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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    How so?
    Its literally a newer version of tegra 3. That's about it. That's why OEMs are reluctant to use it.

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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    Its literally a newer version of tegra 3. That's about it. That's why OEMs are reluctant to use it.

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    Of course its new, its built on a better and newer process, contains 6x more powerful cores than tegra 3, uses next generation on CPU and can support Opengl 3.0. Whats not so revolutionary about that? Its many steps up to tegra 3

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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by AndroidS3 View Post
    Of course its new, its built on a better and newer process, contains 6x more powerful cores than tegra 3, uses next generation on CPU and can support Opengl 3.0. Whats not so revolutionary about that? Its many steps up to tegra 3

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    Its not a revolutionary chip by any stretch of the imagination. What you just described is iterative, evolutionary change.

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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    Its not a revolutionary chip by any stretch of the imagination. What you just described is iterative, evolutionary change.

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    Nah, what Qualcomm announced at CES is evolutionary and iterative. No process change, no architecture change.

    What nVidia announced with Tegra 4 was an all-new architecture (based on the A15 design), a process shrink, AND a new LTE modem to go along with it. Evolutionary was when they started releasing higher clocked Tegra 3 chips.

    Oh, let's also not forget that they came up with their own way of doing image processing that resulted in the first real-time HDR photo taking. Yeah, nothing revolutionary there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    Nah, what Qualcomm announced at CES is evolutionary and iterative. No process change, no architecture change.

    What nVidia announced with Tegra 4 was an all-new architecture (based on the A15 design), a process shrink, AND a new LTE modem to go along with it. Evolutionary was when they started releasing higher clocked Tegra 3 chips.

    Oh, let's also not forget that they came up with their own way of doing image processing that resulted in the first real-time HDR photo taking. Yeah, nothing revolutionary there....

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    We're going to have to agree to disagree. Both qualcomm and nvidia are iterating right now. There won't be anything revolutionary for quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    We're going to have to agree to disagree. Both qualcomm and nvidia are iterating right now. There won't be anything revolutionary for quite some time.

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    What would it take for you to consider something revolutionary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    What would it take for you to consider something revolutionary?

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    The Exynos Octa would be the closest, but even that is borderline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    The Exynos Octa would be the closest, but even that is borderline.

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    Except that nVidia had that concept first, it just wasn't marketed as such by ARM. The companion core is the little in big.LITTLE.

    I'm not trying to make this nVidia vs everybody else, but if you're going to consider the octa "close" to revolutionary then it's hard to dispute the Tegra 4 as being at least the same.

    Just like Intel has tick-tock, with the tick being the "revolution" and tock being "evolution" then the switch to A15 is a tick, with the tock coming later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    Except that nVidia had that concept first, it just wasn't marketed as such by ARM. The companion core is the little in big.LITTLE.

    I'm not trying to make this nVidia vs everybody else, but if you're going to consider the octa "close" to revolutionary then it's hard to dispute the Tegra 4 as being at least the same.

    Just like Intel has tick-tock, with the tick being the "revolution" and tock being "evolution" then the switch to A15 is a tick, with the tock coming later.

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    The Octa uses its cores in a completely different, and much more advanced way than nvidias companion core. It is literally a processor within a processor and has a huge amount of flexibility in how they're used. The companion core is inflexible in comparison.

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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    The Octa uses its cores in a completely different, and much more advanced way than nvidias companion core. It is literally a processor within a processor and has a huge amount of flexibility in how they're used. The companion core is inflexible in comparison.

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    Not really. It's just a lower power, lower performance core that takes it's place in the voltage table that the kernel/OS makes calls to. So yes, it uses them differently (nVidia doesn't require anything out of the kernel/OS for the companion core to work), but it's not really any more flexible. As far as battery life we're playing a wait and see for both chips.

    The big.LITTLE concept as a whole is very flexible, but Samsung chose the most obvious route of using low power, lower performance cores paired with higher powered, higher performance cores. nVidia took the route of all A15, but the companion core runs at a much lower clock and consumes less power than the "traditional" cores in the main chip.

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    The Octa uses its cores in a completely different, and much more advanced way than nvidias companion core. It is literally a processor within a processor and has a huge amount of flexibility in how they're used. The companion core is inflexible in comparison.

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    Lol. You make yourself look ignorant by talking nonsense. Clearly you have your facts wrong.

    The fact is Octa is going to use it's processing cores in largely the same way as any other chip under the big.LITTLE plan. The more powerful cores handle bigger tasks, and when the OS signals it's using less power, the load is switched to the smaller cores. It's the same basic concept everywhere. Heterogeneous multiprocessing. Samsung is not doing anything revolutionary. They are using four Cortex A15 cores and four Cortex A7 cores to make the Octa. That's it dude.

    Like Kevin says, the only difference is the Tegra uses lower clocked A15 cores for it's little cores. Read up a little before you make wild conjectures.

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    Default Re: So what does everyone think of Tegra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Lol. You make yourself look ignorant by talking nonsense. Clearly you have your facts wrong.

    The fact is Octa is going to use it's processing cores in largely the same way as any other chip under the big.LITTLE plan. The more powerful cores handle bigger tasks, and when the OS signals it's using less power, the load is switched to the smaller cores. It's the same basic concept everywhere. Heterogeneous multiprocessing. Samsung is not doing anything revolutionary. They are using four Cortex A15 cores and four Cortex A7 cores to make the Octa. That's it dude.

    Like Kevin says, the only difference is the Tegra uses lower clocked A15 cores for it's little cores. Read up a little before you make wild conjectures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    Thanks for repeating me. I was more polite.
    I'm more rude. 'Spose that's why I'll never be a mod- I don't have the patience to deal with certain types of folks. Mainly people who repeatedly insist their point of view is right after multiple attempts to politely correct them have already been made. Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    I'm more rude. 'Spose that's why I'll never be a mod- I don't have the patience to deal with certain types of folks. Mainly people who repeatedly insist their point of view is right after multiple attempts to politely correct them have already been made. Meh.

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    No one forces you to reply. Your rudeness and lack of patience for "certain types of folks" could be considered flaming.

    This thread needs to get back on topic. I was enjoying it.

    Overall I think the Octa and Tegra 4 are great next-gen chips with one major exception, the GPU. The GPU in the Octa just isn't up to snuff for what's supposed to be a flagship processor that will undoubtedly power Samsung's next line of flagship phones. While it's no slouch, I'm sure, it's not at the same level as what nVidia is doing (this is all based on what we know, and obviously we have no examples of real world scenarios for the Octa). We can see the benefit of the GPU nVidia built in the videos they are doing demonstrating the prowess of the Tegra 4 in Project Shield. It looks impressive. Unfortunately I didn't get to personally play with one, but everyone I've talked to has said it's just as impressive as they're making it out to be.

    I just wish that Samsung, with all their money and R&D, could do something more with all the power of the Octa besides running Touchwiz. It's such a waste.
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    Originally tegra 4 was meant to be released last year, but apparently it had design flaws therefore it was put back until 2013. Nvidia definitely designed it first l

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