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    A lot of people are going to be making the switch from a Pre to an Android device soon. Including me

    There's a few things I've become accustomed to let's see if we can sort them out.

    My concern right now is the music player. I like the WebOS player although some don't.
    Easy to search for songs, universal search works there.
    Music Player recommendations please, or is the built in player good enough?

    Cards are going to be missed but TaskOS will be one of the 1st apps to go on, unless there's some issue(?).

    Another thing I often do is open more than one browser card and switch between them. How does that work on Android? Let's forget TaskOS for the moment. Long press home and the last 6 apps are brought up, the browser windows will be identified?

    Sure there's things I'm not thinking of at the moment.
    If anybody else wants to chime in great.

    I've already found most of the apps I have installed and use on my Pre loaded in AppBrain waiting to be installed. Apps are not going to be an issue at all /:
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    Music player... I honestly don't use any of my devices for media (only my iPhone as a iPod in the gym -- don't want my Nexus One getting messed up. Ha). From what I hear, there is an app that a lot use. Try to search "music player" in the apps section and more than likely that topic will come up.

    Browser has windows, but doesn't show up separately in with the recent 6 apps. So when you long press, you'll see one browser icon and be taken to the last open tab. You can download Dolphin Browser and you actually get tabbed browsing like Chrome on your computer.

    Congrats... Android is a great platform in which I'm loving still.
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    the cards are somthing i don't think android can compare to. that is the one feature i feel the pre has the advantage over android phones.
    the music player concern is very hard to address because it all depends on personal preference. the stock player is good but the widget itself is garbage. what i have for my music is "pure music widget" which is a widget that has the same features as the stock one but you can set the size to whatever you like, 1x1 2x2 4x1 4x4 etc (you get the idea). plus if you have the album covers attached to it, they will be displayed on the widget. and it is skin-able.

    for the browser i would recomend dolphin hd. that also depends on what phone you are getting because it will only work on devices with 2.0 and above. that has the tabs and it also has a very appealing UI which is def a one up over the stock browser.

    a lot of this comes down to what you personally prefer. i've used a pre for a little bit and i really don't see anything that would make me want it over and android phone but then again that's my opinion and to each his own. When Froyo is released i feel that a lot of the features that you are mentioning will be addressed but that is just speculation and assumption so time will tell.

    good luck
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    Thanks guys. Here's a biggie:

    Gmail. From what I've read only the "primary" account gets pushed.
    I have two accounts. One is personal the other is for things like forum replies.
    The latter gets the most use but of course contacts and calendar is on the primary account.

    I'll assume the built in alarm clock is capable of waking one up to a chosen MP3?
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    gmail is pushed the fastest. other external email addresses come through but they aren't as consistent as the gmail one. i use my gmail for important stuff and personal stuff and then i use my hotmail for things that you need to enter an email address in order to sign up for accounts on sites to buy stuff (they are usually the biggest cause to my email filling up with spam.)

    the alarm clock uses alarm tones or you can use a custom ringtone that you can make from an app in the market called "ringdroid", at least that's what i use. you can take a song and select a clip to use as a ringtone. i have a clip from a song called "Motel of the white locust" by the band GlassJaw. If that doesn't wake you up then nothing will haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr4nk1yn View Post
    Thanks guys. Here's a biggie:

    Gmail. From what I've read only the "primary" account gets pushed.
    I have two accounts. One is personal the other is for things like forum replies.
    The latter gets the most use but of course contacts and calendar is on the primary account.

    I'll assume the built in alarm clock is capable of waking one up to a chosen MP3?
    Gmail should be push no matter how many accounts you have. I just doublechecked with my second gmail on my phone and it is push email (received the email under a minute of sending it).
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    I prefer the webos notification system though android's gets the job done. The way webos does them and they are unobtrusive works so well.
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    Coming from webOS to Android myself, I don't buy the argument that webOS has less intrusive notifications. The most annoying thing to me was the adjustment in screen size when you got webOS notifications. For instance, if you were in another application and you got a text, the screen would get smaller with the little black bar just to put the text icon in the corner. Particularly at times when the phone was getting slow, sometimes I would get phone lag from 5-10 seconds while everything adjusted.

    On Android, the notifications go up to the bar at the top which is always there anyway and I haven't had the same stuttering issue yet. As far as actually checking the notifications, I call them pretty even. You either click the icon at the bottom and see all your notifications on webOS or you slide down the notification screen with Android.
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    Another thing to add is I don't believe webOS has opened up the push notifications for other applications completely. My favorite app hands down on Google is the Scoreboard app which pushes notifications for your favorite teams in different sports with customization for innings, when someone scores, different quarters stuff like that. However this is something that should be on webOS soon most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aggreyj View Post
    Coming from webOS to Android myself, I don't buy the argument that webOS has less intrusive notifications. The most annoying thing to me was the adjustment in screen size when you got webOS notifications. For instance, if you were in another application and you got a text, the screen would get smaller with the little black bar just to put the text icon in the corner. Particularly at times when the phone was getting slow, sometimes I would get phone lag from 5-10 seconds while everything adjusted.

    On Android, the notifications go up to the bar at the top which is always there anyway and I haven't had the same stuttering issue yet. As far as actually checking the notifications, I call them pretty even. You either click the icon at the bottom and see all your notifications on webOS or you slide down the notification screen with Android.
    Yes the screen would get smaller but you could dismiss them, either system works but for example there is a big difference when receiving a call. On android, everything stops and the call screen comes up and you have to deal with it. With WebOS, the call screen only comes up in part of the window and you can still be doing what you are doing (like say writing a text for example). Just seemed more elegant I guess is the word I'd use.

    But yeah, all in all, both systems work for notifications.
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    Yeah, but if you actually tried to finish that text it'll dismiss the call. So it's kind of a moot point.

    But on the subject of text. I'll try the stock program first then Handcent.
    Does the stock SMS client embed photos in the threaded conversation? again I'm assuming that's common place now.

    The one thing that impressed me is how the message I was typing scaled to the what I was actually typing was visible. I hope like heck one of those two programs are the same. My touch pro could never get that right even with all the tweaking I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabbott View Post
    Yes the screen would get smaller but you could dismiss them, either system works but for example there is a big difference when receiving a call. On android, everything stops and the call screen comes up and you have to deal with it. With WebOS, the call screen only comes up in part of the window and you can still be doing what you are doing (like say writing a text for example). Just seemed more elegant I guess is the word I'd use.

    But yeah, all in all, both systems work for notifications.
    Considering how much a phone lags when the call comes in, I never considered this an advantage. This isn't just the Palm Pre though, I've had 3 smartphones (HTC Touch Diamond, Palm Pre & HTC Hero) and it seems to me that smartphones in general tend to freak out when it comes to phone calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr4nk1yn View Post
    Yeah, but if you actually tried to finish that text it'll dismiss the call. So it's kind of a moot point.
    For me, that was exactly the point. If I didn't want to take the call I could just keep texting. With android, if I'm in the middle of a text and a call comes in, the whole incoming call screen takes over and you are forced to deal with it.

    To each their own. I've been using a Pre since last June and now got an android phone a month ago so I can get used to android in prep for the EVO.

    Before having the android, I didn't think much of the notifications in WebOS and the things I mentioned, but since having a non-WebOS phone I began to appreciate them. At the same time I was pleasantly surprised with Android and found it to work for me. But there were those little things that WebOS did that I have come to appreciate. It is hard to explain but some of the simplicity of WebOS works well and becomes realized after trying something else.

    But until WebOS gets onto some better hardware and the OS is a little further polished, I'll stick with Android. Android can be pretty fun and the larger amount of available apps is nice.

    Anyway, thats just my experience.
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    The Droid has an led which I absolutely love because just from the color I can tell the type of notification and whether it's personal or work related. I wish all android phones had one but even the ones that don't handle notifications well, easily as well as the Pre IMO. I came from webOS and really don't miss anything from it although the card view was a nice feature. Android just takes getting used to and because it's so fast and customizable (on the better phones) it doesn't need a card view like system for fast switching. Apps can be grouped into folders,by pages or via 3rd party apps. Plus widgets further elimininate the need to launch apps. Oh and there are no 'too many cards open" issues like what plagued the Pre. For multiple web sites, tabbed browsing is supported in all the major browsers and works quite well. You'll also notice no 'end of the day' slowdowns that require a restart. My Pre was famous for getting like molasses at the end of the day which really became annoying as it took quite a while for it to boot up. I don't get that with Android.

    For music I use mixzing player. And you can pick what items you want Android to search via the search button, music being one of them( menu>settings>search>searchable items). It's off by default.
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    Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I pre-ordered my EVO yesterday and I'll be switching from the Pre so it's good to see a thread like this. I'm really looking forward to the expanded app catalog available for Android, one of my biggest complaints of WebOS is the lack of applications/developers, seems like all apps are iPhone/Android. How well does Android handle corporate Exchange email/contacts/calendar. EAS has never been perfect on the Pre so my expectations aren't too high ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by darreno1 View Post
    <snip> Apps can be grouped into folders,by pages or via 3rd party apps. <snip>
    I've seen some screenshots that had folders, this is a built in feature?
    One other concern is I have my launcher pages set up: general, multimedia, games, office.
    The idea of having all the apps on one scrolling launcher seems so inefficient.
    I was planning on using some of the homescreens to place my frequently used apps replacing the launcher pages to an extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr4nk1yn View Post
    I've seen some screenshots that had folders, this is a built in feature?
    One other concern is I have my launcher pages set up: general, multimedia, games, office.
    The idea of having all the apps on one scrolling launcher seems so inefficient.
    I was planning on using some of the homescreens to place my frequently used apps replacing the launcher pages to an extent.
    Yes, folders are built in. Long press the screen and then you can hit "Folders"
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    Quote Originally Posted by VMdoug View Post
    Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I pre-ordered my EVO yesterday and I'll be switching from the Pre so it's good to see a thread like this. I'm really looking forward to the expanded app catalog available for Android, one of my biggest complaints of WebOS is the lack of applications/developers, seems like all apps are iPhone/Android. How well does Android handle corporate Exchange email/contacts/calendar. EAS has never been perfect on the Pre so my expectations aren't too high ;-)
    How it handles exchange depends on your company's setup. With every update it has gotten better but if you need the best compatibility, I'd recommend purchasing Touchdown by Nitrodesk. The built-in client does work for many though so you'd have to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fr4nk1yn View Post
    I've seen some screenshots that had folders, this is a built in feature?
    One other concern is I have my launcher pages set up: general, multimedia, games, office.
    The idea of having all the apps on one scrolling launcher seems so inefficient.
    I was planning on using some of the homescreens to place my frequently used apps replacing the launcher pages to an extent.
    You should have no issues doing any of that with Sense since you get 7 home screens. And yes folders are a built-in feature. Plus, like I mentioned, there are many App organizer programs in the market if you're still not satisfied.

    Once setup efficiently, you should be no more than one swipe in either direction from your favorite apps / widgets.
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    Thought this was a troll thread... but good information here. As one of the many pre owners jumping ship... keep the tips / differences coming
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    Since we are asking about WebOS--> Android usage questions here:

    One thing I would like to know is does Android have a universal search feature? On the Pre you just open the keyboard and start typing. It then lists any contacts that match including bookmark shortcuts saved on the launcher, then apps that match, then gives the option to search Google, Wikipedia etc...

    It is intuitive for me. I can just type the first few character of an application then select and launch it really fast this way.

    I can also select a contact and hit the SMS icon next to their name and send a text really fast.

    Does Android allow this type of usage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Since we are asking about WebOS--> Android usage questions here:

    One thing I would like to know is does Android have a universal search feature? On the Pre you just open the keyboard and start typing. It then lists any contacts that match including bookmark shortcuts saved on the launcher, then apps that match, then gives the option to search Google, Wikipedia etc...

    It is intuitive for me. I can just type the first few character of an application then select and launch it really fast this way.

    I can also select a contact and hit the SMS icon next to their name and send a text really fast.

    Does Android allow this type of usage?
    Yes. If your phone has a search button on the phone hardware then you just hit that and the search window will come up (most phones have this). If not you can just use the search widget on the home screen and start typing. It will search for apps, contacts, and any other information that it has avaiable to it (mint.com transactions if you allow it, contact addresses, music, etc..)
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    Thanks, yes I already pre-ordered my Evo. I am just trying to learn as much as I can beforehand. I have yet to actually use an Android device, sad to say ii
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    The biggest thing to get used to coming from WebOS, IMO, is that you have to realize that multi-tasking on Android is automatic. You do not need to kill and manage tasks, the Android OS does it for you (and much better than you can).
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    The pre is laggy when its stock, but if you add the 800mhz patch it runs pretty smoothly. Ive had it on for months and never had an issue. Ill probably switch to the EVO unless an uber palm device is announced this summer. WebOS i think has the potential to be the best smart phone OS out there. Android would come in second for me though. I shouldn't even be talking cause ive never even used an android phone for more than 2 minutes.
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