[Ry]

Last I checked, you could patent an "improvement" on an existing idea.

Apple files a patent for something related to wireless charging. Suddenly it's ok to say things like "Apple thinks they invented wireless charging".

Right.

Again, we don't know the details of this patent. No need to jump to conclusions.

But if your hate for one corporation and love for another corporation consumes you that much, by all means - post away.

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[badbrad17]

Last I checked, you could patent an "improvement" on an existing idea.

Apple files a patent for something related to wireless charging. Suddenly it's ok to say things like "Apple thinks they invented wireless charging".

Right.

Again, we don't know the details of this patent. No need to jump to conclusions.

But if your hate for one corporation and love for another corporation consumes you that much, by all means - post away.

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I can't argue with that Ry. But for what it's worth the patent on the wireless charging was a very small part of the long list of posts in this thread. I'd like to see someone find that many negative posts on Google.

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[Slender Troll]

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[Slender Troll]

Props to this guy for knowing how to sell an iPad:



Hint: if you watch carefully at 4:24-4:26, you will see his left ring finger move to activate the animation.

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[JHBThree]

I will once again say that you don't know me. I am basing my comment on every post I have ever seen you write on AC which is some type of Defense of Apple. I give Apple credit for the quality products they make. Search my posts for proof. But Apple as a company are a bunch of slanty scumbags. Steve Jobs was an a** to his employees and his philosophy and legacy continue on even after he has gone. They sue and hurt innovation and honest people. They call their competitors thieves then steal from others. If this is how all companies are supposed to run then I feel sorry for humanity. Find me a case where Google, Microsoft or IBM are sueing small businesses like a school or apple Orchard over some petty thing that means nothing. It doesnt exist. It's not about what is legally right it's about what is good. Google may not be perfect but they have proven that they will do what is good and not be evil. They recently had an opportunity to sue Apple via Motorola held patents. Yet even after a judge said that they had a case they opted to drop they case to little fan fare. Apple drops nothing. They sue sue sue. They are greedy to a fault. It's not about the quality of their products for me, it's about the integrity to make a purposeful impact on society regardless of financial gain. Any company that is as big as Apple that would waste so much energy hurting innocent people in the name of corporate gain don't deserve the success they have had.

And you sir support them with blind abandon for what reason?

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Thanks for proving you're just an angry fanboy upset that a company is defending its IP. I've been around here far longer than you, and it's clear you haven't paid any attention to my posting history, despite your claims to the contrary.

I do not support or hate any company. I respond when I see people thinking with their rear ends instead of the brain they were born with, and that includes defending apple, google, or any other company that comes under attack by the likes of you for no rational reason. Nothing deserves the constant stream of hatred that you and others here like to throw at apple, Microsoft and others. All the behaviors you identify above have been exhibited by all of the companies I've mentioned, google included. None are angels, and none are as evil as you seem to want them to be.

So here's a tip: even though this is an android site, it isn't an echo chamber. You post fanboy bs, you'll get called on it, just like anyone else here. Do step outside your bubble and join the rest of us, won't you?

[JHBThree]

I will once again say that you don't know me. I am basing my comment on every post I have ever seen you write on AC which is some type of Defense of Apple. I give Apple credit for the quality products they make. Search my posts for proof. But Apple as a company are a bunch of slanty scumbags. Steve Jobs was an a** to his employees and his philosophy and legacy continue on even after he has gone. They sue and hurt innovation and honest people. They call their competitors thieves then steal from others. If this is how all companies are supposed to run then I feel sorry for humanity. Find me a case where Google, Microsoft or IBM are sueing small businesses like a school or apple Orchard over some petty thing that means nothing. It doesnt exist. It's not about what is legally right it's about what is good. Google may not be perfect but they have proven that they will do what is good and not be evil. They recently had an opportunity to sue Apple via Motorola held patents. Yet even after a judge said that they had a case they opted to drop they case to little fan fare. Apple drops nothing. They sue sue sue. They are greedy to a fault. It's not about the quality of their products for me, it's about the integrity to make a purposeful impact on society regardless of financial gain. Any company that is as big as Apple that would waste so much energy hurting innocent people in the name of corporate gain don't deserve the success they have had.

And you sir support them with blind abandon for what reason?

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Oh, and just for good measure: the only reason google dropped the case against apple was the impending antitrust investigations into Motorola's patent licensing behavior that could significantly impact their patent portfolio. No company drops a suit out of the goodness of their heart, google included.

[Slender Troll]

Ok enough. I would rather keep this thread open than have it closed because of two people arguing over small items.

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[badbrad17]

Thanks for proving you're just an angry fanboy upset that a company is defending its IP. I've been around here far longer than you, and it's clear you haven't paid any attention to my posting history, despite your claims to the contrary.

I do not support or hate any company. I respond when I see people thinking with their rear ends instead of the brain they were born with, and that includes defending apple, google, or any other company that comes under attack by the likes of you for no rational reason. Nothing deserves the constant stream of hatred that you and others here like to throw at apple, Microsoft and others. All the behaviors you identify above have been exhibited by all of the companies I've mentioned, google included. None are angels, and none are as evil as you seem to want them to be.

So here's a tip: even though this is an android site, it isn't an echo chamber. You post fanboy bs, you'll get called on it, just like anyone else here. Do step outside your bubble and join the rest of us, won't you?

Sorry Slender Troll ;-)

If I am such a fanboy, why would I create this thread?
Android Tablets are Laggy compared to the iPad and Windows 8 tablet.

I have read so many of your posts and 80% are all in defense of Apple for various things. Maybe that is just a fluke. You obviously love technology as I do. All of my posts are not to bash Apple and I certainly don't want this to be a personal attack on you. So peace offering. I will try to be as civil as I can ;-)

In all fairness to this thread, these are all newsworthy posts that you can choose to agree with or disagree with. If you feel that Google is also guilty of these kind of behaviors then please show it to me as I would just as easily thrash them if they are acting in kind. Don't just say that Google is as guilty and have nothing to back it up. I own a graphic design company and own many Mac computers. I can judge Apple any way I like from an unbiased perspective. That doesn;t automatically make me a fanboy. I said their products are not the problem. It is how they run their company that I dislike. And the massive amounts of posts prove that they are scum. I am entitled to that opinion based on the evidence found in mass quantities online.

And I am not saying that Apple shouldn't defend their IP, but a small apple orchard or a school are not anything to defend against. I'm just saying that it would be nice for them to choose the real threats rather than burying innocent companies in money and legal paperwork. It's stupid and doesn't benefit their IP in any way. The company that was using an "Apple" for their "Apple orchard" created it when Apple was almost bankrupt. It was a cheap piece of clip art for crying out loud. What should they use for their logo? A tomato? The fact that the logo depicts what they do is of no threat to Apple in any way. If you think this is how companies should act then I am sorry for you. I think Apple can continue to do great things without stomping on the little people.

[badbrad17]

Oh, and just for good measure: the only reason google dropped the case against apple was the impending antitrust investigations into Motorola's patent licensing behavior that could significantly impact their patent portfolio. No company drops a suit out of the goodness of their heart, google included.

Do you have any proof to back this up?

[badbrad17]

Do you have any proof to back this up?

Still waiting. :banghead:

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[badbrad17]

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[Slender Troll]

Your link is broken.

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[badbrad17]

Weird works for me.



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[Slender Troll]

Wierd indeed. I just read the article though. I have to agree with the Korean guy saying that Apple would rather ""compete through the courts rather than the marketplace," and [is] using the courts to conduct a smear campaign."

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[Slender Troll]

Now this is total bullcrap:

Android Central (@androidcentral) tweeted at 7:40 AM on Fri, Dec 07, 2012:
Ice Cream Sandwich finally hits LG Optimus 2X #android
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[Slender Troll]

Finally! Some progress is being made.

http://m.androidcentral.com/apple-s-...medium=twitter

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[JHBThree]

Finally! Some progress is being made.

http://m.androidcentral.com/apple-s-...medium=twitter

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Clarification: there is no such thing as a tentative invalidation. The USPTO issued a tentative rejection of the claims, which may or may not lead to invalidation. As Engadget noted in their coverage, it's the first step towards invalidation, but apple will get to respond and could narrow the scope of the patent in order to stop it from being invalidated. It's very similar to what happened with the bounce back patent:

[badbrad17]

Clarification: there is no such thing as a tentative invalidation. The USPTO issued a tentative rejection of the claims, which may or may not lead to invalidation. As Engadget noted in their coverage, it's the first step towards invalidation, but apple will get to respond and could narrow the scope of the patent in order to stop it from being invalidated. It's very similar to what happened with the bounce back patent:

I agree but what would you like to see happen with this patent?

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[JHBThree]

I agree but what would you like to see happen with this patent?

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Significant narrowing of scope.

[badbrad17]

Significant narrowing of scope.

I'm not sure what that means.

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[The Real X Dawg]

I'm not sure what that means.

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I would guess that he means Apple would have to be more specific about what actions that patent covers. Instead of being too general. I could be wrong as I'm a sports nerd first.

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[JHBThree]

Making the patent so narrow that only the exact implementation apple uses would be patented.

[Shadowriver]

Spreaking of "Apple implementations", Apple got there multitouch solutions from acquired company called Fingerworks in 2005 which operated since 1999:

Various companies expanded upon these inventions in the beginning of the twenty-first century. The company Fingerworks developed various multi-touch technologies between 1999 and 2005, including Touchstream keyboards and the iGesture Pad. Several studies of this technology were published in the early 2000s by Alan Hedge, professor of human factors and ergonomics at Cornell University.[10][11][12] Apple acquired Fingerworks and its multi-touch technology in 2005. Mainstream exposure to multi-touch technology occurred in 2007 when the iPhone gained popularity, with Apple stating they 'invented multi touch' as part of the iPhone announcement,[13] however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests, except for such area of application as capacitive mobile screens, which did not exist before Fingerworks/Apple's technology (Fingerworks filed patents in 2001-2005[14], subsequent multitouch refinements were patented by Apple[15]).

So Apple actually might have fair right for those implementations

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[JHBThree]

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We'll see. Analysts are frequently wrong when it comes to apple. (And google for that matter)