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    Default Bit of market research

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    Hi

    As an android apps developer I would be very interested to get some feedback on the following points:

    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?


    Thanks for your patience - I'm sure a lot of developers would love to know this stuff and maybe improve user experiences!
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    1. I find it easier to find new games right here.
    4. Wing it for the most part.
    5. If I like it AND the ads are a nuisance.
    6. Never.
    7 Single player.
    8 Android Market.
    9. No.
    10. Absolutely!
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    1. Fairly easy. IMO it was easier with the old Market and it's "just in" list.
    2. Because of my job, I tend to have to make the recommendations versus rely on them.
    3. Being available for devices it does not work with in the Market. Developers -- please use device filtering
    4. Jump in and go.
    5. I'll pay for any application I use more than once, games included.
    6. No. I hate sharing my phone
    7. Single player. I usually only play games when i have a bit of downtime, which usually gets interrupted.
    8. Android Market
    9. I don't, but I understand the attraction and think it's a nice feature.
    10. Yes.

    Great idea, running a survey about this. Let's get it on the Android Central blog and try to get you some more answers.
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    It's difficult to do the devices. I test mine on my HTC Wildfire and then rely on Android Market to do the rest. On Amazon they do seem to be a bit more particular, but realistically I have made $15 in 4 months, and money is not my motivation, but equally I can't test my games on every device available.

    Possibly Android Market will have to get a little more particular and maybe bring themselves into line with Amazon and Apple who do vet the apps they offer.
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    Yeah. Sorry. Little distracted by my wife.

    "Great idea, running a survey about this. Let's get it on the Android Central blog and try to get you some more answers."

    Where do you think this should be posted and feel free to pass it on.
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Pretty much, though I do hit up AppBrain to get a better view of the new stuff.

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    A little of both. I read a number of app review sites, threads on XDA, and watch what's trending on the Market.

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    Lengthy downloads that take you past the review window only to find the game is buggy or not as advertised. Surpassed only by lengthy update checks every time you run the game, which is a problem I have with Princess Punt.

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    Wing it, definitely. If a game isn't "discoverable" without reading the instructions, then it needs a better UI. Pop-up hints/tips are okay to explain the tough stuff.

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    I would pay a reasonable price for a game that I *KNOW* works on my device. Lengthy content downloads have made me very very wary, though, of paying for a game untried. I do NOT, however, appreciate in-game content purchases.

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    No.

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?
    Single.

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?
    Android Market 100%.

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?
    No, when they have those features I make an effort NOT to use them.

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
    Only if the game is outstanding. Maybe 1 or 2 per year max.
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    1. Yes
    2. Both, but recommendations more
    3. Waiting for the game to download an extra X MB of data (instead of including it all in the Market download)
    4. Instructions
    5. When I think I'll play it more than once or twice
    6. Never.
    7. Mostly play single player, but wish there were more multiplayer online games.
    8. Android Market
    9. I like when it's an option, I don't like being forced into it just to play
    10. Definitely!

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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    No, I find most new apps through Android blogs. There are just too many in the market to know what's good and what's not.

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    I search categories every once in a while but it's never a productive exercise.

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    Device incompatibility

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    Usually just wing it

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    I pay for lots of games, especially if they are recommended by an outside source.

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    No

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    Single player (on a mobile phone at least)

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    Android Market only

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    No.

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?

    Yes.
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    OK, let's see if I can provide you some feedback...
    1. I hate to say it but, no. The market really needs a "new" or "recently added" section to make this easier. I do, however, discover new games/apps thanks to sites like this one! So, one way to let folks know about your apps, is to let sites like Android Central know about it or by posting here!
    2. It's a mix here. If a game is recommended by an Android forum member or by an article on the page, I will definitely check it out. I also browse the market for games in the categories I like (or just type searches).
    3. Since I am mostly playing games on my Prime now, resolution would be the thing. Some of the games do not scale very well. I suppose now that phones have resolutions that match current tablets (ie, 720p), this may start to change. I don't see force closures very much with any of the games I have. For certain games, the control scheme is an issue, particularly with on-screen controls. The tablets deals with this much better than the phones, however.
    4. This depends on the game. Some games are ports of known games, so I just "wing" it. Others, I will read so I know what the heck I'm supposed to be doing! I've found that if a game offers the instructions on a tutorial or as pop ups, that's when I find them most useful.
    5. If I just like it and I find the price to be "right," I just buy it. I much prefer to pay for a game than have ads on the screen. Of course, that doesn't mean I'll pay any price for a game on my phone or tablet. I do like, however, to be able to test a game without having to pay. So, generally games that have a free version for trial are the ones I pay for the most if I like the gameplay.
    6. Don't really play these type of games.
    7. Single player.
    8. Most from the Android Market. Some from Amazon.
    9. Not really. I play games for the fun of it, not for competition. Besides, I quit Facebook since I started using Google+!
    10. Absolutely!

    I hope this is helpful and not too long-winded! LOL
    I choose Android...it's only logical.
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    As an android apps developer I would be very interested to get some feedback on the following points:

    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    Easy enough.

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    Usually recommendations.

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    I haven't run into it enough.

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    I usually know what the game is about when I get it.

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    If I like the game and it is reasonably priced.

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    I have that type of game, but never played that way.

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    Mutilplayer games that I don't have to pass my phone around with.

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    Android market

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    I don't care about that

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?

    Yes, I do.
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    I really don't look for new apps all that often - I rely on reading news and reviews on sites like this, podcasts, etc. I tend to find the apps that I need and tend to stick with them.

    As for the rest of your questions, I never play games on my phone. I have neither the time nor the inclination.
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    I think you should have used a google docs form for this, would have made sifting through it a lot easier =)

    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    New apps? Yeah. Good apps? Not really.


    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    Recommendations.

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    No server backup (not everyone wants/can root their phone), Poor UI, followed by force close.

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    Wing it unless I get annoyed.

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    If it has an appealing idea that I can try, has heavy recommendations by everyone, and ideally, has a demo of some sort so I really know if I want to shell out for it.

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    No

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    Depends, mostly single player. But I like games like words with friends in terms of "multiplayer"

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    Android Market

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    Don't care.

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?

    Yes
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Yes, and read blogs/reviews for more suggestions

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    Depends how badly I want a new game/how much free time I have

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    Well, force close is a show-stopper, but beyond that, bad controls

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    Some of both, depends on the complexity of the game. A built-in tutorial during the initial level/gameplay is ideal

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    Preferably, after having played a fully-featured demo that convinced me I'll love the game. Else, on the strength of reviews in blog posts, etc

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    If the game is compelling enough, but not often

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?
    Single

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?
    Amazon (FAotD), Android Market

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?
    NO!

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
    Yes
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    1. I don't really search the marker all that much.. I usually get tipped off by AC, Phandroid, Android Authority, BGR or some other tech site.
    2. I'll usually go to top categories (top grossing, top free, top paid) and look for apps that way.
    3. Force close
    4. I usually just wing it
    5. When I try a free version and happen to like it i'll pay for it. Reasonably priced as well..
    6. I have games like that but never use it in that way.
    7. I play more single player but multiplayer are good just don't want to pass the phone around like you said.
    8. Mostly the market. I download just the free apps of the day for amazon.
    9. I don't have facebook but if it implemented with Google+ I would.
    10. I usually will recommend some to friends but a lot of my friends could careless since they aren't as insane about smartphones as I am lol..
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Not as easy as I'd like. I watch the Android Central Editor's choices for good picks. I also scan through suggested apps on AppBrain and often look at the related apps as well.
    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    I search categories when I'm looking. I prefer strategy games to tests of reflexes.
    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    I find two things the most annoying: 1) Using a lot of resources, and 2) Bugs/Errors especially those that cause forced closes.
    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    A little of both: I read the basics and then wing it from there.
    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    I'd always like to have a fully playable demo version (of the first few levels or such) with the option to buy after I'd tried it out.
    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    No.
    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?
    I prefer single-player as I'm usually by myself when I need to entertain myself.
    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?
    AppBrain / Android Market
    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?
    Not in particular.
    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
    Always.
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    1. Not really. Wish the sorting/filtering was more advanced.

    2. Recommendations

    3. I get very annoyed when games look different than the screenshots in the description. Even further annoyed when games don't have screenshots/videos.

    4. WING IT!

    5. If the free version had a good amount of levels (not just 3 and then buy pro for the rest 997), was fun to play, and was less than a buck.

    6. Nope

    7. Single player

    8. Exclusively Android Market

    9. Nope, but I like games that have an internal multiplayer score system, meaning I can race or compete my score with other players that play the game under their pseudonym.

    10. Definitely
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    Default Re: Bit of market research

    Answering you as payback to the fine staff at AC

    As an android apps developer I would be very interested to get some feedback on the following points:

    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Yes and no.. I find the Market will sometimes point out useful apps to me, but probably more often I learn about great games or apps/utilities I wouldn't otherwise know about due to sites reviewing them, such as AC, forum members, or folks on Twitter.
    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    More often I rely on recommendations.
    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    More often I find games just bore me, either because the controls aren't optimized or level design is not up to par. I enjoy puzzle/strategy type games and some word games, so with the former category it takes a lot to find the right mix that will really engross me and make me want to complete the game, espcially going for "3 stars" in every level, or what have you.
    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    Almost always read them, like 98% of the time.
    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    I need to read some great reviews (both on sites and market reviews themselves), the price has to be reasonable, and I want to see a video of the game in action and see if it looks like something I'll pay to play (usually easy to find, AC includes videos with their reviews and most market games have started to as well)
    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    Never have.
    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?
    Single.
    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?
    Android market. When I got my first android phone last year I made the mistake of thinking Amazon was just as good.. won't do that again, I want updates when they are available, and you get them on android market first.
    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?
    Never really saw the need for that, pretty useless and waste of memory/data.
    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
    Yes I have often for ones I really like

    Hope that helps!
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    1. Easy enough but I don't try very hard.

    2. Mostly recommendations.

    3. Too much "decoration" getting in the way of seeing what's going on. A noisy screen is not a happy screen. Adverts blocking critical areas of the screen or being placed too close to where you need to click (and thus a constant false-hit).

    4. Read the instructions.

    5. Generally not more than a few dollars.

    6. no

    7. Single player

    8. Android market (exclusively)

    9. Not only no but hell no. I won't touch a game that posts my scores anywhere else.

    10. yes
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    1. No
    2. Both
    3. Force close
    4. Just wing it
    5. When it is the best of its genre
    6. No
    7. Doesn't matter
    8. Android Market
    9. Doesn't matter
    10. Yes
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    Mostly I do

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    Usually recommendations from friends

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    small size in market..huge 48 MB download after..just let me play!

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    Instructions are not required.

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    If the game is long enough to warrant more than 4 hours play time without constant repetition (see angry birds) games like Sentinel 3. asphalt, NOVA. with a great story i'll drop $$ for

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    Get your grubby hands off my phone..when was the last time you washed those? So...no I guess

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    Mutilplayer games that I don't have to pass my phone around with.

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    Android market

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    Not a bias either way. I don't ever use it though. Like to keep my feeds clean

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?

    Yes
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?

    It's gotten Better

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?

    Search Categories; i like to judge a game myself

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?

    Poor Graphics, Bad game play, No Story Line ( RPG Games ... etc )

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?

    I dont like to spend that extra time, i wing it for the most part

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).

    If I like the game, and like to story line ( aka like Galaxy On Fire + Majesty: Fantasy Sim )

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?

    I have that type of game, dont play it often unless in the car with a long ride. ( Card game )

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    Both!

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    Android market

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    Dont care much for that.

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?

    Yes, I do.

    Good Luck Developing!
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Not really.

    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    Mainly recommendations from friends and sites like AndroidCentral. Sometimes I'll manually search through the categories if I'm bored.

    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    Poor graphics or incompatibility across my devices

    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    Wing it until I'm stuck.

    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    When the price is in line with quality, I'll pay. Especially if I can play it on both my phone and tablet.

    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    No

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?
    Prefer single player because sometimes waiting for others gets annoying

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?
    Android Market - faster updates.

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?
    Don't really care.

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
    Yes
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    1. I liked the skin and layout of the old android market better. Android market is still easy to find new apps.
    2. I read a bunch of user reviews before I purchase a game. I try to make sure it's compatible with my phone, from the user reviews.
    3. Force close, and if the game runs sluggish / choppy. Games should be written to run smoothly on dual core phones (since that is now becoming the norm)
    4. If it's a sophisticated game, I'll read the instructions (like Risk). If not, I usually wing it.
    5. I would pay for a game only if it had a lot of great user reviews. I'm hesistant to pay for a game because of the crappy short time span of 15 min in which I can get a refund. Sometimes, by the time I download (or update) the game, it's more than 15 min and I get screwed. The refund policy should be at least 24 hours. You can't download, update, and play a game within 15 min and decide if you still want it. We need more time.
    6. No, because I've never DL'd a game like that before. But if we had RISK, I'd pass the game around.
    7. Single Player. If you want MP go play on your gaming PC.
    8. Usually android market. I don't game a lot.
    9. No. Who cares about uploading scores to FB. Waste of time.
    10. Absolutely.
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    1. Do you find it easy to discover new apps on the Android Market?
    Yes but I tend to utilize the trending section most often followed by the staff picks, and Editors choice
    2. Do you rely on recommendations or do you search categories to find new games?
    recommendations only, there are too many resource hogs in the bunch to go looking for games.
    3. What is the most annoying problem with a new game e.g. force close, poor graphics?
    both of those suck, but I really dislike it if I notice other things start to act funny after installing an app then it magically cures after I uninstall.
    4. Do you read the instructions on how to play or just Wing it?
    I like to be informed on the how to versus guessing. Its important for it to be intuitive enough that you only need to see how to do it once.
    5. When would you pay for a game? (Other than mobile versions of best selling PC/PSP etc games).
    usually only after playing some sort of trial version.
    6. Do you play games where multiplayer involves passing the handset round?
    I don't currently but in the right scenario for the right game it could be fun.

    7. Do you prefer single player or multiplayer games?

    8. Where do you download most of your games i.e. Android market, Amazon, GetJar?

    9. Do you like games where you can upload your scores to Facebook or other websites?

    10. Do you recommend games you like to friends?
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    1)Not much. I mostly rely on other media to discover new apps.

    2)I rarely search the categories.

    3)The game itself is the most important thing by far. It needs to have a good design. Graphics aren't much important as long as they don't look like drawn in paint.

    4)I usually read the instructions if there are any, but gameplay tutorials are better. (for example you learn the most basic mechanics in level 1 then learn the more advanced dynamics in following levels.)

    5)When I hear lots of positive comments on it or when I try the free version and like it.

    6)Yes.

    7)I always prefer multiplayer actually, but it has not yet developed much in the mobile industry. I wish more games had multiplayer option.

    8) Mostly Android Market, sometimes GetJar as well.

    9)It's a nice feature to have as long as it's optional, but I very rarely use it.

    10)Yes.
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