37 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

[tewest86]

Finally someone that's not all on Android's d*%&! Why does iphone need removable storage or a removable battery? I still don't get that. You have a 64gb iphone available now. The only time I remove my battery is when this POS ATRIX locks up. Something my iphones never did. Also, how many places in the US uses NFC? And I miss my 3.5 screen. Its made my phone feel good in my hands.

 

[gdbjr]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Actually I don't need to click your research link (glad you know how to use Google though) as I know what I'm speaking about. Show me ONE picture from a 0.3MP camera that is any good. On the flip side I bet anyone can show you a 2MP picture that is fairly decent. So "throwing out MP" isn't the case here. The original point was that 0.3 is lame and it should be 2 or more which is pretty accurate. Not saying all 2MP lenses will produce anything decent but they have a much better chance at covering for a not so great lense when it shoots more pixels. Plus the fact no manufacturer is going to spend any decent amount on a good lense for 0.3MP quality. I've never seen a 0.3MP picture and thought it was a good photo.

I'll end with repeating myself. No 0.3 MP camera is a good camera especially in this day and age. Maybe if this was 1991 then awesome but 2011 uh no!

So now you need to define good for all of us.

A .3 MP camera is capable of producing a good 4"x6" images, this is how they did it back in 1991 and it still holds true. So are your needing to blow up your images to 11"x16"? Are you just using the .3MP images to update your facebook profile? I don't know as your use of good is as vague as you throwing MP around.

Or maybe your wife's hands shakes all the time or she is taking pictures in the dark and that is why those photos turn out so poorly. These are things that make a difference along with the MP. You can argue all you want, but the fact is that MP alone do not make a camera better and if you are claiming that MP alone make the difference (This is about the 4th out I have given you) that we are wasting our time listening to you.

 

[BrianTufo]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

So now you need to define good for all of us.

A .3 MP camera is capable of producing a good 4"x6" images, this is how they did it back in 1991 and it still holds true. So are your needing to blow up your images to 11"x16"? Are you just using the .3MP images to update your facebook profile? I don't know as your use of good is as vague as you throwing MP around.

Or maybe your wife's hands shakes all the time or she is taking pictures in the dark and that is why those photos turn out so poorly. These are things that make a difference along with the MP. You can argue all you want, but the fact is that MP alone do not make a camera better and if you are claiming that MP alone make the difference (This is about the 4th out I have given you) that we are wasting our time listening to you.

Deleted as its not worth the time.

 

[mclarryjr]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

You both have made you points so lets just agree to disagree on the FFC before this gets out of hand. And please don't talk about someone else wife that not cool.

Thanks

 

[Puzzlegal]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Finally someone that's not all on Android's d*%&! Why does iphone need removable storage or a removable battery? I still don't get that. You have a 64gb iphone available now. The only time I remove my battery is when this POS ATRIX locks up. Something my iphones never did. Also, how many places in the US uses NFC? And I miss my 3.5 screen. Its made my phone feel good in my hands.

Well, I was an early adopter of the iPod. After too short a period of time, the battery died. The warranty was short, and Apple offered to replace the battery for about $5 less than the cost of a new iPod. They also suggested I buy a new iPod.

I was one of the first users to experience iPod battery death, so there weren't any 3rd party options. I stopped using the thing, and haven't purchased a device with a non-replaceable battery since. Yes, I guess I hold a grudge. But that's certainly one of the reasons I won't buy an iPhone.

Perhaps a year later I was able to buy a third party battery, and it turned out to be fairly easy to replace the "non-replaceable" battery of the early iPod, but I bet that's not true of the iPhone. The weird proprietary screw Apple uses is an obvious problem.

So now you need to define good for all of us.

A .3 MP camera is capable of producing a good 4"x6" images, this is how they did it back in 1991 and it still holds true. . .

Who the heck used a digital camera back in 1991? It was just an expensive way to take bad photos. Digital cameras didn't come of age until 2-3mb sensors became cheap enough to be standard. The benefits of the increases in MP since then are modest, unless you want to edit or crop your photo, but the benefits from moving to 2mp are huge.

That being said, if the primary purpose of the camera is to take video to stream via face time, the result is going to be compressed down to less than what you can get with .3mb anyway. And the iPhone's outfacing camera is excellent, by all reports.

 

[sep2006]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Interesting list. We have to remember though, most of those features compromise battery life and that is one of apples selling points. That's why I don't hear any of my iOS friends complain about battery life and get the complaints from Android users.

apple is smart for targeting long lasting battery. The average Joe wants to go a full day with decent use on a single use.

I get 2 full days on heavy use with my Captivate (Running 2.3.5 Leak)

 

[JesperSP]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Finally someone that's not all on Android's d*%&! Why does iphone need removable storage or a removable battery? I still don't get that. You have a 64gb iphone available now. The only time I remove my battery is when this POS ATRIX locks up. Something my iphones never did. Also, how many places in the US uses NFC? And I miss my 3.5 screen. Its made my phone feel good in my hands.

I'll tell you the reason why you need replaceable battery and storage:

The extra batteries are really really nice to have if you miss one of your overnight charges (forgetting charger while travelling, sleeping in a tent without electricity) or overuse your phone so it runs out of battery (e.g. shooting a lot of video) and don't have a charger handy or time to recharge. Personally I have 4 batteries for my SGS2 - these took me through a whole extended weekend musical festival, without having to sit and guard my phone while connected to a public charger like all the iPhone people.

With Apples price policy you pay through your nose if you want to get the 64GB iPhone (Price in Denmark : 16GB $880, 64GB $1200). You can get a 64 GB SD card for about $110. If I get fed up with only having 16GB on my SGS2, I can just add a 64GB SD card and enjoy 80GB of space. If I had a 16GB Iphone 4S I would have to sell it and buy a larger iPhone Not giving users the flexibility of potentially adding more storage space if needed seems soo last century to me - but I guess this (and iTunes) is how Apple gets so rich.

I know that you can have your media in the cloud by now, but if you record a lot of 1080p footage, you'll need the extra memory.

just my 2 cents.

 

[JesperSP]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

I'll give you a few hints as to why you can dismiss all of those points for about 95% of potential smartphone consumers, not geeks or nerds like us but normal consumers, you know, the majority of the income source.

ITunes, apps, Facetime. That's it.

Why do you think anyone intelligent in the industry went meh for this launch? You have the reasons they went meh listed as PLUSSES. All improvements which will mean nothing as to why people will always flock to the iPhone.

I'll just point it out again but with no reason whatsoever to think you'll ever understand. ITunes, apps and Facetime.

ITunes crashes my PC - so I avoid it like the plague - having to hook up your "Smartphone" to a computer to transfer music podcasts and videos, and sync Outlook Calendar is so last century. iTunes, and the 30% apple tax on everything, is a negative aspect of iPhone.

With facetime you're limited to only talking to other brainwashed people. You can get Skype and Tango to talk to a wider range of people on both iPhone and Android.

The Apps and the standardized iPod dock (found on most stereos nowadays) is what I'm missing the most on my SGS2.

 

[milominderbinde]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Just fleshing out the opening post a bit more and needed a place to store
more images:

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mp3-music-free.png MP3 Music Download

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accessibility.png → Android's Flashlight Alerts

facetime.png

skype.png → android Skype and ooVoo

Battery_Left-60.png → Battery Left Widget

findmyfriends.png → Google Maps now includes Latitude.

find-my-iphone.png → Wheres My Droid

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siri.png → Vlingo 16 months ago.

icloud.png → Dropbox and Google Docs

 

[gdbjr]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Just fleshing out the opening post a bit more and needed a place to store
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Most android phones have need a replaceable battery. iPhone battery replacements cost $85 and take 3 weeks.

You can get a replacement battery for $30 from many places and have it overnight and replace it yourself.

You will never see an app like MP3 Music Download from Apple because it lets you download songs for free instead of $1.29.

I agree, but you should have used a better example. A lot of reviews for that app claim spam and adds ruin the app.

NFC is still missing from the iPhone 4S.

NFC is missing, but does it really matter? Can you do anythng useful with it?


Facetime does not work over 4G because the iPhone is not 4G on any network.

Misleading. Facetime doesn't work over cellular because the carriers don't want it or can't support it.


Find My iPhone has many of the features in the free


Find My iPhone is also free.

The things I left out are legitimate issues.

 

[milominderbinde]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Adding mor content to the opening post. Using this as a third place to hold images. (The limit is 15 images per post.)

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[milominderbinde]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Most android phones have need a replaceable battery. iPhone battery replacements cost $85 and take 3 weeks.

Can you cite your source? I gave dozens of links for the statements I quoted. I have never needed a replacement battery for an Android.

You will never see an app like MP3 Music Download from Apple because it lets you download songs for free instead of $1.29.

I agree, but you should have used a better example. A lot of reviews for that app claim spam and adds ruin the app.

Can you give us the links to the reviews that say that MP3 Music Download Pro has spam. I have the apps and have not been spammed because of it.

NFC is missing, but does it really matter? Can you do anythng useful with it?

Sure. See the Wikipedia article for a lot of references but in a nutshell: File Sharing, Electronic business card, Mobile gaming, Instant Bluetooth Pairing, Instant WiFi Configuration, Point of Sale, Coupons, Tour guide, etc.

NFC enabled phones just went past a 10 million installed base. There is too much money to be made for the banks and carriers not to make the push.

Misleading. Facetime doesn't work over cellular because the carriers don't want it or can't support it.

It's not the carrier. Sprint pre-installs Qik on many phones with 3G and 4G enabled. Others pre-install Skype. Right now 4G Video Calls are enabled on Android phones on AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.

The 34 features missing from the iPhone 4S are valid. As I noted, not all will matter to everyone.

A phone is like shoes. Get the one that fits you. If you have small enough hands, you should definitely consider an iPhone.

 

[milominderbinde]

Re: 25 Features Still Missing From the iPhone 4S

Just an icon placeholder, scratchpad

4G

Accessibility (Flashlight Alerts)

Airplay Video Mirroring via Apple TV using AirPlay.

Amazon MP3

Android Market

Anipet Aquarium Live Wallpaper

App2SD

Battery Left Widget

Earth Live Wallpaper

Facebook

Facetime but with real megapixel cameras

Flash

Find my Friends → Latitude

Getjar

Google Maps

iCloud →

Dropbox

Documents in the Cloud →

Google Docs

Settings

MyAppSharer

Notifications → Executive Assistant

Itunes →

Google Music →

MP3 Music Download

Near Field Communication see the Google NFC Demo.

Siri →

Vlingo.

Swype and other Keyboards

SwiftKey

Theming with AWD.Launcher

Visual Voicemail

Video Chat: Qik, Skype and ooVoo give free unlimited video calls over WiFi, 3G and 4G.

Settings
Apple has a Settings link to the settings menus. With Android you can set up a Settings folder with links to your key settings as well as settings apps.