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    Talking What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Ok so i used to have a iphone 4S. until last week where i sold it on craigslist regret the price as it was mint and had it for 2 years. (125$)

    And i used to "jailbreak" it.

    But i got a galaxy nexus on ebay for 140$ 2 days ago. and i was like am gonna root it.

    And i saw all these wried things with boot and recovery and some stuff i never heard about. what is root? what is recovery? what is rom?

    I though it was like evasion for iphone where you just click? and its jailbroken??

    So i found cyanogenmod installer. ran it and got android 4.4.4 kitkat. is my device jailbroken now? or root or rom or recovery? and some cyanogenmod Things. and what things should i do now its my first android so i dont know what i should do now? help thx
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    Hi Slashyou, and welcome to the world of Android!

    First of all, let's get the simple stuff out of the way.
    Recovery Mode: It's a mode all phones can enter before loading up the OS (at boot) and meant as an Emergency system where you can reset your device and load up either a certified system image or a factory one, which is preloaded in your phone. Unless you have root, in which case you can do so much more.

    Root: This is essentially like jailbreaking on the iOS world. You gain access to the lowest system level, which can be a bliss since you can customize your phone even further, but can also be a risk. You now can write, and delete, stuff at will. You CAN screw things up and leave your phone in an unusable state if you delete the wrong file.

    ROM: It's a custom system image for your phone. Android, as you may know, is Open Source and everyone can tinker with the code, adding stuff, removing stuff, making new UIs, etc. Think of how Android is still the same underneath, but a Samsung phone looks different and has different features than an HTC one; each phone has its own ROM. Developers can choose the device they're using and develop modified version of that system, thus, creating new ROMs for you to use.

    Good so far? Great!

    Now, unlike iOS, most of the stuff you get by jailbreaking its already there in Android without modifications. That's the beauty of it: Customization. But, if you like to further things, you can root your phone to install apps or modifications that give you some advanced features (for example, on a Note 3, the stock system only allows you to have a few select apps in MultiWindow mode. With root and a special modification, you can use any app in your phone in this way). So before doing anything like that to your phone, think about whether you NEED to or not. Again, most of the cool stuff you can do with Android, you can do without root.

    Cyanogenmod is just a custom ROM, but they've tried to make things as easy as possible for you to install, so chances are, if you already have it installed, you're already rooted. The Nexus family are some of the most tinker-friendly phones out there, and basically you just need to root to gain access to everything else.

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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Hi Slashyou, and welcome to the world of Android!

    First of all, let's get the simple stuff out of the way.
    Recovery Mode: It's a mode all phones can enter before loading up the OS (at boot) and meant as an Emergency system where you can reset your device and load up either a certified system image or a factory one, which is preloaded in your phone. Unless you have root, in which case you can do so much more.

    Root: This is essentially like jailbreaking on the iOS world. You gain access to the lowest system level, which can be a bliss since you can customize your phone even further, but can also be a risk. You now can write, and delete, stuff at will. You CAN screw things up and leave your phone in an unusable state if you delete the wrong file.

    ROM: It's a custom system image for your phone. Android, as you may know, is Open Source and everyone can tinker with the code, adding stuff, removing stuff, making new UIs, etc. Think of how Android is still the same underneath, but a Samsung phone looks different and has different features than an HTC one; each phone has its own ROM. Developers can choose the device they're using and develop modified version of that system, thus, creating new ROMs for you to use.

    Good so far? Great!

    Now, unlike iOS, most of the stuff you get by jailbreaking its already there in Android without modifications. That's the beauty of it: Customization. But, if you like to further things, you can root your phone to install apps or modifications that give you some advanced features (for example, on a Note 3, the stock system only allows you to have a few select apps in MultiWindow mode. With root and a special modification, you can use any app in your phone in this way). So before doing anything like that to your phone, think about whether you NEED to or not. Again, most of the cool stuff you can do with Android, you can do without root.

    Cyanogenmod is just a custom ROM, but they've tried to make things as easy as possible for you to install, so chances are, if you already have it installed, you're already rooted. The Nexus family are some of the most tinker-friendly phones out there, and basically you just need to root to gain access to everything else.
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    Award #2 for the best answers this week goes to @SpookDroid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Madd54 View Post
    Award #2 for the best answers this week goes to @SpookDroid.



    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Pro
    Thank you Should I give a speech? Hehehe. Who got #1? It was Meryl, wasn't she?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookDroid View Post
    Thank you Should I give a speech? Hehehe. Who got #1? It was Meryl, wasn't she?!
    @lizardchest beat you by 5 minutes.
    Samsung Galaxy S3 BLACK screen/not working?! Sound working ok....

    Have to find Meryl now.

    You can make a speech but then you're buying the drinks.

    (there's a lot of us btw!)

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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    So does the "Launchers" and file managers work without root?


    And Does the good "CyanogenMod installer" work with any rom?
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    You guys seem very helpful and friendly here
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    Launchers and File Managers do work without root. SOME launchers do require root for some features, but most of them don't. File Managers will also require root if you want full access to SD card, thanks to the new security features and SD Card limitations imposed on Android KitKat. But if you just want to browse and write 'safe' stuff, you can do without root.

    I don't think the CyanogenMod installer works with other ROMs (especially now that Cyanogen has gone commercial), but I could be wrong.
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Oh ok and i had to turn on root in settings. under Developer options

    "Root access" Apps and ADB

    And root checker says that i have root now but is it full root?

    And what is ROM manager?

    Any root apps you recommend?
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Still learning the power of android
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    And can you download widgets?
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Widgets are usually a part of the app you download, but there are also 'standalone' widgets that add functionality or connect to other apps (like calendars, for instance). The safest place to find these is the Play Store, but you can also find good deals on the Amazon Android store (personally I use that one because they have a different paid app for free every day. Just this weekend they have 30 apps gone free, and some of them are actually useful).

    The ROM Manager is just that, a way to manage the ROMs you have installed or downloaded. If Root checker says you're rooted, then you're fully rooted and good to go. Now be careful on what you modify, especially if it means rewriting system files or deleting stuff from hidden folders.

    I wish I could give you pointers to cool root apps, but since I'm happy with the way things are with my phone and don't want to void my Warranty, I'm not rooted
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    What kinda phone do you have ?

    Anyway i,ll be carefull in file manager and amazon free app notifer and amazon are downloading on my little galaxy nexus

    And i installed google now launcher it is pretty nice
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    BTW you are really helpful
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    i,ll guess your phone is a note 3


    And is there an DFU mode in android so if it bricks you can always restore like iphone?
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashyou View Post
    Still learning the power of android
    To aid Spook a little, here is some reading for you:

    New to Android?: [GUIDE] Getting Started with Android (2014)

    [Guide] [Info] Custom recoveries versus Stock. Is there a difference?
    [GUIDE] ROM and Kernel definitions
    [Guide] [Supplemental] How to flash in Custom Recovery (Clockwork Mod)
    [Guide] How to use your Custom Recovery

    Other things that may be of interest..
    Google Now: [GUIDE] Google Now
    Nova Launcher (my personal favorite): [GUIDE] Nova Launcher

    Phone Timeline
    'If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change.' - Mahatma Gandhi
    Community Guidelines and also here
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    Thx as well
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Loving everything about this thread
    "The worst foe lies within the self....."
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    What do you love the most ?
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashyou View Post
    What do you love the most ?
    The helpfulness
    "The worst foe lies within the self....."
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Yea its nice
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    Chocolate cake with fresh cream. Thanks for asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madd54 View Post
    Chocolate cake with fresh cream. Thanks for asking.
    You......you....you...MADE ME HUNGRY YOU OWN ME A CHOCOLATE CAKE WITH FRESH CREAM NOW! ;(
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashyou View Post
    And can you download widgets?
    There are some stand alone widgets in Play, but many apps come with them. You can access widgets in one of two ways: Open the app drawer, and there should be a tab at the top that says widgets. Or(on Google Now laucher), you can long press any open section of the screen and select widgets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashyou View Post
    And is there an DFU mode in android so if it bricks you can always restore like iphone?
    In the custom recovery guide, how to do a Nandroid (backup) is covered. This is always a good thing to do as recovery partitions of the OS are semi-difficult to mess up, and if you have a Nandroid, that can save you from many bad things that can happen when flashing ROMs.

    Phone Timeline
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    Community Guidelines and also here
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    Default Re: What is recovery? and root Help am a noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    There are some stand alone widgets in Play, but many apps come with them. You can access widgets in one of two ways: Open the app drawer, and there should be a tab at the top that says widgets. Or(on Google Now loaucher), you can long press any open section of the screen and select widgets.



    In the custom recovery guide, how to do a Nandroid (backup) is covered. This is always a good thing to do as recovery partitions of the OS are semi-difficult to mess up, and if you have a Nandroid, that can save you from many bad things that can happen when flashing ROMs.

    How to i get a nandroid and how to access recovery mode? do i need to be bricked for it or what?
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