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  1. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Okay, so I've now put my beloved iPhone into carbonite freeze for 1 month while I give this Round Robin a whirl. First up for me is the G1. Is it the 'droid I've been looking for?

    [Edited for greater general appeal!]

    If you've got an Android phone, what makes it so great?

    What should I look for? What can I do?

    Can you recommend some must-have apps?

    And if you don't have an Android, what would you like me to show you?

    What comparisons would you like to see?

    Help me fellow Androidikas! You're my only hope!

    --
    Temporarily dispossessed from the iPhone Blog: iPhone News, Reviews, and Opinion

    Twitter / reneritchie

    This is an Official Round Robin Contest Thread. Replying in this thread automatically enters you for a chance to win a T-Mobile G1! Full Rules here
    11-14-2008 09:58 AM
  2. Jeremy's Avatar
    Hey... I know you I think...
    Try the following:
    apn:wap.cingular
    proxy blank
    port blank
    username:wap.cingulargps.com
    password:CINGULAR1 must be in caps
    server blank
    mmsc:mmsc.cingular.com
    mms proxy: blank
    mms port:80
    mcc:310
    mnc:41
    apn type blank
    Wanda, TBolt, mobrules and 7 others like this.
    11-14-2008 10:08 AM
  3. Jeremy's Avatar
    One more thing, you will not have MMS what so ever.
    11-14-2008 10:13 AM
  4. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    D'oh! Bad Ash is everywhere!

    Problem: I have a Rogers SIM, not AT&T, so I need Rogers APN info.

    Right now Android is not happy with me
    11-14-2008 10:13 AM
  5. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    I'm used to no MMS
    11-14-2008 10:14 AM
  6. Jeremy's Avatar
    Oh Snap! I totally forgot where you are. My bad....
    AppleBonker and goin_nil like this.
    11-14-2008 10:14 AM
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    11-14-2008 10:15 AM
  8. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Cool! That kinda works, but Android claims it can't read my phone number?

    I can still make and receive calls, though, so at least I'm functional now. Thanks Bad Ash!
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    11-14-2008 10:18 AM
  9. Jeremy's Avatar
    My pleasure.
    11-14-2008 10:19 AM
  10. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Okay, next task: Can I get my Exchange mail up and running? I'm guessing IMAP but not ActiveSync?
    11-14-2008 12:31 PM
  11. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Yikes! Trying to set up AIM in the IM client, put in my creds and get this back?!

    "Sorry, the phone number can not be read from your SIM code. Please contact your operator for help."

    What's my phone number have to do with this? Shared with SMS or something?

    Little help?
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    11-14-2008 12:54 PM
  12. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Got Exchange working via IMAP. Funny, I put in my creds and it auto-detected our sendmail server, so failed at first. I manually changed things to the Exchange addy, and it started working fine. Contacts are likely being pulled from Gmail, I think. (I use MobileMe for all contact management, but I think I have Google flagged in Address Book as well, which may be the transit point?)
    11-14-2008 01:15 PM
  13. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Er... Can has secondary/tertiary/etc. Gmail account? Can't find where to add multiple Googleness? Am I just missing something obvious?

    (Not always intuitive what's hidden where, esp. menu button)
    11-14-2008 01:46 PM
  14. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    I'm getting confused between the various input methods. Android will pop up fields in portrait mode with text input ready to go, but there doesn't seem to be a way to enter text without flipping open the hard keyboard. Is that so?

    If it is, usability would seem to dictate not activating input fields when text can't be input, or am I missing something?
    11-14-2008 03:36 PM
  15. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    BLARG! How do I take screenshots? Need them to rant and rave on the blog later.

    Any help?
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    11-14-2008 03:40 PM
  16. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Time to leave for the long commute home. Wanted to listen to SecurityNow podcast on the drive, so I hit the Market, found a podcatcher, and got ready to go download, but then got a warning saying I needed an SD card!

    Wow, completely forgot about that!
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    11-14-2008 04:20 PM
  17. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Gmail client is confusing the heck out of me. I accidentally deleted Crackberry Kevin's email, couldn't figure out how to undelete it (though I could unlabel it?), then succeeded only by spamming it, then couldn't unspam.

    Moving back to the inbox took a while to find, and what's touch vs. what's hidden behind the menu button is near impenetrable to me so far.

    Has anyone determined any conventions as to what does what? Any "rules" or an Android equivalent of Apple's Human Interface Guidelines?
    11-14-2008 07:39 PM
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    I've always found Google Contacts to be the weak link, the chink in the Gmail armor of goodness, and Android is quickly re-affirming that belief. Unlike Exchange and MobileMe, where I have very complete listings for all my baseline contacts, the Gmail contacts are polluted by addresses I guess Google chose to remember but without encapsulating information (i.e. tons of No Names to scroll through). To top it off, many contacts are missing numbers, or don't have properly identified numbers, making it almost impossible to use Contacts as a way to, well, contact people.

    Is there a better Contacts app available, third party maybe? Or some way to "clean" Google's truth store?

    (To make matters worse, iSync in now throwing up all over itself adding and removing contact info, and it looks like I'll have to waste a bunch of time hand preening my master list. Google -- Beta is bad enough, fix this pre-Alpha!)
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    11-14-2008 09:12 PM
  19. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Got a podcatcher installed but it's whining like horror-victim about the lack of microSD card in the slot and threatening to futz itself if I dare to try and download anything. Off to BestBuy I go...

    (Add onboard memory to the list of things I've learned to take for granted...)
    11-14-2008 10:56 PM
  20. Dieter Bohn's Avatar
    Yikes! Trying to set up AIM in the IM client, put in my creds and get this back?!

    "Sorry, the phone number can not be read from your SIM code. Please contact your operator for help."

    What's my phone number have to do with this? Shared with SMS or something?

    Little help?
    Likely the IM client is the same as OZ on Windows Mobile in that it is partially SMS based. In other words, it will only work on T-Mobile.

    Looks like it's time for you to go peruse the android market!
    mrro82, cole2kb, Sciman_SF and 3 others like this.
    11-15-2008 10:09 AM
  21. Dieter Bohn's Avatar
    Er... Can has secondary/tertiary/etc. Gmail account? Can't find where to add multiple Googleness? Am I just missing something obvious?

    (Not always intuitive what's hidden where, esp. menu button)
    You can't have multiple google accounts -- you'll have to set up IMAP in the email client. Annoying, but it works.
    11-15-2008 10:10 AM
  22. Dieter Bohn's Avatar
    Gmail client is confusing the heck out of me. I accidentally deleted Crackberry Kevin's email, couldn't figure out how to undelete it (though I could unlabel it?), then succeeded only by spamming it, then couldn't unspam.

    Moving back to the inbox took a while to find, and what's touch vs. what's hidden behind the menu button is near impenetrable to me so far.

    Has anyone determined any conventions as to what does what? Any "rules" or an Android equivalent of Apple's Human Interface Guidelines?
    LOL. Welcome to android, now in Beta, where the UI is different across each app.

    You may want to check out our article on gmail shortcuts...
    11-15-2008 10:11 AM
  23. Dieter Bohn's Avatar
    I've always found Google Contacts to be the weak link, the chink in the Gmail armor of goodness, and Android is quickly re-affirming that belief. Unlike Exchange and MobileMe, where I have very complete listings for all my baseline contacts, the Gmail contacts are polluted by addresses I guess Google chose to remember but without encapsulating information (i.e. tons of No Names to scroll through). To top it off, many contacts are missing numbers, or don't have properly identified numbers, making it almost impossible to use Contacts as a way to, well, contact people.

    Is there a better Contacts app available, third party maybe? Or some way to "clean" Google's truth store?

    (To make matters worse, iSync in now throwing up all over itself adding and removing contact info, and it looks like I'll have to waste a bunch of time hand preening my master list. Google -- Beta is bad enough, fix this pre-Alpha!)
    I'm not a fan of google contacts either, but once you give up being OCD with your contacts it's actually sort of nice -- you eventually just 'trust' it and let it be a little messy.

    As for "scrolling through contacts," the only people that I know who do that sort of thing are iPhone users. Everybody else uses the keyboard to autosearch.
    11-15-2008 10:13 AM
  24. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Likely the IM client is the same as OZ on Windows Mobile in that it is partially SMS based. In other words, it will only work on T-Mobile.

    Looks like it's time for you to go peruse the android market!
    Ah, the power of an open system Thanks much. Can anyone recommend a killer IM app? I use AIM the most, but have MM and gTalk as well.

    Funny gTalk isn't built in? Jabber should "just work"?
    11-15-2008 04:32 PM
  25. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    You can't have multiple google accounts -- you'll have to set up IMAP in the email client. Annoying, but it works.
    Interesting! I can't add additional Exchange accounts on the iPhone, but it seems to let me add additional MobileMe accounts, which kind of scares me, actually, as "sync is hard" and I don't see how multiple truth stores on MM would co-exist... though AS and MM seems to co-exist well enough...

    Setting up other Gmail as IMAP now...
    11-15-2008 04:35 PM
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