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    Default Anti virus. Do I need it?

    Do I need a app like Lookout or Advast? Some say yes some say no.

    Opinions please? If yes which one? Should I pay for it or is free one good enough?

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    I don't think so. In my experience I don't do anything extreme with my phone. I rarely side load apks. If you do that on a regular then perhaps an anti virus app would be beneficial.

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    The best antivirus is yourself; don't go to any strange sites, download apps from unknown sources, etc. I have never used an antivirus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mekano View Post
    Do I need a app like Lookout or Advast? Some say yes some say no.
    The people that say yes are for the most part those that want to sell you a Virus app

    As stated above YOU are the best virus protection. Side loading a free hot porn stars app is probably not a good idea.
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    It's a personal comfort level....if it helps you sleep easier then fine. All the reputable antivirus apps are available in a free version....Norton, AVG, AVAST, Lockout....
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    The only reason I would recommend one is for the free device trackers in it. E.g. avast with root install

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    Wow so newbie. Google provides free tracking and remote wipe, Google has a built app scanner, Google uses its bouncer to check apps in playstore. If you want to feel warm and fuzzy use a third party av app designed for a pc. Also a search I bet this number topic brought up. So many scared people. Alas
    http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-wha...le-to-malware/
    Contrary to what youve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware

    By Steven Max Patterson October 3, 2013
    Steven Max Patterson is a technology journalist and consultant to many software, electronics and renewable energy startups in Boston, San Francisco, and Europe.

    Until now, Google hasnt talked about malware on Android because it did not have the data or analytic platform to back its security claims. But that changed dramatically today when Googles Android Security chief Adrian Ludwig reported data showing that less than an estimated 0.001% of app installations on Android are able to evade the systems multi-layered defenses and cause harm to users. Android, built on an open innovation model, has quietly resisted the locked down, total control model spawned by decades of Windows malware. Ludwig spoke today at the Virus Bulletin conference in Berlin because he has the data to dispute the claims of pervasive Android malware threats.
    Ludwig sees security in biological terms:
    A walled garden systems approach blocking predators and disease breaks down when rapid growth and evolution creates too much complexity. Androids innovation from inside and outside Google are continuous, making it impossible to create such a walled garden by locking down Android at the device level.
    He stated Googles mission in defending against malware in terms more closely akin to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) than the PC security industry.
    The CDC knows that its not realistic to try to eradicate all disease. Rather, it monitors disease with scientific rigor, providing preventative guidance and effective responses to harmful outbreaks.
    The problem Google wants to solve is that most independent security researchers dont have access to a platform such as Googles to measure how many times a malware app has been installed. They are analogous to human disease researchers without a CDC to measure the size of a disease outbreak and coordinate a response. Security researchers are very good at finding and fixing malware, but in the absence of reliable data that indicate how frequently a malware app has been installed, the threat level can become exaggerated. Reports that reach publication are often extremely exaggerated. To emphasize this point, Ludwig revealed in his analysis that some of the most publicized recent malware discoveries are installed in less than one per million installations.
    A recent leaked report*(pdf) from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) found that most Android malware was installed via text message. Weve asked DHS to confirm its findings but have gotten no response at this time. This is what Ludwig had to say:
    An application that a user installs from a link within a text message would be included in these statistics [reported today in Berlin]. *Some of the short one to two day increases in ratio of installs per million apps can be attributed to text messaging or email spam campaigns.
    Contradicting these anecdotal reports, Ludwigs analysis indicates that Android malware is not as significant a threat as has often been reported. Ludwig suggests that combining Googles data driven approach with the research efforts of the industry will improve Androids malware defenses going forward.
    Googles security mechanisms have improved Androids malware defenses and provided Ludwig a platform for collecting and analyzing data from over 1.5 billion app installs. Google publicized its malware research results and explained its malware defense framework to invite industry review and broader participation.
    The new security mechanisms appeared about a year ago when new versions of Android started shipping with Verify Apps. Verify Apps intervenes when an app is downloaded, compares it to a large database of malware information curated by Google and warns the user if the app is potentially harmful. Verify Apps is also distributed to older Android versions by including it in updates to the Google Play app that is used to download apps from Googles app store. Checking and blocking apps is enabled by default requiring a user to choose to disable it in order to circumvent its protection.

    Using Verify Apps, Google collected this data outside of the protected perimeter of the Google Play app store from installations in the wild where the incidence of malware is higher. Based on the data from tracking over one and a half billion app installs Google obtained convincing evidence that the rate of potentially harmful apps installed is stable at about 1,200 per million app installs, or about 0.12%. The classification potentially harmful apps include both malware and false positive detections of malware. Often benign software apps have behaviors or characteristics resembling malware.

    Verify Apps tracks each incident when a potentially hazardous app is flagged, when the user is warned, and when the user chooses to ignore the warning and installs the app. Warnings are an effective deterrent to malware. Only 0.12% of users chose to ignore the warnings and install potentially hazardous apps.
    The research presented by Ludwig includes the classification of the types of threats that are represented in a sample of the 1,200 potentially harmful apps installed per million.
    Almost 40% are fraudware apps that drain the users smartphone account by making premium telephone calls or sending premium SMS messages.
    Another 40% classified as rooting apps are labeled as potentially harmful applications by Verify Apps, but they are not considered malicious. Smartphone hobbyists and developers frequently root their devices for many benign reasons such as installing custom Android versions like CyanogenMod or to remove carrier installed apps.
    About 15% of the apps flagged by Verify Apps are commercial spyware, a diverse set of monitoring apps that range from tracking internet behavior to improve advertising to the very malicious keyloggers that collect personal information entered by the user and report it to the malware creator. The 6% balance is a diverse set of mainly malicious apps.

    This framework for improving Androids malware defenses is an extension of the open innovation model that made Android successful. Publishing Android source code for public review has improved Android beyond even Googles resource limits by subjecting it to the review of independent software developers. An example of this is the National Security Agencys (NSA) research project to enhance Android security named SE-Android*(pdf), which has contributed research and software that was merged into recent releases of Android. Its an insightful example of the power of open innovation because much of the security technology came from another open source innovation project to enhance the security of Linux. Despite public suspicion about NSA surveillance, SE Android is not a surveillance risk because like Android it is completely open to public review.
    A locked down *approach has worked for Apple in protecting iOS from malware because it controls both hardware and software towards the goal of maximizing its profits. In contrast Google has used an open model to maximize Android market share in which it licenses Android for free and controls neither the hardware or software ultimately sold to the end customer. This model has allowed for rapid innovation that resulted in a large market share but has created the need for the open malware defense framework that Ludwig presented.
    Ludwig invited the industry to raise the bar from here using more and better data to analyze the threat to the user and respond with more effective measures. Coming from Google, this should be no surprise given its obsession with big data and analytics. Open innovation and open source has helped Android achieve market dominance. According to IDC, Android won 79% of the smartphone market share in the second quarter of 2013. Ludwig makes a convincing data driven case that Android is securenow well see whether Google can make similar gains in Android security that it has made in market share.*

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mekano View Post
    Do I need a app like Lookout or Advast? Some say yes some say no.

    Opinions please? If yes which one? Should I pay for it or is free one good enough?

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    Free versions are good enough, the paid versions only add extra features like tracking or remote wipe and such... As to whether you "need" one - it's up to you to decide. If you only download apps from Google Play - you have less chance of getting some spyware or other malware, HOWEVER you still have a chance of getting one even from Google's own store. I'd say try it out - good antivirus apps take very little system resources, same goes for battery life. If you won't like it - you can always uninstall it.
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    I got wacked by a virus on my ACL on my HP Touchpad. It got on via Openmobile or a bogus Amazon app store.

    Trust no one. If you feel you need one, get it from a company that offers a free version. If they don't, then they are a scam.

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    The only antivirus anyone needs on their phone is called Common Sense. Unfortunately, it's not as ubiquitous as it should be.
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    If you know nothing about operating systems, files, executables, permissions and such things then yes, I'd recommend you install an AV...
    Now, if you know what you are doing, and do not install an app that requires strange permissions on your phone, then no, you do not need anything else...
    The same goes with web browsing...
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    I have on all my Android device my Nexus 7&5 just to be safe but if you download apps from the play store and keep it safe you should be fine. but if you want to download one it won't hurt
    MacBookPro, iPad, iPod. My go to device are Nexus5 and Nexus 7(2013).
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    Actually not quite true. Some av apps can cause system lag, use extra battery etc. But if it makes u feel warm n fuzzy then that is all that matters.
    Quote Originally Posted by NexusNick123 View Post
    I have on all my Android device my Nexus 7&5 just to be safe but if you download apps from the play store and keep it safe you should be fine. but if you want to download one it won't hurt


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    Thanks everyone for your opinions. Think I'm gonna stay AV free for now, unless I see/feel I need one

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkHirt View Post
    The people that say yes are for the most part those that want to sell you a Virus app
    I agree. I've not seem much if any evidence of viruses on Android being a problem except from antivirus companies.
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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    I have a handy flowchart for this!
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    I have a handy flowchart for this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tortex73 View Post
    The only antivirus anyone needs on their phone is called Common Sense. Unfortunately, it's not as ubiquitous as it should be.
    Can't help but agree.

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    Default Re: Anti virus. Do I need it?

    TL; DR. The short answer is no. Lol.

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    The most important thing good security software does on Android is let you know if the software your installing has links to sites that are known for stealing information, what its really using those permissions for and whether that link you clicked is going to take you someplace that could be regrettable, all things that use little to no resources on your device and all problems that are regrettably common on all operating systems. Its amazing the things that seemingly legitimate programs from reputable companies on the Play Store do so they can sell your information yet no one calls them out on it. Though it is true that the chances of getting and actual virus on your device if using the Play Store are vanishingly small, it is only the smallest part of what reputable security software does. Active scanning for things like viruses is not necessary on sand boxed OS's like Android but they are not the real threat for most people. What good software does is keep you from installing apps that you are giving free permission to steal your information thereby defeating the sand box and keeping you away from dangerous sites you may not know are dangerous. What the good ones do is remind you to be mindful of your own security. In a perfect world everyone would read every permission for every app they download. In the real world how many people really do that and even if they do, how do they know what web sites any given program is affiliated with? Extra security done in a reasonable manner is never a bad idea no matter what os. The best ones on Android are mostly free.

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    Being a current student in the IT field, I would say yes. Last school year a person who formally worked for the FBI as a network security head came to my school and gave a speech on mobile protection. What he said is you should definitely have an anti-virus on your android phone as mobile malware is a growing "field." He also said despite what people think, iPhones are NOT immune from malware. When my IT instructor did a mobile device unit, he said you should have several things "enabled" for the most security on your mobile device. A strong password, a backup program, an anti-theft/lost phone program, and for Android, an anti-virus. You do not have to BUY anti-virus/backup programs/anti-theft/ whatever for your phone. I use CM Security, ranked high by AV-Test.org. It is free, it not only scans for viruses, it also enables fixes for OS vulnerabilities. Cheetah Mobile, who makes CM Security has several other security apps. Including a free safe web browse, which protects you from online threats. In a nutshell the modern IT world recommends that you DO use anti-virus. But again, you do NOT have to pay for good mobile security.

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