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  1. milominderbinde's Avatar
    KEY SPECIFICATIONS

    NOTES
    Apps: Specific apps/compatible apps - For instance, the "0k/6k" for theTouchPad shows no apps specificaly for the tablet yet but 6,000 apps will be compatible. The iPad lacks Adobe Flash.

    HDMI: Allows HD output to a TV or projector for home theater or business presentations.

    microSD: Keep your favorite movies, music, and photos with you. Key to Backups. 16 GB ~$26 - 32 GB ~$55 & 64GB

    Keyboard: The Asus Transform turns into a netbook with the optional keyboard. The HP TouchPad wireless keyboard, Apple iPad keyboard dock and wireless keyboard, Xoom keyboard, and Samsung keyboard are available at an addition cost.

    CPU Speed, dual cores, and memory alone do not show how fast a device will be. Kernel, skins, ROM, and services also affect overall speed.

    Multitasking: Compare Multitasking, Android Multitasking, Apple Multitasking Cards/Video.

    iPhone notifications pop-up and require you to open the app right away. webOS, PlayBook, and Android let you see and respond later.

    Voice Control: Palm Just Type is similar to Android Search and iPhone Spotlight (customize). Android Voice Actions and iPhone Voice Commands accept voice commands.

    Proximity Transfer allows nearby devices to transfer information. Bump (2009) transfers contacts, songs, photos, events, money, friends, and apps between iPhones or Androids. The Nexus S and S 4G and Galaxy S II offer similar 2009 Near Field Communication standards. HP Touch-to-share (2011) transfers URLs, text, or calls between devices with the same HP profile. BlackBerry Bridge (2010) offers similar sharing with a BlackBerry phone.

    Resources:
    Asus Transformer Website - Amazon UK - Android Central: Review - Availability
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    Acer Iconia A500 Official Website - Android Central Review - Best Buy
    Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - Samsung Site - Android Central - Keyboard
    Apple - iPad Official Site - Actually made by Foxconn
    - - Keyboard - Wireless keyboard
    Xoom Official Site - WSJ: Xoom Costs $278 - Bill of Materials
    - - Made by Foxconn - CES: Xoom specs | ZDNet - Keyboard
    - - BGR: XOOM not a flop - Xoom orders drop - zdnet: Sales underwhelming
    Toshiba Official Site - Amazon - Android Central - cnet - Phone Arena
    HP TouchPad Official Site - TouchPad Palm Website
    - - PreCentral.net: TouchPad vs iPad 2 - Review - Ad - Hands-on -Changes
    - - Touchstone Technology Expands: Exhibition, Touch-to-Share
    RIM BlackBerry Playbook - Best Buy - No keyboard option
    - - DOA: PlayBook to Ship Without Mail, Messaging or Contacts
    - - RIM PlayBook's Big Weakness: BlackBerry Required

    Comparisons:
    Spreadsheet
    PDAdb.net Mobile Device Comparison
    iPad 2 vs. Xoom vs. TouchPad vs. PlayBook -Engadget
    Comparison Chart: Motorola XOOM vs. iPad (Updated) - Droid Life
    Apple iPad 2, Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi, HP TouchPad - Phone Arena
    HP TouchPad, 4G PlayBook, Galaxy Tab 4G LTE - Phone Arena
    Phone Arena: Galaxy vs Asus

    See our sister site, TiPb, for more on the iPad and iPad 2 and PreCentral for more on the TouchPad. Also see the Android Getting Started Guide for more on Android features.
    04-08-2011 03:03 PM
  2. Complex Pants's Avatar
    No positive for the Touch Pads CPU?
    04-08-2011 06:19 PM
  3. milominderbinde's Avatar
    No positive for the Touch Pads CPU?
    This avoids comparing processors as noted in the opening post. Last fall we compared 1.2 Ghz overclocked Pre+'s to 1Ghz Android's in real world tests and it was not even close. An interpreter has no chance against optimized compiled code. Much slower CPU BlackBerry's and iPhone's were 2-3 times faster.

    CPU speed can be a good indicator when comparing devices with the same OS and skins. But that is not our case here. The other performance factors are just as important if not more so.
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    04-08-2011 06:46 PM
  4. Complex Pants's Avatar
    Fair enough. :-)
    04-08-2011 06:59 PM
  5. silvra7's Avatar
    Does the xoom really have DLNA?
    04-08-2011 08:02 PM
  6. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Does the xoom really have DLNA?
    Yep and HDMI.
    04-08-2011 09:45 PM
  7. silvra7's Avatar
    yeah I see the HDMI port, but saw no settings for DLNA
    04-08-2011 09:50 PM
  8. milominderbinde's Avatar
    yeah I see the HDMI port, but saw no settings for DLNA
    Phone Arena and other sites show DLNA. Do you ahve a Xoom? Can you confirm that it does not have DLNA?
    04-08-2011 10:23 PM
  9. silvra7's Avatar
    yes I have a xoom. To be frank I don't know too much about DLNA specifically and I saw there is a thread on here about it but you have to download third party apps? So it may have DLNA but it's not supported by either Google or Motorola as there is no app or no setting that I could see and it's not listed on the tech specs on the Motorola site.
    04-08-2011 10:27 PM
  10. milominderbinde's Avatar
    Thank you!

    The Moto site in January did say DLNA but it has been removed!

    So either it has yet to be enabled or never had DLNA.

    Either way, they took it off for now and so did I. The chart is updated to remove DLNA.

    Great feedback. Anything else?
    04-08-2011 10:34 PM
  11. silvra7's Avatar
    well with the HDMI out I think it's worth noting that you have to purchase an accessory for the iPad in addition to a cable for that to work. So far in all the pictures I've seen of the Galaxy Tabs I've not seen an HDMI out either, it actually looks very similar to the iPad in that it's a proprietary connector.
    04-08-2011 10:53 PM
  12. Complex Pants's Avatar
    For the android devices I might mention if they are stock or skinned, depending on how you look at it that could be a plus or a minus.
    04-09-2011 12:37 AM
  13. milominderbinde's Avatar
    The diversity of ROM's and accessories for all these tablets will be staggering. We just can't include all of the permutations. All of these require that you buy HDMI cables to use HDMI out.
    04-09-2011 05:56 PM
  14. Zykhan's Avatar
    Didnt think the Samsung 10.1 had a SD slot, does it?
    04-09-2011 11:23 PM
  15. Complex Pants's Avatar
    One thing I would like to note is that the Samsung 32gb tablet is the same price as the Xoom. Hopefully when the 16gb Xoom is released it will match the Samsung tablet or be cheaper.
    04-10-2011 01:33 PM
  16. milominderbinde's Avatar
    One thing I would like to note is that the Samsung 32gb tablet is the same price as the Xoom...
    It would have helped if the Xoom had a base price option at $499. The Xoom is a great case study.

    Also, the opening post is updated to add the Acer Iconia A500 that will be coming out in just a few days.

    If you are OK with a tablet that is thicker and heavier like the Xoom, the Asus Transformer is $399 and the Acer Iconia A500 is $449.

    If you want a tablet that is thinner, lighter than even the iPad 2 while matching or beating all the other specs, there is the Galaxy 10.1 at $499.

    It is an exciting time!
    04-11-2011 04:13 PM
  17. Complex Pants's Avatar
    It would have helped if the Xoom had a base price option at $499. The Xoom is a great case study.

    Also, the opening post is updated to add the Acer Iconia A500 that will be coming out in just a few days.

    If you are OK with a tablet that is thicker and heavier like the Xoom, the Asus Transformer is $399 and the Acer Iconia A500 is $449.

    If you want a tablet that is thinner, lighter than even the iPad 2 while matching or beating all the other specs, there is the Galaxy 10.1 at $499.

    It is an exciting time!
    I agree, but honestly I will most likely keep my xoom because its price isn't that much off from the 10.1 and I would gladly trade some thinness for a pure honeycomb. But that is just me.
    04-11-2011 04:37 PM
  18. milominderbinde's Avatar
    I agree, but honestly I will most likely keep my xoom because its price isn't that much off from the 10.1 and I would gladly trade some thinness for a pure honeycomb. But that is just me.
    The Acer and Asus websites say that they are the pure Honeycomb. I really hope that most will do that. If they got Honeycomb right, keep it consistent and it will be easy for the manufacturer to update.
    04-11-2011 10:08 PM
  19. zach_alt's Avatar
    The transformer is a better option than the Acer....
    04-12-2011 12:21 AM
  20. Complex Pants's Avatar
    The Acer and Asus websites say that they are the pure Honeycomb. I really hope that most will do that. If they got Honeycomb right, keep it consistent and it will be easy for the manufacturer to update.
    Unless my eyes deceive me, the images of the transformer on the ASUS website is running a skin of honeycomb.

    04-12-2011 07:07 AM
  21. johncihak's Avatar
    Forgot to include screen quality - contrast ration, viewing angle, etc. The iPad screens (and any other IPS screens) have a significant advanatage.

    Netflix compatibility and app availability is also important - although not hardware related
    04-12-2011 09:02 AM
  22. frenzy757's Avatar
    does the galaxy tab have a HDMI/mini port or do you have to use an adapter like the iPad?
    04-12-2011 09:06 AM
  23. milominderbinde's Avatar
    The transformer is a better option than the Acer....
    The Asus Transformer tablet meets all of the Xoom specs and doubles as a netbook. The Transformer has already been Rooted. Amazon UK listing.

    Unless my eyes deceive me, the images of the transformer on the ASUS website is running a skin of honeycomb.
    That image is from a prototype three months ago. Watch the videos. It is Honeycomb:

    Forgot to include screen quality - contrast ration, viewing angle, etc...
    It was on purpose. These specs are not all published and in the end are very subjective to the user's perception. I did go looking for the manufacturers specs. Can you give the links to the contrast specs?

    does the galaxy tab have a HDMI/mini port or do you have to use an adapter like the iPad?
    Yes, the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 has a real port. The iPad 2 needs about $60 in cables. The rest need about $30-40 in cables if purchased from the maker. HDMI cables are not included with any of these tablets and so are not included in the comparison.

    The Asus Transform does include a keyboard that turns it into a netbook so keyboard prices should be included in the comparison.

    At $399 with the netbook keyboard, how can anything compete with the Asus Transform? That's nearly the price of the 7" Samsung.
    04-12-2011 10:01 AM
  24. Complex Pants's Avatar
    Milo, pay attention to the navigation buttons at the bottom of the transformer. They are different than the ones on the Xoom. I could be wrong and things could have changed, but those buttons indicate to me that ASUS has done some OS customization.

    Edit: I checked all of the link you posted and none of them show a clear image of the transformer running a non-skinned version of honeycomb. In fact the hands on demo showed the transformer running a skin. I was hoping the unboxing video would have showed more that just the device turning on.
    04-12-2011 10:13 AM
  25. jnewell's Avatar
    Also, the opening post is updated to add the Acer Iconia A500 that will be coming out in just a few days.
    Question - the Acer @ $449 is WiFi only, not 3G/4G capable? Of course, the Xoom at $599 is either WiFi only, or has a 2-year contract requirement. Maybe there is room for clarification with notes about pricing/contracts? Please don't interpret this as carping about a great comparison chart!
    04-12-2011 11:09 AM
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