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    Just got this update and was wondering if anyone else had or had noticed any changes?

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    Just checked; my tablet did not find an update.

    I hope the update makes Chrome & the default browser less laggy. Please let us know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    Just checked; my tablet did not find an update.

    I hope the update makes Chrome & the default browser less laggy. Please let us know.
    I got that update about a month ago and - sorry - it doesn't improve the browser performance. At least not by much...
    I finally got so fed up, especially after reading over and over what this tablet is capable of with a custom ROM over on the XDA forum, that I took the plunge, waved the warranty good bye, unlocked and flashed CleanROM Inheritance.
    Best decision I made since I bought this baby. The difference is just un**** believable!
    The TF700 on stock ROM is like a Porsche forced to run on 4 cylinders and never above 2nd gear. Sad - but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berndlb View Post
    unlocked and flashed CleanROM Inheritance.
    Best decision I made since I bought this baby. The difference is just un**** believable!


    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
    Thank you for the recommendation! I will give that ROM a serious look. Would you mind linking us to the root method you used for your TF700T? Hopefully, it's something safe.

    Thank you again!

    Edit: XDA . YouTube .
    Last edited by TBolt; 02-10-2013 at 06:48 AM. Reason: added info
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    berndlb,

    do you use a keyboard dock with your Transformer? i just want to make sure the dock works without any problems with that ROM.

    thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    berndlb,

    do you use a keyboard dock with your Transformer? i just want to make sure the dock works without any problems with that ROM.

    thank you!
    Yes! Very good. You found the developers thread and the YouTube video by saugstauber also is very helpful.
    Check out these threads too:



    Yes, I use the keyboard a lot and for me everything works without a hitch or problem.
    If you read through these threads on XDA you will find lots of posts where people did run into problems, but IMHO, formed by following these threads religiously for a month or so, you can avoid 99.9% of all the pitfalls by doing your homework.
    sbdag's (the developer of CleanRom Inheritance or CROMI) thread is now 251 pages long. Read all or most of it! Seriously! Read, read, read, and when you think you got it, read again.
    The all-in-one guide I linked to above is a little more manageable and probably has the most comprehensive step-by-step instructions anywhere.

    I read for about 2 weeks, planned this like a campaign or kitchen renovation and did not touch anything until I felt confident that I had internalized every single step.
    After all that I was almost embarrassed how easy the actual process turned out to be. The thing is: It's safe and easy if you know what you are doing.

    Believe me! I was very nervous and hesitant going this route! I have a fairly good understanding of technical stuff, enjoy playing around with my smartphone etc, but I'm not a hacker and only have a general understanding of things Android. Although - I know a whole lot more now than a few weeks ago.

    What confused me when I read the threads, watched the video, followed recommended links from each: saugstaubers method is just a little different from the one described in the All-In-One guide, and if you keep reading, you may find instructions again just a little different than you have read before. Takes a while to sort that out.

    Hoping it will save you some time, here's a summary of what I have learned, BUT YOU HAVE TO RESEARCH EACH STEP YOURSELF!

    You have to be on JB 4.1.1 with the latest firmware 10.4.4.25
    You do not need to root your tablet because CROMI comes rooted out of the box so to speak.
    Get your "tools" together. You need
    The Unlock Tool from Asus (described and linked in the All-In-One)
    An ADB tool to "push" a custom recovery to your tablet through USB
    The recovery: Either TWRP or ClockworkMod recovery. Most people seem to prefer TWRP (I do) because it's easier to use. If you go for TWRP make sure you get version 2.3.1 or 2.3.3, NOT the latest versions (2.4...), those seem to be buggy. I have 2.3.1 and it works great
    CleanROM Inheritance 3.2.2, the latest and greatest version of this incredible ROM. You'll have to choose between the ODEX or DEODEX versions and there's a whole discussion on that in one of the two threads. As far as I can tell it does not matter which one you flash. The ODEX may be just a tiny bit faster, a tiny bit stabler than the DEODEX, but either will make you a much happier TF700 owner

    The ROM itself is safe IMO. sbdags basically did Asus' job by taking the Asus stock rom and polishing and improving it. CROMI is how the stock rom SHOULD have been.
    One more thing: A major reason I decided to go with CROMI is that it's possibly the best supported ROM out there. sbdags is on that forum ALL THE TIME and he gets supported by a few quality people with a seemingly unlimited supply of patience to answer questions and sort out problems.
    If I can help out any more, ask away.
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    Fabulous post, berndlb! Thank you for the insight.

    The only thing holding me back is the idea that ASUS may make significant improvements in their release of JB 4.2. So, I'm wondering if I ought to wait, give ASUS a chance to fix this; then, root if ASUS screws up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    Fabulous post, berndlb! Thank you for the insight.

    The only thing holding me back is the idea that ASUS may make significant improvements in their release of JB 4.2. So, I'm wondering if I ought to wait, give ASUS a chance to fix this; then, root if ASUS screws up again.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    The only thing holding me back is the idea that ASUS may make significant improvements in their release of JB 4.2.
    Has Asus even announced that they'll push JB 4.2?

    If they do, I hope they'll do split screen like the Galaxy Note 2 which runs 4.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splitz View Post
    Has Asus even announced that they'll push JB 4.2?

    If they do, I hope they'll do split screen like the Galaxy Note 2 which runs 4.2.
    At this point, not officially. But, ASUS is not HTC (fortunately!). I would be surprised if their highest level Transformer didn't get the update.

    Whether it will be worth the wait, that's anyone's guess.
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    [QUOTE=TBolt;2579061]Fabulous post, berndlb! Thank you for the insight.

    I hear you TBolt. But at this point I am glad that I cannot receive OTA updates from Asus anymore. I don't want them to screw up my beautiful tablet!
    If you have an hour to kill check out the Nexus 7 forum and read about their experience with the 4.2 update. Not very encouraging.
    I rather wait until the devs get their hands on 4.2 and clean it up just as they did with 4.1 and every other release of Android. sbdags already seems to be monkeying around with the 4.2 for Nexus 10, trying to port it to our tablet. So that is just a matter of time....

    In the meantime I am so happy with what I got here, that I was reluctant to even flash the latest version of CleanROM. Did it anyway and now I'm even happier!

    But I definitely don't want to talk you into anything. Your strategy is good. Wait for the release of 4.2 and make the decision then.
    That gives you plenty of time to read up on the how-to of flashing a new rom, which btw is different from rooting your device. Root is better than non-root because you can install apps that will improve the tablet's performance (like Browser2Ram), but you're still on the stock rom.

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    Huh?
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    berndlb,

    before you rooted, did you ever notice the line that momentarily flashes across the screen when using either the stock browser or Chrome? if so, does your tablet still have that problem (minor annoyance really) now that you're rooted?

    i likely won't wait for ASUS to update -- every time I fire up my web browser & see the lagging (or, when the tablet stops responding in Supernote), i grow more tired of the lag.

    actually, how about lag in the browser & in Supernote ... do you experience any of that now that you're rooted?

    thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    berndlb,

    before you rooted, did you ever notice the line that momentarily flashes across the screen when using either the stock browser or Chrome? if so, does your tablet still have that problem (minor annoyance really) now that you're rooted?

    i likely won't wait for ASUS to update -- every time I fire up my web browser & see the lagging (or, when the tablet stops responding in Supernote), i grow more tired of the lag.

    actually, how about lag in the browser & in Supernote ... do you experience any of that now that you're rooted?

    thank you!
    The flashing line is very likely hardware related - at least as far as I could pin this down so far. Something to do with the nvidia chip - I'm not sure. But yes, I still have that even after flashing a custom rom. Which is not surprising, since CROMI is basically an improved version of the original rom - it cannot improve the hardware in this tab.
    But I agree, that's very minor. I hardly notice it anymore.

    As for lag in the browser: Non-existing!!! In stock or Chrome.
    The first time I fired up the browser after flashing the new rom - and I went straight to a web page heavily loaded with pics and flash - I just laughed out loud. The difference is unbelievable....
    I do not use Supernote since I installed 7Note - can't tell you anything there. But since everything is faster and snappier: opening apps, switching between them, I would be very surprised if that didn't improve too.

    No offense intended, my friend, but I think you have a lot of reading to do. You keep referring to me as "being rooted". I am rooted BECAUSE I flashed (installed) a custom ROM.
    The improvement in performance is not because of gaining root, it's because I installed a different operating system (custom ROM).
    To gain root is fairly easy, REVERSIBLE, and you do not automatically loose your warranty. It enables you to install apps like Browser2Ram which most likely would also improve your browser performance. If that's what you are after, maybe you want to just root your device.

    To install a custom rom, you have to unlock the bootloader, and that voids your warranty forever. Basically: As long as the bootloader is locked you can count on Asus for help with problems. Once you unlock it, you're on you own and rely on advice and help from the forums. There is no way to re-lock the bootloader. Meaning: There is no way back!

    Just today I read a thread of someone who unlocked the bootloader just for the heck of it, never even flashed a custom rom, and then tried to do a factory reset which you should not attempt unlocked. With a few more complications thrown in that guy sold his Transformer for parts - he bricked it. Do not let that happen to you!

    Do your homework! Ask if you're not sure!
    But still - it's worth it.

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    lol. In every conversation I've had over the last several years, 'being rooted' is generally accepted for easy conversation -- everyone understanding that your device is no longer stock at some level. Yes, we could nit-pick (no offense meant, either) about the exact state of your hacking (unlocked, rooted, flashed), but that makes this conversation more convoluted, imho. I appreciate your detailed responses; so, I had no reason to say anything.

    Thinking back to my DInc days, we had to unlock, root, backup if you were smart; then, finally flash. I understand that the dev of CleanROM took care of one of the steps for you -- convenient.

    I am a bit disappointed that the line flashing across the screen isn't fixed. Before I roo... ahem... unlock & flash CleanROM, I am going to contact ASUS and see what they're solution to the flashing screen is. Maybe they'll offer to replace the tablet with a later production unit with the conflict resolved.

    Thanks again, bud.
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    Oh, berndlb, I forgot to ask ... which kernel & DPI setting did you choose while flashing CleanROM? Have you experimented with other options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    Oh, berndlb, I forgot to ask ... which kernel & DPI setting did you choose while flashing CleanROM? Have you experimented with other options?
    I have not experimented much. I am still careful - mindful that there is always a 1% chance of some unexpected problem. Some may call me timid
    I chose _that stock kernel and 240 dpi and did disable fsync on the latest flash. Don't know if it was disabling fsync or the latest version of CROMI, but the tab seems even smoother now.
    Some apps, Asus Library for example need 240 dpi to function properly. I try to avoid conflicts, so I stay as close to stock as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    lol.

    I am a bit disappointed that the line flashing across the screen isn't fixed. Before I roo... ahem... unlock & flash CleanROM, I am going to contact ASUS and see what they're solution to the flashing screen is. Maybe they'll offer to replace the tablet with a later production unit with the conflict resolved.

    Thanks again, bud.
    Well as it happens, this just came up in the CROMI thread, page 254


    If you find an explanation, do let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    lol. In every conversation I've had over the last several years, 'being rooted' is generally accepted for easy conversation -- everyone understanding that your device is no longer stock at some level. Yes, we could nit-pick (no offense meant, either) about the exact state of your hacking (unlocked, rooted, flashed), but that makes this conversation more convoluted, imho. I appreciate your detailed responses; so, I had no reason to say anything.

    Thinking back to my DInc days, we had to unlock, root, backup if you were smart; then, finally flash. I understand that the dev of CleanROM took care of one of the steps for you -- convenient.

    I am a bit disappointed that the line flashing across the screen isn't fixed. Before I roo... ahem... unlock & flash CleanROM, I am going to contact ASUS and see what they're solution to the flashing screen is. Maybe they'll offer to replace the tablet with a later production unit with the conflict resolved.

    Thanks again, bud.
    I hope you don't take me for a stickler now (although I probably am) Didn't mean to sound condescending!
    I'm just thinking of my early days when I started to browse the forums, trying to understand the lingo, and was endlessly confused because some people called X=X, others called X=Y, and just when I thought I understood something, another post made me question that again. Just trying to be precise....
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    Quote Originally Posted by berndlb View Post
    I hope you don't take me for a stickler now (although I probably am) Didn't mean to sound condescending!
    I'm just thinking of my early days when I started to browse the forums, trying to understand the lingo, and was endlessly confused because some people called X=X, others called X=Y, and just when I thought I understood something, another post made me question that again. Just trying to be precise....
    O no ... we're cool, bud. I know that, some day, this thread will appear in a Google search, and your detailed answers will be helping someone out big time (including me and other lurkers here).

    If you were refering to the / post by 'butcherbird', that's actually me. The handle (TBolt) I've used for 10 years was taken.

    The lag is killing me this AM. This week ... I'm doing something. Custom ROM or exchange for NEXUS 10 Correction: eligible for exchange only & Office Depot only has the Sammy GNote in 32GB. Just gotta do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    O no ... we're cool, bud. I know that, some day, this thread will appear in a Google search, and your detailed answers will be helping someone out big time (including me and other lurkers here).

    If you were refering to the / post by 'butcherbird', that's actually me. The handle (TBolt) I've used for 10 years was taken.

    The lag is killing me this AM. This week ... I'm doing something. Custom ROM or exchange for NEXUS 10 Correction: eligible for exchange only & Office Depot only has the Sammy GNote in 32GB. Just gotta do something.
    A friend of mine has a Nexus 10 and he's jealous of my TF700 now
    And think about the storage you get on this baby! 64gb micro, 64gb SD, connect an external hard drive via USB - man, you never run out of storage!
    Don't know much about the Sammy so I don't know how to discourage you from trading in :what:
    But I don't think I have to anyway. Saw your post on XDA. 98%? Good enough, Go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by berndlb View Post
    A friend of mine has a Nexus 10 and he's jealous of my TF700 now
    And think about the storage you get on this baby! 64gb micro, 64gb SD, connect an external hard drive via USB - man, you never run out of storage!
    Don't know much about the Sammy so I don't know how to discourage you from trading in :what:
    But I don't think I have to anyway. Saw your post on XDA. 98%? Good enough, Go for it!

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    The form factor is what pushed me towards this, my 2nd Transformer. It is a solid netbook with the keyboard dock - more stable than other tablets with keyboard cases, IMO.

    You don't have problems installing new apps from the Play store, do you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TBolt View Post
    The form factor is what pushed me towards this, my 2nd Transformer. It is a solid netbook with the keyboard dock - more stable than other tablets with keyboard cases, IMO.

    You don't have problems installing new apps from the Play store, do you?



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    We've effectively turned this thread into our private chat room, haven't we?

    I just flashed CROMI 3.3 and have been testing the basic things: keyboard, SD, micro, USB, HDMI.... so far everything is hunky dory. No problems with Play Store either, just downloaded the Fandango tablet app - nice!
    This time I did not disable fsync and cannot say that I notice a decrease in speed at all, so I think I will leave it enabled for the time being...

    But the flashing line is still there - no change. Watched that galaxy note vs Tansformer review you mentioned. Looks good too! And the permanent lines on the TF700 are downright scary.
    Really liked the option of running some apps side by side. I'm using a couple of floating apps, HoverNote and floating browser, but somehow they always get in the way since you cannot resize the "window" the main app is running in.
    Getting closer to a decision?

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    Tbolt, just stumbled on this thread where buhohitr practically takes someone by the hand and walks him through the process.
    Only thing he forgot to tell him was to make a backup of the stock system in TWRP before flashing the new ROM

    starts on page 4 but the OP is not bad either, if a little confusing....



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    Sweet ... Thank you, berndblb! I will come back to it on Friday. Am halfway through the 2 busiest days of my week - just dead exhausted. ZzzZzzzZz

    Today was the last day I could exchange my tablet; I let it go in favor of keeping the TF700.

    Thank you for your report on 3.3! I am glad it's a good upgrade.

    Our threads in the Rezound forum often become chat sessions - normal stuff for me. hehehe

    I'll be in touch soon. Good night, bud! Thanks again.


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