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    Default Re: Llama - Who's Using It and Any Good Examples?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts View Post
    How?
    For instance I want my bt on and launch car app ultra when not connected to home wifi. Same when leaving work.

    When you set up profiles don't you have to do location?

    If you can help with this then I definitely won't go with tasker

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    For example, this could work:

    Condition:
    OR (Not conected to home wifi , not conected to work wifi) (so you don't necesarily have to put a location condition)

    Action:
    Bluetooth on
    Start your app

    But this will work as you want only if you are always connected to wifi when you are at home and at work.

    BR
  2. #52  

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    Does anyone have this problem?

    When the condition of a queued event are already true, the event doesn't trigger. If so, how do you solved it? I do it by delaying it, but i don't like it because the minimum delay is one minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    For example, this could work:

    Condition:
    OR (Not conected to home wifi , not conected to work wifi) (so you don't necesarily have to put a location condition)

    Action:
    Bluetooth on
    Start your app

    But this will work as you want only if you are always connected to wifi when you are at home and at work.

    BR
    I have a condition in there for Wi-Fi but it won't let me Deselect location it says if condition (matches all)

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  4. #54  

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts View Post
    I have a condition in there for Wi-Fi but it won't let me Deselect location it says if condition (matches all)

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    Hi:

    I don't understand your problem.

    Here are the screenshots of the event, sadly it is half spanish:
    The event:
    Llama - Who's Using It and Any Good Examples?-screenshot_2012-10-25-12-02-58.png
    The OR condition:
    Llama - Who's Using It and Any Good Examples?-screenshot_2012-10-25-12-03-13.png
    I put two random wifi networs.
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    I will post a screen shot when I reboot. LLama is FC'ing on me....
    so you didn't create a profile, just an event?
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    yes, just the event.
    Profiles are for managing system sound, ringtones, notifications sound, vibration, etc.
    And with an event you change the profiles you created usually accordint to locatiion, but not necessarily.
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    See that is my problem I guess.
    I have a profile called work.
    Then that triggers the event which has wifi on/off, BT, launch an app, etc.

    I will post shots soon....
    Thanks for the help.
  8. #58  

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyopaque View Post
    Leaving the house,gym or work, turn off WiFi, turn on Bluetooth for 1 minute to see if I'm in my car, if I am it connects, if I'm in a different vehicle, turns off. If I am connected to my car, Blue will turn off no matter where I am when I shut off my car.
    How exactly do you set this up? (ELI5)
  9. #59  

    Default Llamas wanted

    There are a couple of things I want, but have not been able to figure out how to ask Llama to do it. I am hoping someone here can help.

    Not allow phone call from {contact} if I am at {location}
    A related one - always allow call from {contact} if anywhere except {location}

    There should be a wiki of just the recipes somewhere.
  10. #60  

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoshoo View Post
    I am just trying to figure out how to terminate the action when the condition is no longer met (for some reason screen rotation remains turned on).
    I was having the same issue. Solved it by checking the "Allow retrigger" on the "OR" condition that turned screen rotation off. Not sure why - Llama possibly saw that one of the conditions was met and didn't finish the entire statement, so it never reached the action that turned the screen rotation off. But after a few restarts it seems to working just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitxitxita View Post
    There are a couple of things I want, but have not been able to figure out how to ask Llama to do it. I am hoping someone here can help.

    Not allow phone call from {contact} if I am at {location}
    A related one - always allow call from {contact} if anywhere except {location}

    There should be a wiki of just the recipes somewhere.
    I want this too. Tasker can do that but thanks to help on these forums I am sticking with llama.

    I haven't figured it out yet because I think it needs and if than type of function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradjones007 View Post
    I was having the same issue. Solved it by checking the "Allow retrigger" on the "OR" condition that turned screen rotation off. Not sure why - Llama possibly saw that one of the conditions was met and didn't finish the entire statement, so it never reached the action that turned the screen rotation off. But after a few restarts it seems to working just fine.
    Hi:

    I solved a similar issue by queueing an a event that turn off the rotation when the original conditions no longer met.
  13. #63  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitxitxita View Post
    How exactly do you set this up? (ELI5)
    Hi:
    First of all, Llama can't identify your car. You could "identify" it if you always connect it to a dock or something. And what do you mean by connecting in the car, to what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts View Post
    I want this too. Tasker can do that but thanks to help on these forums I am sticking with llama.

    I haven't figured it out yet because I think it needs and if than type of function.

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    Hi :

    what do you mean by not allowing a call, to block it or that the ring tone doesn't sound?
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    Hi:

    Does anyone knows how to do that a queued event stop waiting for the condition to be true when they are not?
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    TIL - Llama feature: "Share Llama events as URLs and click Llama URLs to import" KebabApps: Ooo, a social Llama That should make it easier to share our favorite recipes.
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    Great discussion everyone. I just got a smart phone 2 weeks ago and just downloaded Llama this weekend. My main concern is battery usage.

    1.) I have 4g on all the time except when I launch the programs that show the highest data usage (facebook, maps, gmail, google play, youtube, etc) - then it switches to wifi. When they close it goes back to 4g. That seemed to help me.

    2.) When it is plugged in (usually at night), it turns on wifi, changes the brightness, extends screen timeout, and enables account sync.

    Here's something maybe someone can help me out with. I work in a 9 story building and my office is in the basement (reception can be between 0-2 bars). I actually spend most of my day on floors 5-9 where the reception is just fine, but those 2 or so hours downstairs can run my battery down. There is wifi throughout the building with the same network ID so I can't use that to specify location. I'm trying to train using cell phone towers, but I wouldn't expect there to be a difference between the basement and the upper floors. I want Llama to recognize when I'm in the basement and am not an active user and turn airplane mode on for 5 minutes and then off for one minute to check for voicemail/text messages. Otherwise, when I am an active user, I want to the phone to be normal.

    Most of Llama is set up for differentiating horizontal locations, I'm trying to distinguish vertical locations. If I can figure it out I'll post it, but I'd love to hear ideas.

    Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokirasama View Post
    Hi:
    First of all, Llama can't identify your car. You could "identify" it if you always connect it to a dock or something. And what do you mean by connecting in the car, to what?
    Actually you can if you're connecting to Bluetooth. Many cars have Bluetooth built in. Bluetooth devices have a unique "signature" tells your phone that you're connected in your car.
    If the paired profile exists on the phone, you can set llama to use this as a condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradjones007 View Post
    I was having the same issue. Solved it by checking the "Allow retrigger" on the "OR" condition that turned screen rotation off. Not sure why - Llama possibly saw that one of the conditions was met and didn't finish the entire statement, so it never reached the action that turned the screen rotation off. But after a few restarts it seems to working just fine.

    Could you post a screen shot of what your settings look like, I stil cant make it work I am not sure why.
    Or a more detailed explanation.
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    Hi:

    One question, do you always spend the same hours in your office?
    If yes, you could setup llama to turn airplane on on those hours.

    Now, personally, I think that keepeing your data/wifi on all the time will drain your battery anyway at what you could save by been in your office will be meanless compared to that.

    What I do to save battery and still be connected, is to define a schedule for sincronizing to the network. Every 15 min normally for 1 minute, or every 5 min for 30 seconds in a peak schedule, in week days, and every 1 hour for 2 min, and 15 min for one minute, respectively in weekends. And according to location it will use wifi or data. Also, if i'm in a location with wifi the wifi will turn on when screen is unlocked.

    I hope this help you because i don't think you could identify vertical location, if it's not by wifi or bluetooh polling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckeeDroid View Post
    Actually you can if you're connecting to Bluetooth. Many cars have Bluetooth built in. Bluetooth devices have a unique "signature" tells your phone that you're connected in your car.
    If the paired profile exists on the phone, you can set llama to use this as a condition.

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    Hi:
    Sorry if i didn't explain myself very well, but that's what i meant.
    Thanks
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    Hey kurokirasama, thanks for taking a stab at my problem. The amount of hours and times I'm in my office varies unfortunately, but I found out Llama can indeed handle my situation. I'm in a hospital with several different Wifi networks (A, B, C, D...) that run throughout the building but each router has a different MAC address. You can have Llama add a MAC address instead of the SSID and it can differentiate between locations even when the SSID is throughout the building!

    Today I had it turn Airplane mode off for 7 minutes and then on for 1 and repeat when I was in the basement. That way I can see if I get a text or voicemail. Airplane mode shuts off when the screen is on and then waits 10 minutes after the screen shuts off to start again. I'm not sure if it's really saving me any battery. I'm using battery spy to try to see about that and also about using Wifi vs. 4g. I've read differing opinions. Some say 4g uses more, some say wifi does. I'm going to try to do a sync of some sort like the one you mentioned.
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    I am using a Bluetooth Device Connected (Car Audio) type connection but i cannot seem to get it to work 100% of the time, i am lucky if it works 25% of the time here it is.

    Conditions
    Bluetooth Device Connected - Car Audio (My car)

    Actions
    Change Music/Media Volume - 15/15 (this works 100% of the time)
    Run App Shortcut - My Music Playlist - Play All Songs (hardly ever works)

    I have also noticed that when i leave Llama and come back it changes the second action to what is listed below. I am not sure if this is a bug or an intended action.
    Media Player - Play/Pause

    The reason I am using the My Music on my phone is it is the only App i have found that allows for my car controls to have full control. Other apps I lose volume functions and on others I lose the skip/back features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbieandroiduser View Post
    Hey kurokirasama, thanks for taking a stab at my problem. The amount of hours and times I'm in my office varies unfortunately, but I found out Llama can indeed handle my situation. I'm in a hospital with several different Wifi networks (A, B, C, D...) that run throughout the building but each router has a different MAC address. You can have Llama add a MAC address instead of the SSID and it can differentiate between locations even when the SSID is throughout the building!

    Today I had it turn Airplane mode off for 7 minutes and then on for 1 and repeat when I was in the basement. That way I can see if I get a text or voicemail. Airplane mode shuts off when the screen is on and then waits 10 minutes after the screen shuts off to start again. I'm not sure if it's really saving me any battery. I'm using battery spy to try to see about that and also about using Wifi vs. 4g. I've read differing opinions. Some say 4g uses more, some say wifi does. I'm going to try to do a sync of some sort like the one you mentioned.
    yeah, Llama can do that too.
    About the battery issue, it doesn't matter if you keep wifi or data on, as long as you keep one of them on all the time, it will drain your battery much more that if you have some kind of sync schedule like the one i told you.

    By the way, do you know a way to have some kind of airplane mode but just for the wifi and data, not for the calls? I have a night event that turn off everything, but sometimes the playstore make its updates in the middle of the night anyway, and i don't want that.
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    Is anyone using the Android Location Polling as well? Just started playing with it, but it looks like you could use it in some scenarios to avoid some issues. For example, I would like to be able to "leave home" a few 100 m from the house, but instead I have to drive 5 mins to "leave home". I'm playing around with turning on non GPS location polling when I get near my home towers to more accurately identify "Home". You do have to download an additional Llama Location Polling app, and turn it on in the "Experimental" section. But it looks promising.

    Also, I noticed on the Dev's website, the latest version there has NFC tag support. Which would add an additional layer of possibilities. Thinking about trying that as well

    Great thread!
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