Android messaging service

**titans30dude** · 11-19-2012, 05:52 PM

Ok so first came blackberry with bbm then came apple with imessage where is androids answer to the other messaging services? Will we ever see this? Why havent we seen this yet?

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Ry · 11-19-2012, 06:06 PM

Google needs to unify these three products -

Google Talk
Google+ Messenger
Google Voice

**tennvol** · 11-19-2012, 06:37 PM

It's called Google Talk.

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**nrm5110** · 11-19-2012, 06:41 PM

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**titans30dude** · 11-19-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by tennvol

It's called Google Talk.

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What i mean is have it intigrated on the messaging app and have it advertised like bbm and imeeage is...i never hear anything about gtalk

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**nrm5110** · 11-19-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by ajost95

What i mean is have it intigrated on the messaging app and have it advertised like bbm and imeeage is...i never hear anything about gtalk

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So you want novelty crap basically stuff that serves absolutely no purpose cool buy an iPhone or BlackBerry

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**titans30dude** · 11-19-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

So you want novelty crap basically stuff that serves absolutely no purpose cool buy an iPhone or BlackBerry

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So bbm and imessage is novelty crap? Bbm is what is actually keeping rim running and who doesnt like imessage?

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**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 05:07 AM

Yes novelty what is its purpose its still a messaging client all it does is allow messages to bb's or ijunk cool if you are looking for elitist crap I can text my friends because I have unlimited texts as do most people I can use gtalk to hit up people I can use gvoice to call if I so choose I mean really what are you looking for bragging rights because its certainly not functionality

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**titans30dude** · 11-20-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Yes novelty what is its purpose its still a messaging client all it does is allow messages to bb's or ijunk cool if you are looking for elitist crap I can text my friends because I have unlimited texts as do most people I can use gtalk to hit up people I can use gvoice to call if I so choose I mean really what are you looking for bragging rights because its certainly not functionality

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Theres really no bragging rights to be had since 2 other major platforms have there own "novelty crap" as you are putting it....i really dont see why u would get against having it..if u wouldnt like it then dont use it. So im guessing if you had a blackberry you wouldnt us bbm or wohld disable imessage if you had ios?

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**badbrad17** · 11-20-2012, 09:54 AM

I personally have never seen the benefit of BBM or imessage.

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**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 10:24 AM

Wait did you just say bb is a major platform lmfao let's not stretch the truth here. As far as your novelty messengers what can they do that messenger or gtalk can't please enlighten us

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Ry · 11-20-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Yes novelty what is its purpose its still a messaging client all it does is allow messages to bb's or ijunk cool if you are looking for elitist crap I can text my friends because I have unlimited texts as do most people I can use gtalk to hit up people I can use gvoice to call if I so choose I mean really what are you looking for bragging rights because its certainly not functionality

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Are you seriously downplaying the functionality of BBM and iMessage?

While BlackBerry and iOS/OS X users have a unified messaging platform, you're sitting there using SMS, Google Talk, and Google Voice. lol.

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Wait did you just say bb is a major platform lmfao let's not stretch the truth here. As far as your novelty messengers what can they do that messenger or gtalk can't please enlighten us

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Wait. (Google+) Messenger too? That's four.

Using Google Voice, can I send a group message out to multiple parties and have access to all of the replies?

Using Google Voice, can I send an MMS from my phone?

Using Google Talk, can I send a group message?

Using Google Voice, can I receive confirmation that the other party read my message?

BBM and iMessage are FAR from novelties.

**badbrad17** · 11-20-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ry

Are you seriously downplaying the functionality of BBM and iMessage?

While BlackBerry and iOS/OS X users have a unified messaging platform, you're sitting there using SMS, Google Talk, and Google Voice. lol.

Wait. (Google+) Messenger too? That's four.

Using Google Voice, can I send a group message out to multiple parties and have access to all of the replies?

Using Google Voice, can I send an MMS from my phone?

Using Google Talk, can I send a group message?

Using Google Voice, can I receive confirmation that the other party read my message?

BBM and iMessage are FAR from novelties.

I never use the Google Talk, +, voice things either.

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**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 11:56 AM

Gtalk can do group messaging I use it but its more of a chat feature. G+ messenger I use all the time for random chit chat and development rooms. I don't use gvoice but know it can do quite a bit but my original reference to messenger was actually meant for the MMS SMS app which with 4.2 supports group messaging also. But again what do these others offer that Google does not I'm confused

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Ry · 11-20-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by nrm5110

Gtalk can do group messaging I use it but its more of a chat feature. G+ messenger I use all the time for random chit chat and development rooms. I don't use gvoice but know it can do quite a bit but my original reference to messenger was actually meant for the MMS SMS app which with 4.2 supports group messaging also. But again what do these others offer that Google does not I'm confused

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I must have missed the Google Talk update that allowed group messaging.

What BBM and iMessage offer over Android's multiple messaging options is unification.

In the case of iMessage especially, iMessage works on all iOS devices and is now on OSX. On the iOS devices, the integration is seemless. One messaging app.

With iMessage, iOS users can get their messages on their iPads and iPods.

And these services go over the top of carriers - using data not message allotments.

Oh and how many devices are on 4.2? Exactly.

Google needs to unify Google Talk, Google+ Messenger, and Google Voice with the built-in SMS/MMS app.

**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

I must have missed the Google Talk update that allowed group messaging.

What BBM and iMessage offer over Android's multiple messaging options is unification.

In the case of iMessage especially, iMessage works on all iOS devices and is now on OSX. On the iOS devices, the integration is seemless. One messaging app.

With iMessage, iOS users can get their messages on their iPads and iPods.

And these services go over the top of carriers - using data not message allotments.

Oh and how many devices are on 4.2? Exactly.

Google needs to unify Google Talk, Google+ Messenger, and Google Voice with the built-in SMS/MMS app.

Maybe I am old fashioned and not lazy I don't need one app to rule them all gtalk messenger and voice all run on data so there's that lol why must everything be unified to everyone what happened to just working with what you got. As for phones on 4.2 I know alot of the apps can be made to work on 4.1 and also source is available so technically it can be on any android phone especially ones falling under decent specs the fact that most will never try is what's holding that issue up

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**badbrad17** · 11-20-2012, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

I must have missed the Google Talk update that allowed group messaging.

What BBM and iMessage offer over Android's multiple messaging options is unification.

In the case of iMessage especially, iMessage works on all iOS devices and is now on OSX. On the iOS devices, the integration is seemless. One messaging app.

With iMessage, iOS users can get their messages on their iPads and iPods.

And these services go over the top of carriers - using data not message allotments.

Oh and how many devices are on 4.2? Exactly.

Google needs to unify Google Talk, Google+ Messenger, and Google Voice with the built-in SMS/MMS app.

But the fact that bbm and iMessage only work on like devices and their OS doesn't tie everyone together. You get better connectivity using What's app. By making the messaging system exclusive you still end up with fragmentation between users. Texting is cheap enough and covers all my needs between the different os's. I hate it when everyone is using something different.

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**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Solutions Etcetera

Why would anybody want to use SMS on a smartphone with a data plan? To me it seems a little like using morse code over a voice line.

Probably because you don't always have data

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Ry · 11-20-2012, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by badbrad17

But the fact that bbm and iMessage only work on like devices and their OS doesn't tie everyone together. You get better connectivity using What's app. By making the messaging system exclusive you still end up with fragmentation between users. Texting is cheap enough and covers all my needs between the different os's. I hate it when everyone is using something different.

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We're in a battle of ecosystems now. Closing off these messaging systems is probably what RIM, Apple, and Google want.

If anything is a "novelty app" it's What's App.

**cormaster628** · 11-20-2012, 02:18 PM

I agree with that. Doesn't make sense to have 4 apps that are the same

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**xlDeMoNiClx** · 11-20-2012, 02:21 PM

BBM was fun and the only thing I miss from not having a BB anymore but I never found myself yearning for one on Android. If that's what you need to be happy with your OS then get an iPhone or BB. What's App is better anyway if you have people with BB's, iPhone's and Android's.

**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 02:29 PM

I don't have 4 apps that are the same g+ is a social media site. Gtalk is an im client. Messaging app is for SMS mms

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**t_kopta** · 11-20-2012, 03:38 PM

If I use Google messenger, will my limited amount of text usage be affected? My family has att and I have Verizon.

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**nrm5110** · 11-20-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by t_kopta

If I use Google messenger, will my limited amount of text usage be affected? My family has att and I have Verizon.

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G+ or gtalk will not affect text message limits but will use mobile data if not on wifi

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**Xopher** · 11-20-2012, 04:24 PM

I still use both a BlackBerry and an Android device (helps with development). Part of the issue is that many people think of BBM as just another messenger service. It actually has a lot of added features:

Send/Delivered/Read confirmations.
Send text, pictures, voice messages...
SMS contacts can be added into BBM for communicating from one list (chat to both BBM and SMS contacts from within BBM).
BBM Groups for social networking.
BBM Group calendar for sharing events.
BBM Group lists can be used for to-do lists, grocery lists, assigned tasks.
Games and apps can communicate via BBM.
BBM7 adds voice calls between BBM contacts (over wifi).
BB10 adds video chat to BBM.

A lot of what can be done through BBM can be emulated through various apps on Android. From all the different chat platforms (G+, GT, GV, Whatsapp, Kik...), to sharing a Google Calendar, most of it is covered (although I keep looking for a good group app). It would be nice if Google integrated their communication apps into one system, but until that happens, there is usually enough memory on current Android devices to handle loading up the ones you need for communicating with your group of friends and family. That, in itself, is a nice benefit of Android - flexibility to communicate with just about every platform.