Ice Cream Sandwich Question

**Iceycold** · 02-02-2012, 12:24 PM

Hello.

So I'm getting this phone today (AWESOME!) but wanted to ask something.

I know it's getting Ice Cream Sandwich, but will it look like ICS? Or will Motorola get it's grubby hands on it and fuse it with MotoBlur? Just wondering. I'm guessing that will happen? Since only stock ICS goes to google phones?

Kinda how official Gingerbread on Thunderbolt, is really just HTC Sense again, nothing looks different? Will it be like that with Motorola?

Thanks.

**Zman1001** · 02-02-2012, 12:29 PM

If you are getting this phone, then you should be willing to accept that ICS on this phone will have the hands from Motorola in it somehow (in whatever you want to call it whether it is Motoblur, or something else)

**Iceycold** · 02-02-2012, 01:05 PM

Yeah I know, just wanted to know how ICS would be on the phone.

It seems like Motoblur will be slapped on it. That's fine. I just like how the menu's and all look on ICS, any idea if we will get a ICS theme or something?

**fatboy97** · 02-02-2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Iceycold

Yeah I know, just wanted to know how ICS would be on the phone.

It seems like Motoblur will be slapped on it. That's fine. I just like how the menu's and all look on ICS, any idea if we will get a ICS theme or something?

If you just had to have vanilla ICS, then you should have picked up a Galaxy Nexus... but it looks like you want Motorola to stop putting it's own skins on it's devices... just not going to happen.

**Zman1001** · 02-02-2012, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Iceycold

Yeah I know, just wanted to know how ICS would be on the phone.

It seems like Motoblur will be slapped on it. That's fine. I just like how the menu's and all look on ICS, any idea if we will get a ICS theme or something?

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.

or said a little differently

if it looks like a Motorola phone, and it acts like a Motorola phone, then why in the world would ICS not be Motorola skinned?

That is what it is going to look like.

Theme: Motorola themed.

Look: Motorola look

I am not sure how many more ways we can describe it for you so that you will be able to accept it.

Oh, and before you ask. Second quarter

**Iceycold** · 02-02-2012, 03:40 PM

I'm just wondering, I'm fine with ICS theme or Motoblur (both are definately an improvement over HTC Sense that's for sure).

Ok thanks guys.

**Zorro1** · 02-02-2012, 03:43 PM

I still wonder how to navigate without the Back button? We have Gingerbread on our Galaxy Tab where it vanished, and I just don't get it. What do you do instead?

**Iceycold** · 02-02-2012, 03:46 PM

I read somewhere it's going to be 3 little dots ... in a vertical position. In the top right corner of the app, say Gmail.

**androidcore** · 02-02-2012, 05:04 PM

Think of motoblurs ICS when compared to g-nexus ICS as French vanilla bean ice cream..... its still vanilla ice cream (ICS ) but with ground up beans in it (motoblur)....

I don't expect Motorola's ICS to be a severe change... ICS is just android... like cake... motoblur is a UI, like frosting. All ICS elements should be there plus added features (motoblur). .. I wouldn't worry.

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**moosc** · 02-02-2012, 05:33 PM

First don't expect a huge difference in looks. Blur has always been blan . They don't do fancy menus or what not. That's one reason its easy for motorola to upgrade there's little bloat.

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**Zorro1** · 02-03-2012, 10:51 AM

Yeah, I have to wonder why follks dis Blur, since it barely exists. The VZW cr@p is more irritating than anything Moto puts on there.

**azn_man_down** · 02-03-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Zorro1

Yeah, I have to wonder why follks dis Blur, since it barely exists. The VZW cr@p is more irritating than anything Moto puts on there.

Agreed. I have the Go Launcher Ex set to hide all the crap from Verizon.

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**Eclipse2K** · 02-03-2012, 03:18 PM

I actually prefer this version of Blur to Sense. I love that I can have Phone, Text, and Browser locked to the bottom at all times for one.

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**Iceycold** · 02-03-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Eclipse2K

I actually prefer this version of Blur to Sense. I love that I can have Phone, Text, and Browser locked to the bottom at all times for one.

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Yeah it's a pretty sweet feature.

The only gripe I have with Motoblur is the messaging app isn't too nice, or atleast the bubble color. Anyways there's tons of messaging apps.

**Zorro1** · 02-03-2012, 04:35 PM

Yeah, both the phone app and the text app are way better than on the orig. Droid, and so far I've just lived with them, tho' there are parts of each that are kind of dumb. But I really am trying to live with a handful less apps this time to keep this Porsche from becoming a Dodge Pickup.

**Averix** · 02-03-2012, 05:24 PM

Moto's Gallery app is the killer for me. That thing is terrible. Thankfully, there are plenty of other options. Moto BlurNotBlur has actually grown on me in general though. HTC's Sense feels so heavy after using the Razr for a while.

**delco714** · 02-03-2012, 08:43 PM

It's not even called motoblur anymore! But I like it!

**moosc** · 02-03-2012, 10:06 PM

And after seeing asop ics on razr it is kick azz better then nexus

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**Iceycold** · 02-04-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by moosc

And after seeing asop ics on razr it is kick azz better then nexus

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Where is everyone seeing these Stock ICS pics on the razr? I checked on XDA and didn't find anything could I get a link?

**jroc** · 02-04-2012, 01:40 AM

One thing most ppl dont realize is that Blur, Moto Application Platform, the skin formerly known as Blur...lol..is the closest skin to stock Android than the others. I have a Rezound and RAZR. And the Rezound with Sense UI is heavier than whats on the RAZR.

Put it like this: the Rezound vs the RAZR...ICS might be more recognized on the RAZR than Rezound. I seen some HTC phone (the Ville?) with ICS and Sense 4.0 and just based on the lock screen its hard to tell its running ICS. The home screen dock area you can tell tho.

What was shown for the RAZR recently...the lock screen does look different...but to me ICS still might be more recognizable on the RAZR.

HTC Ville

RAZR

IF that holds true for ICS on the RAZR....just looking at the home screen it could be mistaken for a G Nex. And in all honestly...what they did with GB on the Droid X1 and RAZR...I think whatever Moto does with ICS will be nice.

**pauliphone5** · 02-04-2012, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by jroc

One thing most ppl dont realize is that Blur, Moto Application Platform, the skin formerly known as Blur...lol..is the closest skin to stock Android than the others. I have a Rezound and RAZR. And the Rezound with Sense UI is heavier than whats on the RAZR.

Put it like this: the Rezound vs the RAZR...ICS might be more recognized on the RAZR than Rezound. I seen some HTC phone (the Ville?) with ICS and Sense 4.0 and just based on the lock screen its hard to tell its running ICS. The home screen dock area you can tell tho.

What was shown for the RAZR recently...the lock screen does look different...but to me ICS still might be more recognizable on the RAZR.

HTC Ville

RAZR

IF that holds true for ICS on the RAZR....just looking at the home screen it could be mistaken for a G Nex. And in all honestly...what they did with GB on the Droid X1 and RAZR...I think whatever Moto does with ICS will be nice.

Close to stock does not equal stock. They still add in Moto's warped idea of what Android should like and how it should perform.

I think whatever Moto does to ICS will be more of the same second rate design they have done since they created the term Blur.

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**Droid800** · 02-04-2012, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by PaulDroidR2D2

Close to stock does not equal stock. They still add in Moto's warped idea of what Android should like and how it should perform.

I think whatever Moto does to ICS will be more of the same second rate design they have done since they created the term Blur.

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Judging by the pictures we've seen, it will be the closest to stock you can get. In fact, it looks like what they've done is mostly superficial, like replacing icons and skinning the notification bar.

**jroc** · 02-04-2012, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by PaulDroidR2D2

Close to stock does not equal stock. They still add in Moto's warped idea of what Android should like and how it should perform.

I think whatever Moto does to ICS will be more of the same second rate design they have done since they created the term Blur.

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Ok....

Stock Android isnt the end all be all. I had a Droid 1 and G Nex. Droid 1? I added so much 3rd party stuff to it, ran so many ROMs, it wasnt stock anymore. ICS is the best stock Android on phones to date. Point of my post was....custom UI's isnt as bad as some ppl make it. And some custom UI's might be more appealing than others for whatever reason.

Like I said before.... look at stock Gingerbread, use stock Gingerbread on a stock Android phone like the Nexus S...then use a phone like the Rezound or RAZR...and please tell me where they made Gingerbread worse than stock.. Cuz in the end its all about preference. And if you think Blur is a warped idea...you must never have used Sense UI. Sense UI could be an entire free standing OS if HTC keeps going they way they are.

And since you feel that way about Moto and Blur...arent you glad you chose the G Nex? After using the RAZR, G Nex and Rezound.... Blur cant be all that bad since I no longer have my G Nex. Still have my Rezound too. You know...that lil thing called wants n needs came into play. By the way...Blur cant be totally 2nd rate since ICS has resizable widgets.

**androidatic** · 02-04-2012, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by jroc

Ok....

Stock Android isnt the end all be all. I had a Droid 1 and G Nex. Droid 1? I added so much 3rd party stuff to it, ran so many ROMs, it wasnt stock anymore. ICS is the best stock Android on phones to date. Point of my post was....custom UI's isnt as bad as some ppl make it. And some custom UI's might be more appealing than others for whatever reason.

Like I said before.... look at stock Gingerbread, use stock Gingerbread on a stock Android phone like the Nexus S...then use a phone like the Rezound or RAZR...and please tell me where they made Gingerbread worse than stock.. Cuz in the end its all about preference. And if you think Blur is a warped idea...you must never have used Sense UI. Sense UI could be an entire free standing OS if HTC keeps going they way they are.

And since you feel that way about Moto and Blur...arent you glad you chose the G Nex? After using the RAZR, G Nex and Rezound.... Blur cant be all that bad since I no longer have my G Nex. Still have my Rezound too. You know...that lil thing called wants n needs came into play. By the way...Blur cant be totally 2nd rate since ICS has resizable widgets.

I took my Razr to VZW and did a side-by-side comparison with the GN. Except for some blue highlights and optional widgets I still can't tell what Blur is.

One thing I did notice is that Google "borrowed " ideas from Sense and incorporate them into ICS. Funny how that works, huh?

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**pauliphone5** · 02-04-2012, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by androidatic

I took my Razr to VZW and did a side-by-side comparison with the GN. Except for some blue highlights and optional widgets I still can't tell what Blur is.

One thing I did notice is that Google "borrowed " ideas from Sense and incorporate them into ICS. Funny how that works, huh?

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What ideas did Google borrow in your opinion?

@jroc, I have never said ICS is the end all. I simply do not like what Blur or whatever it's being called now does. I don't care for sense either

I have owned phones with each of those OS's, not simply tried them out in a store for a few minutes.

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