Bootloader

1088933 · 01-19-2011, 10:14 PM

How many people won't get the Bionic because of the locked bootloader?

.46caliber · 01-19-2011, 10:23 PM

Right here. The DX has been a great piece of hardware, but the locked bootloader has been a real bad deal. I thought I wouldn't mind at first, but now I cannot wait to get to an HTC device. I sometimes like using my original Droid more because of some of the awesome ROMs and kernels available.

Even Motorola has encouraged me to look to other manufacturers for a phone. See signature.

edizzle · 01-19-2011, 10:47 PM

wow, responsive forum! no for me. i will keep an ear out for what motorola says in the next few weeks about their position on locking the boot. i hope logic will prevail.it seems strange that a huge corporation could take this open source project, lock people out from modifying while making huge profits. something doesnt seem right.

**Cyber Warrior** · 01-19-2011, 10:52 PM

I would still buy it if it was hackable the way the DX is. I'm also waiting to hear on that news of Motorola may compromise the bootloader.

chrstdvd · 01-20-2011, 08:21 AM

I have been an Android user for about 6 months now (D2). I have to admit that M should not lock the boot-loader, but understand that if they do not lock it down, there will be three times the returns for supposedly defective devices. Just take a look at all the threads on all the forums of people bricking their phones because they rooted and tinkered with ROM's.

They should give us a locked phone with the option to unlock at our own risk which would void the warranty should we unlock. They could fix it so if we unlocked the device, it could not be relocked to return for something we did or did not do to cause the bricking.

thebizz · 01-20-2011, 09:26 AM

After much thought and motorola aggrivating me again yesterday with that bootloader stance i can't get this phone is love the freedom that is hard with my d1 and really miss it with the d2. So no matter how good this phone looks now in won't get it unless the bootloader is unlocked. I'll pick up the tb on a 1 year contract and wait for their dualcore offering

DolfanCole · 01-20-2011, 09:40 AM

I voted "yes, I'll buy". Here's my reasoning ... I'm a newbie to the Android world, and I'm actually still rocking a BlackBerry. So, the next phone I get will be my first Android phone. I understand the freedom concerns, and particularly the open-source nature (my profession is a software developer and I take advantage of open source solutions where possible/practicable). But, I just don't think initially that I'll be into loading custom ROMs, etc., since it'll be my first experience with Android. That may change down the road as I learn more and can appreciate the experience more. But compared to my BlackBerry, even a stock Android experience is going to be much better than what I have.

masterpiecefinishes · 01-20-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DolfanCole

I voted "yes, I'll buy". Here's my reasoning ... I'm a newbie to the Android world, and I'm actually still rocking a BlackBerry. So, the next phone I get will be my first Android phone. I understand the freedom concerns, and particularly the open-source nature (my profession is a software developer and I take advantage of open source solutions where possible/practicable). But, I just don't think initially that I'll be into loading custom ROMs, etc., since it'll be my first experience with Android. That may change down the road as I learn more and can appreciate the experience more. But compared to my BlackBerry, even a stock Android experience is going to be much better than what I have.

It will only take you a couple months for you to be VERY comfy with Android. Trust me, you'll want to root and play with custom roms as soon as you are a little more familiar.

xesso · 01-20-2011, 10:37 AM

/\+1 it took me a total of 3 months to root and start flashing roms. I have flashed at least 1 rom a month since then

Johnly · 01-20-2011, 10:59 AM

Boot loader is a great pointof access to hack/hijack your phone/info. The more these devices operate like computers, some security is desirable. I think good companies should spend the time/money to protect you. Knowing that some like SU assess, there should be a way to exploit the device for development purposes, and because android is OS software, finding that medium is the challenge. The company that does that best, in my book, will have a great reputation to professionals (that will never operate privately on a exploitable device) and to OS developers by giving them an option to sign motorola is not responsible for your device, and your warranty is void, then proceed to give you a open bootlaoder. That is how moto needs to do it. Even though at best 1 in 100 hack their phones, that number adds up, and we need open boot loaders to be happy.