Blasphamy: Avoiding ICS?

**CRitter** · 06-22-2012, 02:04 PM

Having barely recovered from the last disastrous update and seeing no advantage to me in ICS, can I somehow avoid or not accept the ICS update and tell them to just leave me along?

**carracerz14** · 06-22-2012, 06:46 PM

Idk why you wouldn't want ics

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**fatboy97** · 06-22-2012, 07:01 PM

Sure there is a way... one, root your device and flash a new ROM, probably not the easiest, but it is the only fore sure way I know on how to stop updates (which will also void your warranty)... or you can watch your device 24/7 and try to stop it from downloading, but it will eventually download, then you have to watch it and make sure it doesn't install it, which it will try to do 24/7 all by itself unless you keep checking your device and keep saying no... and I think you will loose more sleep than it might be worth.

ICS will be the supported operating system that Verizon will expect you to have if you have the device... so even if you able keep it from installing ICS and you have any issues you will have problems getting any help on this site, or from Verizon without the upgrade.

**CRitter** · 06-22-2012, 07:03 PM

Thanks. I guess all I can hope for is a minimum of problems. Unfortunately, my experience with software upgrades is not at all positive. <sigh>

**Jays2Kings** · 06-22-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by carracerz14

Idk why you wouldn't want ics

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Maybe they're lactose intolerant.

Bad joke aside, you would have to root, as it's a system app that needs to be uninstalled in order for the update notifications to stop bothering you, the app would be called something like moto updater, but I have a droid X so the name of the app might of changed a bit.

I say give the update a try anyway, I'm not sure what your previous problem was but ICS is definitely worth a shot.

**fatboy97** · 06-22-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jays2Kings

Maybe they're lactose intolerant.

Bad joke aside, you would have to root, as it's a system app that needs to be uninstalled in order for the update notifications to stop bothering you, the app would be called something like moto updater, but I have a droid X so the name of the app might of changed a bit.

I say give the update a try anyway, I'm not sure what your previous problem was but ICS is definitely worth a shot.

Rooting alone is not the answer... updates will still try to install on a rooted device.

**chubb** · 06-22-2012, 08:09 PM

He does say you have to uninstall a system app to stop it. I would still take the update since ICS is awesome in my opinion.

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**fatboy97** · 06-22-2012, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by chubb

He does say you have to uninstall a system app to stop it. I would still take the update since ICS is awesome in my opinion.

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Sorry, but I've seen people do that all day with the old Thunderbolt (not that long ago) and they still got in trouble with system updates being pushed... they removed the "system apps" then they all screamed about bricking their device after they received an update... I've got just a little experience with that... and don't want to see it again... that is why in my first post I said they would have flash a diffident ROM after they rooted, and that I would not recommend it anyways since it will void their warranty.

**Sleepingeye** · 06-22-2012, 08:51 PM

to be perfectly honest, there really isn't any need for ics. Most of the features of ics can be replicated by apps. Face unlock, for example, is available by installing visidon apply locker.

**redtooth** · 06-22-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepingeye

to be perfectly honest, there really isn't any need for ics. Most of the features of ics can be replicated by apps. Face unlock, for example, is available by installing visidon apply locker.

What app gives you multi threading? We have dual core processors and really can't really use them. Also I understand that hardware acceleration works much better with ics. Just saying

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**Jays2Kings** · 06-22-2012, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by fatboy97

Sorry, but I've seen people do that all day with the old Thunderbolt (not that long ago) and they still got in trouble with system updates being pushed... they removed the "system apps" then they all screamed about bricking their device after they received an update... I've got just a little experience with that... and don't want to see it again... that is why in my first post I said they would have flash a diffident ROM after they rooted, and that I would not recommend it anyways since it will void their warranty.

Sorry for the inaccuracy about the app name, I haven't been on stock Motoblur for a while, however I've removed that one app, and all it does is disable update notification (likely the whole update process), no bricking, just can't update now, and I'm not sure if just re-installing the apk would set the updating process back to normal, but it's also likely, just don't take my word on it. Either way removing that one app should not brick the phone as motoblur relies on an app to notify users of updates.

However like you said rooting will void the warranty, and without rooting you'll still be notified about it endlessly (IIRC the update will download and install itself if action isn't taking in a certain time, i.e. when you're sleeping on a full charge). The options are keep rejecting or to accept.

**phissure** · 06-22-2012, 09:15 PM

Ebay you current phone and buy something guaranteed not to get ICS...

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**thatguy9684** · 06-22-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepingeye

to be perfectly honest, there really isn't any need for ics. Most of the features of ics can be replicated by apps. Face unlock, for example, is available by installing visidon apply locker.

I just watched a couple of the Motorola videos on the ICS update and must say I can not wait. You can make folders now, take pictures while shooting video, from lock screen you can unlock straight into your phone, text messages, home screen, or camera, and soon most applications will be optimized for ICS. This is just a few of the updates in addition to having a smoother looking interface. IDK what your previous issues were with updates in the past but I think with this one you will be happy. Either way good luck.

**DrWu** · 06-22-2012, 09:41 PM

you'll want ICS. its awesome #1....#2, haven't heard of an app that can activate the GSM service and give you international coverage. Only the ics update will do that.

**cbreze** · 06-23-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by CRitter

Having barely recovered from the last disastrous update and seeing no advantage to me in ICS, can I somehow avoid or not accept the ICS update and tell them to just leave me along?

Ha, I couldn't even get the last update to install properly. Can't even get ICS without that. Im not all that psyched out for it anyway. I am interested to see how this massive roll out goes tho. Could be issues for some of the peeps.
To answer your question about denying updates, I just froze the updater app. No more annoying pop ups. Gotta be rooted of course . If I unfreeze it I get the notification to download 181. So I keep it in the freezer. I tried everything to get the last update and finally just got tired of all the "back to factory" resets.
What I really want much more than ICS is LTE. When that comes to the hood I'll be crappin' in tall cotton. I know everybodys really hot for ICS tho, so enjoy. Certainly not blasphemous to not give a sh?t tho either.
Facial recognition? Ooh, gotta have that. Cam shots while in video mode? Another must have. Screen shots? Geez....Activate international GSM? WTF? Another useless add-on for my usage.

**Cruiserdude** · 06-23-2012, 04:41 AM

The majority of negative issues related to Android updates can be fixed with a simple data wipe. It's ALWAYS best to do a factory reset when moving from one Android version to a newer one, but the OTA update packages don't do this for you because it would scare users. But when people complain about the updates, the first thing a CSR will tell them is to wipe their data.

So make sure your contacts are synched to Google, your pictures and music and all is on the sd so you'll be fine. For your apps, use a backup program, let Google try and re-sync everything, or just remember what you want and re-download them. I can assure you from first-hand experience that this update does NOT have issues, and will improve your phone's performance and battery life noticeably.

If you simply don't like the added features or tweaked interface of ICS, I don't know what to tell you. Most everyone loves that, but you can use it pretty much like you used GB and skip using the new features, though the task switcher is the single best part of any modern mobile OS, imho.

Hold out if you want to, but it doesn't make sense to go through all that hassle to prevent your phone from getting ICS, this coming from someone who's gone through alot of trouble to have the latest builds of ICS on this phone for several months now. Accept the OTA when it comes, and wipe your data like I said, and I think you'll really grow to love it.

**Ricky Babalu** · 06-23-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by CRitter

Having barely recovered from the last disastrous update and seeing no advantage to me in ICS, can I somehow avoid or not accept the ICS update and tell them to just leave me along?

I am rooted on a Droid X and I am still on Froyo. I did this by using Titamium Backup to "Freeze" the updater. My phone works perfect and I did not want to upgrade to Gingerbread (still glad I did not). Anyhow, it can be done.

****I understand your hesitation, but ICS is a vast improvement. I would let it upgrade.