Sorry for the delay in the response. My events are pretty basic since I'm not clear on how to edit or set up complicated events. The two that are giving me trouble were set up using the basic event templates and are shown below:
    Event 1.
    Wifi at home
    When your phone connects to "wifi" (I have inserted my home network name here) at Home - enable WiFi

    Event 2
    Wifi off
    Upon leaving Home - disable WiFi

    Like I stated previously, Event 2 works great and everytime I leave home it disables the Wifi. The problem is connecting back to Wifi when I get home. I have tried the delay action and the repeating action thinking that the problem may be that when I hit the first cell identified as "home", I wasn't close enough to my home network to connect so it was ignoring the command. I couldn't get these to work either. I am sure I am missing something or there is an easy fix, but I just haven't found it yet.

    Thanks for the response and any help you can give.
    Well think closely about even #1, it's a situation of the chicken or the egg. Your WiFi is off, so it will never say "Hey, I'm near my home WiFi Network so turn on". It's like you keeping your eyes closed and me saying "When I hold up three fingers, OPEN YOUR EYES!" You'll never "see" it

    The best way to have Llama work is based on LOCATION, and the simplest (and least battery intensive) way to determine location is by what Cell tower you're connected to. You need to go to the "Areas" tab first and foremost, and teach Llama your Home area. Learn the area for several hours. And check it periodically...I've seen new towers pop up in my home or work areas and had to add them manually. You can see which towers you've been around in the "Recent" tab. Then when you enter or leave your "Home" area you can trigger and disable all sorts of stuff, but make it based on the area where the cell towers are.

    This is really where Llama differs (and excels IMO) from other event apps. Many others are based on
    TIME - they set profiles based on time of day. This doesn't work for me since I don't keep a military-strict schedule. I was tired this morning, and able to sleep in. As such, I don't want my phone notifying me. SO....Since I was at Home, and my phone was still plugged in, it stayed on Silent.

    And, how about last night? You could say - IF I plug my phone in on a Sunday night, go to Silent. But what if I'm out with my wife late that night and plug my phone in? I'm not "Home" so it shouldn't go to Silent (which Llama doesn't because it "sees" I'm not near my Home cell towers).

    So remember the essence of Llama is your physical location as determined by Cell Tower ID's. Everything else revolves around that.

    Then when you have Home learned, you may just need to rework that Event to just say When you're at home, Enable Wifi (and it will THEN automatically connect to your preferred home network).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLAWLESSVW View Post
    Well think closely about even #1, it's a situation of the chicken or the egg. Your WiFi is off, so it will never say "Hey, I'm near my home WiFi Network so turn on". It's like you keeping your eyes closed and me saying "When I hold up three fingers, OPEN YOUR EYES!" You'll never "see" it

    The best way to have Llama work is based on LOCATION, and the simplest (and least battery intensive) way to determine location is by what Cell tower you're connected to. You need to go to the "Areas" tab first and foremost, and teach Llama your Home area. Learn the area for several hours. And check it periodically...I've seen new towers pop up in my home or work areas and had to add them manually. You can see which towers you've been around in the "Recent" tab. Then when you enter or leave your "Home" area you can trigger and disable all sorts of stuff, but make it based on the area where the cell towers are.

    This is really where Llama differs (and excels IMO) from other event apps. Many others are based on
    TIME - they set profiles based on time of day. This doesn't work for me since I don't keep a military-strict schedule. I was tired this morning, and able to sleep in. As such, I don't want my phone notifying me. SO....Since I was at Home, and my phone was still plugged in, it stayed on Silent.

    And, how about last night? You could say - IF I plug my phone in on a Sunday night, go to Silent. But what if I'm out with my wife late that night and plug my phone in? I'm not "Home" so it shouldn't go to Silent (which Llama doesn't because it "sees" I'm not near my Home cell towers).

    So remember the essence of Llama is your physical location as determined by Cell Tower ID's. Everything else revolves around that.

    Then when you have Home learned, you may just need to rework that Event to just say When you're at home, Enable Wifi (and it will THEN automatically connect to your preferred home network).
    Hey Flawlessvw, thanks for your reply. The first thing I did with Llama was let it "learn" my home area and work area, so that is taken care of. You may be correct in that instead of saying when my phone connects...I should just say when home connect to wifi. I will revise my event to this scenario and see if it works. Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfmccallie View Post
    Hey Flawlessvw, thanks for your reply. The first thing I did with Llama was let it "learn" my home area and work area, so that is taken care of. You may be correct in that instead of saying when my phone connects...I should just say when home connect to wifi. I will revise my event to this scenario and see if it works. Thanks again.
    Hi,

    Your event should be,
    When at home (here home is what llama learned with cell towers), turn wifi on.

    Now, the problem with this event is that if your home area is to big, you will have wifi on too much time.
    To avoid this, and since I only turn wifi on with the screen at home, I do the following:

    - I enabled wifi polling.
    - I called the home area learned by cell towers "near home".
    - My home area only have my home wifi network as a "tower".
    - Outside "near home", I set the wifi polling schedule to "never".
    - At near home but not in home I set it to every 5 minutes.
    - And at home I set it to 1 hour.

    Now, since I have an event that executes a synchronization every few minutes, I think that the last point could be changed to "never". I asked the developer about it, but I still had no answer.

    Hope this help you.

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  25. #150  

    Question Re: Llama - Who's Using It and Any Good Examples?

    Hello,
    I'm new to Android and I have found Llama very useful and powerful to manage my smartphone. For now I have configured basic events but I would like to set up something more complex. For example I would to know if is possible to configure nested events, like:

    Event Name: Screen On
    Main Event: When Screen turn On
    Condition #1: when in zone home or office
    Event #1: wifi on, cellular data off
    OR
    Condition #2: when not in zone home or office (unknown area, into the car, on the road, etc....)
    Event #2: cellular data on, wifi off

    This to avoid to setup two separate events (Screen On at home/office - Screen On out of home/office).

    Thanks in advance
    Davide
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