Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com - Politics http://forums.androidcentral.com/ Non-biased and non-partisan (yeah right) political discussions involving breaking news, media bias, warfare, conspiracy theories, economics, and other social issues. en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:25:19 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.androidcentral.com/images/misc/rss.png Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com - Politics http://forums.androidcentral.com/ Machine People http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/289339-machine-people-new-post.html Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:09:51 GMT Immortality by 2045 or bust: Russian tycoon wants to transfer minds to machines | StarTribune.com... Immortality by 2045 or bust: Russian tycoon wants to transfer minds to machines | StarTribune.com ]]> Politics NothingIsTrue http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/289339-machine-people.html <![CDATA[Name & Shame the worst charities]]> http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/289291-name-shame-worst-charities-new-post.html Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:41:25 GMT http://www.ibtimes.com/50-worst-charities-america-tax-records-show-most-profits-go-solicitors-full-list-1308081 An issue always known, but its good... http://www.ibtimes.com/50-worst-char...l-list-1308081
An issue always known, but its good actual figures are out.

Posted via Android Central App ]]> Politics Fairclough http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/289291-name-shame-worst-charities.html Flag Day http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288685-flag-day-new-post.html Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:34:55 GMT Flag Day in United States (http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/flag-day) Flag Day in United States
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]]> Politics Live2ride883 http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288685-flag-day.html Soon to be a new citizen http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288384-soon-new-citizen-new-post.html Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:29:12 GMT Ok I was listening to the radio and a comedian came on, this was on AM radio so thats not very often. It was a guy who was going to be on ABC... Ok I was listening to the radio and a comedian came on, this was on AM radio so thats not very often. It was a guy who was going to be on ABC Australian Story - a refugee who is trying to become a citizen. Now the story I am posting won't be as funny as I heard on the radio but best extract similar i could find. He also survived a Kangaroo on Perth's highway ;) This story is from his home town before he came to Australia.

Quote:
"Something happened to me recently to prove the power of comedy. I was driving home
from work and a guy stuck a gun in my face and asked for my phone and wallet. Now in
Karachi, that’s basically such a common thing that it doesn’t even bother us anymore.
In fact, if you haven’t been robbed at gunpoint then you aren’t really a Karachiite. So
he took my phone and my wallet and then he turned to me and said, and I promise this
happened, “Don’t be angry.”

And because I am an *****, before I could stop myself, I said “You took everything else,
at least leave me my anger.”

And he laughed. So I laughed. Then he thought about it for a second and gave me back
my phone and wallet. I was so confused I thought it was a candid camera situation. And
he said “you look like a decent person, I can’t rob you.” And he walked away.

Just like that. Comedy took him by surprise more than a gun took me by surprise. It
broke through the violence for just long enough to make a difference. So remember that
lesson. Because the alternative is too depressing to consider. The alternative is that he
was such a bad judge of character that he thought I was decent.

Thank you." - Sami Shah
The extract omits the good bits and the bit were the guy said he won't kill him, but I thought it was a good example of how comedy can change situations ]]> Politics Fairclough http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288384-soon-new-citizen.html The Mega Lounge http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288365-mega-lounge-new-post.html Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:01:53 GMT I've placed this in Politics as it might cause a bit of biffle ;)
I have this idea to merge Androids, Apple, BlackBerry and Windows lounges together for a mega lounge so there is a more diverse and active section. ]]> Politics Fairclough http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/288365-mega-lounge.html °° PROJECT: Fixing the Current Human Condition http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/287728-project-fixing-current-human-condition-new-post.html Tue, 11 Jun 2013 04:19:18 GMT Oxytocin.

What is it? It's what some behavioral experts believe is the reason for why the world is the way it is. An "ancient molecule in the human brain".

Of course, this would mean that we were predestined to act according to how this molecule 'sits' in us.
But can't our intelligence override this if we desire it to? Don't our minds override/suppress multiple things each and every day?
Or can it not override this particular aspect of itself... must we succumb to it against our will?

For instance -
Did Hitler have to be the way he was because of his biological makeup? Or could he just as easily been your neighborhood barber? Before you say, "It was his environment", don't forget there were barbers there too.

Your replies don't necessarily have to include Hitler. It's just that I thought he would be an ideal 'test' for this discussion.

Here's a link to chew on:
http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/th...eople-are-evil



•• I think signatures are jejune. ]]> Politics llamabreath http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/287728-project-fixing-current-human-condition.html <![CDATA[But wait! There's more!]]> http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286532-but-wait-theres-more-new-post.html Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:18:49 GMT Image: http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/07/3ymybu8a.jpg... http://m.washingtonpost.com/investig...497_story.html



•• I think signatures are stupid. ]]> Politics llamabreath http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286532-but-wait-theres-more.html D-day 6 June 1944 http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286526-d-day-6-june-1944-a-new-post.html Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:56:46 GMT Here's some information on D-day, more links at the bottom of the first page.

Normandy Invasion -- The D-Day Landings, 6 June 1944 ]]> Politics Live2ride883 http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286526-d-day-6-june-1944-a.html NSA collects records of Verizon customers http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286408-nsa-collects-records-verizon-customers-new-post.html Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:31:19 GMT The story in this video starts around 1:38 in. Michelle Malkin on NSA Collecting Verizon Phone Records of Americans | Fox News Insider... The story in this video starts around 1:38 in.

Michelle Malkin on NSA Collecting Verizon Phone Records of Americans | Fox News Insider.

More information can be found here.

Michelle Malkin |

Another interesting video, while this topic is not mentioned directly. But is more a commentary on the big picture.

YouTube ]]> Politics Live2ride883 http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286408-nsa-collects-records-verizon-customers.html Understanding Suicide Prevention http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286295-understanding-suicide-prevention-new-post.html Thu, 06 Jun 2013 06:04:15 GMT Rules:

1. No insulting members
2. No, "suck it up buttercup" comments. Try to avoid blaming (including survivors).
3. Nothing posted in this thread should be used against someone posting their opinions or personal stories. Ever. But, keep in mind this is the internet and it's a public forum.

In general, if you're going to be a jerk, just don't.

Mods: This is in politics to keep it out of the Android stuff. If there is a better place or if you want to remove it, feel free.

Opportunity: Share stories, ask questions, whatever about loved ones who have considered, attempted or carried out self harmful actions, including suicide.

If you are considering harming yourself and need to talk to someone, visit this link: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline or call 24/7.
Call 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

]]> Politics NothingIsTrue http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/286295-understanding-suicide-prevention.html Your Favorite Ice Cream Flavor http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285834-your-favorite-ice-cream-flavor-new-post.html Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:23:01 GMT Let me be clear: I have not asked for permission to make this thread, and if it gets out of hand I fully expect the Moderators to ban everyone... Let me be clear: I have not asked for permission to make this thread, and if it gets out of hand I fully expect the Moderators to ban everyone involved. That being said, what's your favorite Ice Cream flavor?

]]> Politics NothingIsTrue http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285834-your-favorite-ice-cream-flavor.html Red Team vs Blue Team - TL:DR http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285662-red-team-vs-blue-team-tl-dr-new-post.html Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:05:56 GMT I think about this on a few levels... obviously there exists a dichotomy between the red team and the blue team in politics, but at what level does... I think about this on a few levels... obviously there exists a dichotomy between the red team and the blue team in politics, but at what level does it exist?

To think about this honestly, it's necessary to make distinctions between what people say, what they do and what they believe. It's also necessary to think of people not only as individuals, but also as a separate organism when they combine voices. It's not simply red and blue or black and white. Indeed, with a little bit of education, the closer one gets to the far ends of the spectrum, the more aligned the positions on individual issues become to the opposite position on the spectrum. So why the conflict? In a word: perception.

I'm going to focus on what people do, both because we know people lie and because it's quite obvious that the red team and the blue team are saying different things.. at least on the surface. What people actually do is a result of their beliefs, and I will attempt to show that the red team and the blue team, on an establishment level, have the exact same goals, methodology and win in the same way: therefore they are achieving the same actions and therefore share identical beliefs.

Perception is a study of it's own, but for now let us make the following assumption: the perception of the majority of the people is carefully controlled by those in power.

With this in mind, I make the following assertions:

1. The media exists outside the context of the Constitutional consideration, which was to report, inform and to provide a check on the secret dealings of power. They are now merely mouthpieces of what is known as "the establishment", the microphone used by establishment "politicians".
2. The majority of politics is in reality handled by people most of us will never hear about. The majority of the politicians that we see on camera, on the hill and in state houses across the country are themselves merely microphones to be used when they're popular, paraded as the downtrodden when they're not and discarded when they're useless.
3. Those that make the decisions are not "owned" by the establishment business interests; they're not the pawns of corporations. They ARE the establishment business interests. This is called fascism and is the reason why there is no cry of fascism when both democrats and republicans agree to rob the public blind and pass those funds directly to corporations that seemingly have little to no alignment with the politicians leading the charge. This happens irregardless of what jersey they wear.
4. By the time they rise to the national stage, 100% of politicians are employed by the fascist establishment, while receiving a paycheck and praise for their efforts from the people. Despite the openness of this conflict of interest, a very small percentage of the public is concerned. Many view the side effects as "corruption" of individual politicians, or a systemic system of bribery, etc. in which specific people are guilty of betraying their oath... when the reality, is that if they ever make a decision in the favor of the people, it's either coincidence or a direct betrayal of their real masters.... this is why this very rarely happens.
5. The mechanism of the deception, the reason that the average Joe doesn't recognize fascism at work, or that they might smell it but believe it to be less rampant than it is, is a manipulation of focus and perception known as the hegelian dialectic. One creates a problem - thesis, creates a draconian solution, antithesis and then allows a compromise that was the true goal of the project anyways, synthesis.

In this case it's the dialectic squared, squared. In a masterful perversion of one of the most basic and already perverse manners of human manipulation, the following scenario unfolds: The establishment creates a problem and lets their mouthpieces slowly leak the problem, spun appropriately, to the public. In this case they do it twice, once with red shirts and once with blue shirts and their respective media microphones. They then create a solution, following the same pattern. The resulting actions, taken as compromise, can be observed to be the true original intent of the establishment.

This is the mastery in three parts:
1. The entire public needs to buy into the existence of the problem, but they don't recognize the true allegiances of the red and blue teams to the same masters, they only trust their side. Thus, each side spins it through their channels. But, some people don't trust easily, so they take it a step forward to add emotional content... they each blame the other "side" for the problem. In this way, the media mouthpieces for both sides are all talking about the problem, all blaming the other team and creating a religiosity-esque fervor among the masses. On a psychological level, people need to feel aligned with society and opposed to the forces that would undo it. Clearly this step plays to both sides of that need in a passionate way. The exact same process is repeated for the solution, escalating the public's buy-in to their side's argument.
2. The resulting synthesis can be perceived as a compromise or as a win for either side without harming the overall objective. Obviously, the synthesis was the original intent and thus, both sides playing for the same team, both sides win despite what the public believes.
3. The resulting synthesis is but one step in a long ladder of these projects, and looking backwards it's easy to view the goal by observing the progress made: the erosion of the concept, believe in and power of Rights. Already, an immense part of the population believes that their Rights are granted to them by the government.

The key to this entire thing is understanding the difference between controlling a person's actions and controlling their perspective. When people rail against being controlled, they believe it's in reference to someone somehow either magically, or technologically forcing them to do specific actions against their will. The reality is far darker. By controlling your perception, they allow you to choose the action they wanted and it is of your own free will, because you programmatically have no other choice. Like in chess, the goal is to create a situation in which no matter what move your opponent makes, it strengthens your position and weakens theirs.

I'm not sure how well I've made my case, but we've covered some pixels here and have already entered the TL:DR status for many readers, so let me finish with one last statement and two questions:

Statement: The goal of the establishment is clear, because fascism has but one goal: tyranny in totality.
Question 1: Do you see a distinction between the red team and the blue team?
Question 2: What color jersey do you wear? ]]> Politics NothingIsTrue http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285662-red-team-vs-blue-team-tl-dr.html Money, Religion and War - OH MY! http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285561-money-religion-war-oh-my-new-post.html Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:43:26 GMT And Land.

Sorry, had to use poetic license to make the thread title "jump". :)



The THREE ROOT CAUSES of War (imo) are (in no particular order) :

* Money
* Land
* Religion

I actually think Money and Land can be chalked up to Greed, but let's just ride with this for a second...

MONEY - If there was no need for money, just imagine the percentage of the world's problems that would disappear. This can be a thread in and of itself, but why can't somebody think of a way to eliminate this 'root of all evil'?

LAND - What if the world was composed of one universal "Country"? No borders, no turf disputes. Natural resources available to anyone from anywhere, instead of through some geographical advantage?

RELIGION - Right now, people hate and kill other people just because they don't believe in God the same way, or think their God is THE God to worship; or just think that all those "God-fearing" people are hypocritical jackhammers. If it weren't for Religion, the prospect of war would drop exponentially.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this thread, but isn't it pretty clear that there are only a couple reasons why this world is the way it is?


•• ]]> Politics llamabreath http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285561-money-religion-war-oh-my.html <![CDATA[EXCUSE ME! sorry... EXCUSE ME! sorry... I'm looking for a used brain...]]> http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285543-excuse-me-sorry-excuse-me-sorry-im-looking-used-brain-new-post.html Mon, 03 Jun 2013 21:04:15 GMT Is this REALLY the smartest plan that can be thought of? http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-city-plans-fine-unmarried-133939519.html What about... Is this REALLY the smartest plan that can be thought of? http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-city-p...133939519.html

What about education about birth-control? Or if there's no money to pay for that, why just fine the mothers? Doesn't it still take two people to make more people?

Has anyone thought of the child's feelings, and the stigma that'll be on their head as they grow up and go through life?

Really?

•• ]]> Politics llamabreath http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285543-excuse-me-sorry-excuse-me-sorry-im-looking-used-brain.html License to drive with a dangerous medical history http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285000-license-drive-dangerous-medical-history-new-post.html Sat, 01 Jun 2013 19:53:18 GMT Here in the Atlanta area yesterday, a woman was killed when a driver with a known history of seizures crossed a 40' grassy median and hit her vehicle head-on.

It could easily have been my wife's car that he ran into. Why is it legal for somebody that has a history of seizures to drive? Is this right? ]]> Politics llamabreath http://forums.androidcentral.com/politics/285000-license-drive-dangerous-medical-history.html