10-11-2011 07:16 PM
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  1. 2defmouze's Avatar
    Another android noobie Q...

    Been doing some research the last day or so on the custom launchers available. Seems the "big 3" or whatever are ADW, Launcher Pro, and Go Launcher and all look pretty interesting.

    Anyway main and simple question is, with these options available, which don't require root or anything, and AFAIK seem to negate all the things people hate about moto's blur... why doesn't everyone just use one these launchers, and why hate on blur that much if you don't have to use it? Something I don't know, such as too much instability within them? Everything I've read seems to say that they're all pretty stable, smooth and reliable..?

    Secondary question: When you get the bionic will you be using a launcher and if so which one? Want to throw in some details of why you prefer it over the other options that would be welcome also.

    For myself I see no reason not to try everything. Maybe stay with the stock blur a couple days, then spend a couple days or so each with the custom launchers available and decide which works best for me.

    Thanks in advance for the responses / advice.
    08-30-2011 12:12 PM
  2. mjforte's Avatar
    Well the reason people used to complain about Blur was because it USED to be slow and laggy. With the new Blur on the Droid 3 and Bionic the stock launcher is much improved. Me personally, I like either Go Launcher EX or LauncherPro because they offer a bit more customization that the stock launcher won't offer. I say try the stock launcher out for a while and if you don't like it, then try the different 3rd party launchers. None of the launchers require root either.
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    08-30-2011 12:17 PM
  3. spectre1006's Avatar
    I'm a big fan of adw launcher... Shortcuts, gestures, skins, backup and restore settings. It has it all and the ex version(paid) has more options.
    08-30-2011 12:21 PM
  4. p08757's Avatar
    I'm not a big fan of launchers. I'm going stock with my Bionic and going to rock the new blur, or what ever they are calling it now.

    To each thier own...
    08-30-2011 12:40 PM
  5. Fable's Avatar
    You will probably get a some very different responses as this one progresses. I myself prefer (and I even paid for and I haven't done that a lot in the last 2 years of Droid ownership) Launcher Pro. That said when I unrooted my Droid X to get it ready for sale, I left it stock. As you say I recommend you try them all and see what you like best.

    In the end I think folks look at Touchwiz and Blur as where they came from and not where they are headed. GUI overlays are great, but typically the 3rd party developed home replacements get alot more updates and can take the best parts from different phone manufacturers.

    This might be a good way to show you why people like/disklike locked/unlocked/stock/non-stock:
    Blur - Bloatware can't be removed but you can make groups and show only the stuff you want to see.

    LP+ - using the same kind of thought process you can just click what you don't want to see and it removes it for you from your cabinets (its a little more of a pain to get it back though, but its all relative)

    Root (throwing this in there because it is the next step in the hey how can i control more customization)- Basically gives you a higher degree of control over your experience, allows you to remove the bloat.. but that being said.. Super User is Super User.. mess something up and brick experiences can stressful (I should know I bricked my DX hard before being able to restore via like my 12th SBF).

    For me, LP+ gave me less lag on my OG Droid and I just kinda migrated with it over to my Droid X. Playing around with the X without it recently, its not that much different than the LP+ GUI, but it does take a different approach to how it gets there.

    Most if not all replacements have freebee trials that you can get weeks of enjoyment out of.. so definately give each a shake. I think you will find that the D3/Bionic GUI is pretty good though.
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    08-30-2011 12:45 PM
  6. 2defmouze's Avatar
    I'm not a big fan of launchers. I'm going stock with my Bionic and going to rock the new blur, or what ever they are calling it now.

    To each thier own...
    Interested to know why this is.. as they apparently give you generally better speed and customization options... have you had any bad experiences with any specific ones you could enlighten me with? I'd like to gather as much information as the community offers..
    08-30-2011 12:48 PM
  7. 2defmouze's Avatar
    FYI I'm reading and liking all the contributions I'm already getting here and looking forward to more... going to try to limit my own responses to when something someone says leaves me with a follow-up question or I'd like to pick their brain harder
    08-30-2011 12:54 PM
  8. ChevyNovaLN's Avatar
    FYI I'm reading and liking all the contributions I'm already getting here and looking forward to more... going to try to limit my own responses to when something someone says leaves me with a follow-up question or I'd like to pick their brain harder
    Well, thats what we're all here for. Pick away, we all have opinions and are happy to share them as fact. hehe. That and a few random 'OMG OMG I NEEDZ DIS PHONEZ NOW!!!!!!" posts.
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    08-30-2011 12:56 PM
  9. p08757's Avatar
    Interested to know why this is.. as they apparently give you generally better speed and customization options... have you had any bad experiences with any specific ones you could enlighten me with? I'd like to gather as much information as the community offers..
    No really bad experiences its just my personal prefrence. Moto worked hard on Blur, why not use it.
    08-30-2011 01:04 PM
  10. ChevyNovaLN's Avatar
    No really bad experiences its just my personal prefrence. Moto worked hard on Blur, why not use it.
    Sony worked really hard on Betamax.... so what? lol

    Brian
    (j/k i completely agree)
    08-30-2011 01:06 PM
  11. p08757's Avatar
    Sony worked really hard on Betamax.... so what? lol

    Brian
    (j/k i completely agree)
    Some of the best porn I had was on Betamax.... I digress....

    I guess I never really saw the need to replace the stock launcher. Like I said to each their own.....
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    08-30-2011 01:08 PM
  12. ChevyNovaLN's Avatar
    Some of the best porn I had was on Betamax.... I digress....

    I guess I never really saw the need to replace the stock launcher. Like I said to each their own.....
    Funny enough, thats what killed betamax. the Porn industry chose VHS.

    Back on topic... Yeah. The stock launcher is a-o-k with me. I like my native android OS on my OG Droid. Not even sure what that launcher is called but now i'm running CM7 on my phone and i like ADW on it as well. As long as stuff works, i'm happy.
    08-30-2011 01:14 PM
  13. wseyller's Avatar
    I always use launcher pro plus on my original droid. I am willing to try out the blur 3d ui. If at some point I realize that I don't like it or I like laucher pro plus better then I have that choice. I'm willing to give any default UI the benefit of the doubt on a phone.
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    08-30-2011 01:29 PM
  14. Eggshen's Avatar
    I also use Launcher Pro on my OG Droid. I'm not sure if you have one of these launchers if the default UI is still in the background or not. I notice a lot of times when I'm in an application on my Droid, when I hit the home screen button or just back out to the home screen, the phone loads all the icons up again. This is really getting annoying as it can take several seconds each time I want to switch back to my home screen.

    The phone is rooted with Cyanogen mod and I'm using Launcher Pro. Anyone else notice what I'm talking about? I'm too lazy to mess around and figure out what it is. -.-
    08-30-2011 01:34 PM
  15. D1andOnlyOmen's Avatar
    Like the OP, I too am looking forward to my first Android phone (Bionic tops of my list as of now) and was curious about this same topic (so thanks for starting the thread!). Some very insightful responses thus far so thanks for all of those too.

    One question I have regarding all of this - do these other launchers essentially run "on top" of the Moto UI so to speak? In other words, is the Moto UI still really running in the background utilizing system resources while you're also using the 3rd party launcher? I'm kind of assuming that this is the case and that it's basically the reason that some prefer to root their phones.
    08-30-2011 01:40 PM
  16. TeeSquar's Avatar
    I also use Launcher Pro on my OG Droid. I'm not sure if you have one of these launchers if the default UI is still in the background or not. I notice a lot of times when I'm in an application on my Droid, when I hit the home screen button or just back out to the home screen, the phone loads all the icons up again. This is really getting annoying as it can take several seconds each time I want to switch back to my home screen.

    The phone is rooted with Cyanogen mod and I'm using Launcher Pro. Anyone else notice what I'm talking about? I'm too lazy to mess around and figure out what it is. -.-
    If you have "Lock Home in Memory" enabled, try disabling it.

    Menu/Settings/Cyanogenmod settings/Performance/Performance settings
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    08-30-2011 01:43 PM
  17. Cvballa3g0's Avatar
    I use launcher pro on my og droid. But I'm looking forward to using motorolas application platform =)

    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
    08-30-2011 01:46 PM
  18. SSHGuru's Avatar
    Launcher Pro is good but I'm going to use Motorola's new Blur. I saw what it can do like re-sizing widgets and I think it will do the job.

    Launchers are good but they will slow down the phone a bit.
    08-30-2011 01:55 PM
  19. corymcnutt's Avatar
    Like the OP, I too am looking forward to my first Android phone (Bionic tops of my list as of now) and was curious about this same topic (so thanks for starting the thread!). Some very insightful responses thus far so thanks for all of those too.

    One question I have regarding all of this - do these other launchers essentially run "on top" of the Moto UI so to speak? In other words, is the Moto UI still really running in the background utilizing system resources while you're also using the 3rd party launcher? I'm kind of assuming that this is the case and that it's basically the reason that some prefer to root their phones.
    YES, in answer to this question and some say it tends to slow it down a bit. This new stock UI looks pretty nice so I will try it first.
    08-30-2011 01:59 PM
  20. bworley50's Avatar
    YES, in answer to this question and some say it tends to slow it down a bit. This new stock UI looks pretty nice so I will try it first.
    I am using the "new blur" on my Droid 3. I like it very much and it is fast as hell b/c of the dual core processor. There are Motorola applications you can stop from running as well. All in all, their software is unobtrusive and fast. If you like the sense look, get something like beautiful widgets.
    08-30-2011 02:07 PM
  21. Eggshen's Avatar
    If you have "Lock Home in Memory" enabled, try disabling it.

    Menu/Settings/Cyanogenmod settings/Performance/Performance settings
    This setting would make sense, never knew about it. It was actually off but I'm going to try and turn it on see if that makes any difference.
    08-30-2011 02:18 PM
  22. wseyller's Avatar
    I'm no expert but android OS seems to know what apps are similiar in their functions. When you install two or more home screen replacements the OS will always ask which one to use unless you check which to always use by default. So I am assuming that when you switch it knows to not keep the other in memory.

    I think the Lock Home in memory is a trick to help eliminate redraw issues on some devices instead of refreshing the screen.
    08-30-2011 02:33 PM
  23. Eggshen's Avatar
    If you have "Lock Home in Memory" enabled, try disabling it.

    Menu/Settings/Cyanogenmod settings/Performance/Performance settings
    It seems like turning this setting on has fixed the issue, so far *crosses fingers*.
    Thank you very much for pointing this out!
    08-30-2011 02:55 PM
  24. mjforte's Avatar
    It seems like turning this setting on has fixed the issue, so far *crosses fingers*.
    Thank you very much for pointing this out!
    Another fix I remember from back when I had my OG Droid was this:
    If you use ADW or LauncherPro and if after using your browser, email or any other apps for awhile, then if you press the 'HOME' button, if it takes forever to redraw your home screen, and you are sick of that HORRIBLE LAG, then try this: In a terminal emulator:
    type "su" (without quotes) and enter.
    Then type "echo ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 >> /data/local.prop" (without quotes) and enter.
    Then reboot.

    This really helped solve the redraw problems I had due to the OG Droid's low RAM.
    08-30-2011 03:01 PM
  25. jroc's Avatar
    I like ADW. Launcher Pro or Go Launcher would be my 2nd choice for custom launcher. One of them got slower after an update and I havent liked it since. I even like SPB Shell 3D. It needs some bug fixes tho before I try to use it again.

    Since the Gingerbread update for the Droid X1....I've been rocking the stock Blur launcher. Categories in the app drawer and just the better feel when swiping screens made it a keeper for me. ADW and/or Launcher Pro did app drawer categories too and was one of my fav features but I like the way its done in the newer versions of Blur.
    08-30-2011 03:42 PM
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