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**JesusG90** · 09-13-2012, 12:15 PM

Anyone else just getting more pissed every day when you see this : Updated: 30-July-2012..? It's seems like its just a cruel joke now

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**TOPshogun** · 09-14-2012, 01:41 AM

Its really frustrating that the bionic has not received the ICS update yet, I'm starting to not like Motorola anymore just because of the way they treat their customers and their older phones. In the future I am more inclined to go with the next nexus phone or the iPhone 5.

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**cindylike24** · 09-14-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by TOPshogun

Its really frustrating that the bionic has not received the ICS update yet, I'm starting to not like Motorola anymore just because of the way they treat their customers and their older phones. In the future I am more inclined to go with the next nexus phone or the iPhone 5.

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Oh, please don't go to the dark side and get an iPhone 5. Apple will just use the profits to sue their competition for "copyright infringements".

**jrowe** · 09-14-2012, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by cindylike24

Oh, please don't go to the dark side and get an iPhone 5. Apple will just use the profits to sue their competition for "copyright infringements".

Or a deli in Poland. Because someone might mistake a ham sandwich with an iphone because bread has rounded corners

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**JesusG90** · 09-17-2012, 12:24 PM

I'm really starting to think that we're not getting the update this month either

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**celticfdguy** · 09-17-2012, 12:55 PM

Wow - how many threads are we going to have on this topic...!

Install the .232 leak and call it a day! Once OTA is released, revert back to .905 and get the OTA...

Ry · 09-17-2012, 04:19 PM

Motorola is late.

**Tom in Bristol** · 09-17-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

Motorola is late.

Uhhh...or VZW. You might want to pick up on this thread starting at about post # 665.

Sigh.

**rj160202** · 09-17-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tom in Bristol

Uhhh...or VZW. You might want to pick up on this thread starting at about post # 665.

Sigh.

Uhhh...or Motorola. If they had the build with flash working, we would have it by now. Don't be a jerk with your posts.

Sigh

**Tom in Bristol** · 09-17-2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by r160202

Uhhh...or Motorola. If they had the build with flash working, we would have it by now. Don't be a jerk with your posts.

Sigh

Adobe has bailed on Flash for wireless. Moto can't heal it.

Who's the jerk?

Ry · 09-17-2012, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Tom in Bristol

Adobe has bailed on Flash for wireless. Moto can't heal it.

Who's the jerk?

Here's the thing.

Adobe killed Flash for mobile, on Android it's dead for everything beyond Ice Cream Sandwich.

Flash should still work on an ICS build. Motorola shouldn't have submitted a build that breaks Flash, especially an upgrade build.

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**JesusG90** · 09-17-2012, 10:03 PM

Some of us don't want to go that route. Understand that

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**Tom in Bristol** · 09-17-2012, 10:10 PM

So, are you saying there are some ICS devices where Flash is fully functional? Full-screen, etc?

Seems like Sam is certain that small probs like that are all that VZW could be balking at and requiring all the AP-90 Form/audit BS that Sarge surfaced today.

Ry · 09-18-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Tom in Bristol

So, are you saying there are some ICS devices where Flash is fully functional? Full-screen, etc?

Seems like Sam is certain that small probs like that are all that VZW could be balking at and requiring all the AP-90 Form/audit BS that Sarge surfaced today.

So Flash for the RAZR guys on ICS is broken too?

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**SamuriHL** · 09-18-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ry

So Flash for the RAZR guys on ICS is broken too?

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Yes. And D4. All the moto ICS builds seem to have issues with flash. My take is that it would require a fix from Adobe to fully fix all the issues. We know that's not going to happen. Moto has stopped shipping their phones with flash and they now default to Chrome as the standard browser (which doesn't support flash). My personal opinion angers many people who insist they MUST have flash, but, quite frankly, flash on mobile is dead. Harping on a dead technology isn't going to get anywhere. It's not going to get fixed. Moto can keep trying all they want, but, all it's going to do is continue delaying the OTA. For what? Something that's not ever going to see another update? Awesome.

Ry · 09-18-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Yes. And D4. All the moto ICS builds seem to have issues with flash. My take is that it would require a fix from Adobe to fully fix all the issues. We know that's not going to happen. Moto has stopped shipping their phones with flash and they now default to Chrome as the standard browser (which doesn't support flash). My personal opinion angers many people who insist they MUST have flash, but, quite frankly, flash on mobile is dead. Harping on a dead technology isn't going to get anywhere. It's not going to get fixed. Moto can keep trying all they want, but, all it's going to do is continue delaying the OTA. For what? Something that's not ever going to see another update? Awesome.

I agree that it's a dead technology. But this is an upgrade. People who had it should assume that it will continue to work - especially since Flash is supposed to be working on stock ICS. Those RAZR and D4 builds should never have been approved then, IMO.

I'm not up to date in what the issues are with the ICS builds for the RAZR and D4. Is it worse on the Bionic or are they the exact same issues?

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**SamuriHL** · 09-18-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ry

I agree that it's a dead technology. But this is an upgrade. People who had it should assume that it will continue to work - especially since Flash is supposed to be working on stock ICS. Those RAZR and D4 builds should never have been approved then, IMO.

I'm not up to date in what the issues are with the ICS builds for the RAZR and D4. Is it worse on the Bionic or are they the exact same issues?

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It's exactly the same. By your logic, no one using a moto phone should be running ICS simply because flash doesn't work. I'm sorry, but, I couldn't possibly disagree more strongly than I do. Holding up a release for a feature that is never going to see an update is ludicrous.

Ry · 09-18-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

It's exactly the same. By your logic, no one using a moto phone should be running ICS simply because flash doesn't work. I'm sorry, but, I couldn't possibly disagree more strongly than I do. Holding up a release for a feature that is never going to see an update is ludicrous.

But again, it works on Gingerbread. And there's no going back. Were there any notes released by Verizon or Motorola for RAZR and DROID 4 owners that updated to ICS that told them that Flash would be broken? If not, I'd be pissed too.

If Flash works on other ICS devices but not on Motorola's ICS update, it really has to be a problem with Motorola's implementation.

From a customer service standpoint, it makes total sense to me that Motorola fixes this issue before releasing the update.

**SamuriHL** · 09-18-2012, 11:31 AM

We're going to have to agree to completely disagree on this one. I'll leave it at that.

**shady28** · 09-21-2012, 10:20 PM

Some folks here are probably already aware of this, but on the Motorola forums (at the Motorola website) the Droid BIONIC is listed as being up for ICS in early Q3. So, it's soon(ish), and it's official.

There's a chart at this link that lists the status of the Bionic rollout :

DROID BIONIC
USA
Development
Rollout begins in early Q3 2012.

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And just to note something...

A lot of other Moto phone owners are screwed. X2 is stuck on 2.3, droid X is stuck on 2.2 About the only kudo I can give Moto here is that they at least published their intentions; I suspect if other phone makers did the same the results would parallel Motorola's.

Too damn many phone variations for them to keep up, they need to stick to three or four lines and take care of those customers.

**1812dave** · 09-21-2012, 10:26 PM

Geez flash works on a nexus 7 running jelly bean and when I get ICS on my bionic I'll lose flash? Crappola

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**SamuriHL** · 09-22-2012, 06:57 AM

No one said it doesn't work at all. It won't be removed. It has bugs. That only adobe can fix which won't happen. Full screen is the biggest issue.

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**conanbarb** · 09-22-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by shady28

Some folks here are probably already aware of this, but on the Motorola forums (at the Motorola website) the Droid BIONIC is listed as being up for ICS in early Q3. So, it's soon(ish), and it's official.

There's a chart at this link that lists the status of the Bionic rollout :

DROID BIONIC
USA
Development
Rollout begins in early Q3 2012.

Look again. The chart has been updated to Q4