Chromebooks are awful. And here are some examples why.

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I totally agree. I know there is a market for it. It just doesn't appear to be a big market.

Chrome books appear to be competing with low end laptops. But people strapped for cash would, IMO, rather have a device that does more for the same price. People who just want a lighter laptop but have money will probably buy an ultrabook instead too.

The only way I even know these are selling is through the Internet. If it wasn't for that I'd barely know they exist.
 
But people strapped for cash would, IMO, rather have a device that does more for the same price.


Why are you deciding what "people strapped for cash" would rather have? Who gave you that right?

People strapped for cash would like whatever it is what they would like. If that's a Chromebook, so be it.
 
Have you considered purchasing an ultrabook? It would do everything you want and it would do it well.

I find it funny that you would rather have two devices - both of which are just okay at what they do - instead of just one device that's superior than both. But it comes down to personal preference, really.

Both of my machines are great for what they do, where an Ultrabook would only be an okay replacement for my ASUS. They would admittedly be just as portable as my Chromebook, but I would still need want a more powerful machine. Instead of buying a $1,200 gaming laptop and a $700 Ultrabook, I chose to buy a $1,200 gaming laptop and a $250 Chromebook.

I did look at ultrabooks when I bought my ASUS. What I really wanted was desktop level power in a package that didn't take up the space of a desktop since I live in a small apartment and don't have a dedicated desk space. Not a single ultrabook is as powerful as my machine, and I was willing to drop upto $2500 on one that was. I've got a quad core i7, GTX 765MX graphics, 8 GB of RAM (with two slots still empty for expansion), two hard drive bays (both of which I use), and a large screen (as I said, I don't have a desk area where I could have an external monitor set up). No ultrabook would play games at the level I wanted. Not a single one, even today. They would have been okay at it, but not excellent. My ASUS is excellent at the purposes I purchased it for, an Ultrabook would only have been okay, not great as your post implies. Not to mention I wanted a full SSD boot drive, not a caching SSD, so I would have had to frequently plug an external hard drive into the ultrabook, which while doable, is a hassle. I would have had to spend double what I spent on my ASUS to get an ultrabook that preformed at 2/3-3/4 the performance of my machine. I really wanted an Ultrabook because of the power and portability, but after shopping for 3-4 months, I decided I was better served by two machines, one designed to be a giant powerhouse and another designed to be an ultraportable low power machine, than I would be by one that tried to strike a balance between the two. I recognize that I am in a minority in that respect, but I am also far from the only one.

As far as an ultrabook being better than a Chromebook, well, yes, an ultrabook is more capable than a Chromebook. I'm not arguing otherwise. What I am arguing is the I personally wanted a device that was more "work-centric" than a tablet, inexpensive, and ultra-portable. A Chromebook does everything I need from that device, so why spend the extra on an Ultrabook? For people who have and need desktops or large laptops, but want something portable to complement that, a Chromebook is a good option. I didn't need a second Windows machine. I didn't want a cheap Windows machine because they are rarely any good. My Chromebook gets decent battery life, is light and portable, was very cheap, and does everything I wanted. There is no $250 Windows laptop that would have done everything I wanted as well as my Chromebook does.
I totally agree. I know there is a market for it. It just doesn't appear to be a big market.

Chrome books appear to be competing with low end laptops. But people strapped for cash would, IMO, rather have a device that does more for the same price. People who just want a lighter laptop but have money will probably buy an ultrabook instead too.

The only way I even know these are selling is through the Internet. If it wasn't for that I'd barely know they exist.
It really, really depends on people's use cases. If someone has low demands for their laptop, either because they aren't a power user or have a desktop that they already use as a work station, a Chromebook can be just as good as or better than a cheap Windows laptop. Now, for someone who is a mid to power user and wants a single machine, a Chromebook wouldn't be a good choice. I think a large portion of college students would be just fine with only a Chromebook, especially for the first year or two when they may still be figuring out their major and thus what they will need from a higher powered machine.
As I said above, Ultrabooks are great for a lot of people. I got an i3 powered ultrabook for my wife (who honestly does not do a single thing on it she couldn't do on a Chromebook that cost half as much). However, ultrabooks have drawbacks too. They are not as powerful as larger machines. They also tend to be more expensive than similarly powerful but less portable machines. These are not deal breakers for many, many people, but they are drawbacks none the less.

I am done in this thread. Actual owners of these machines who have actual uses cases where a Chromebook acutally suits our real world needs better than a Windows laptop have told you our uses and reasons. If you want to think we are full of it, fine, but I have decided you guys can't be (or don't want to be) convinced that Chromebooks can be very good choices. They make great second machines that do very different things than a tablet. They are great for people with low demand computer use. I love having my files in the cloud because I can access them on any computer, home or away, without having to carry around a flashdrive or external hard drive.
 
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I don't have the right to express an opinion on a public forum? When did that happen?

I understand exactly what you said. Perhaps you need to more carefully choose your words.

Adding "IMO" doesn't change the fact that you're still deciding how other people want to spend their own money.
 
I understand exactly what you said. Perhaps you need to more carefully choose your words.
"In My Opinion" was not clear enough? LOL

What part of my post made you think I was trying to tell people what to buy?

Adding "IMO" doesn't change the fact that you're still deciding how other people want to spend their own money.
So you are officially forbidding opinions on here now?
 
"In My Opinion" was not clear enough? LOL

What part of my post made you think I was trying to tell people what to buy?


So you are officially forbidding opinions on here now?

Maybe you need to learn the difference between "rather" and "should" and which one is appropriate for conveying your message.

Just thought you should know since you're trying to school me about what IMO means.

And still: Why does it matter to you what someone prefers or spends their money on? How does it hurt you if someone chooses a Chromebook over a traditional PC?

You say this place is for discussion, so discuss your answers to those questions.
 
Maybe you need to learn the difference between "rather" and "should" and which one is appropriate for conveying your message.
How would that have changed what I said either way? It would still be an opinion. Not a command. I am not sure why my opinion is upsetting you so much, but I am entitled to one.

And still: Why does it matter to you what someone prefers or spends their money on?
When did I say it did? All I did was express an opinion about the appeal of a product to a certain demographic. I never said they should or should not buy it. I expressed an opinion about why I think they would not want it.

You were clearly wrong. Let it go.

How does it hurt you if someone chooses a Chromebook over a traditional PC?
When did I say it did? Quote please. Your question is a non-sequitur.
 
Not to stop this ongoing debate/discussion over the Chromebooks but lets please keep in mind to keep things generalized and NOT get personal on each other.

Never ends good for anyone on both sides ;)

Paul
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Uh huh.


Post #92.

Could've been worse. You could have also cut off the "form factor" and really taken my post out of context.

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"Laptop" is a form factor, and not an OS. MacBooks are also laptops. I'm trying to understand how this idea still escapes some people. And for those that say "regular people hear laptop and think Windows" I guess the definition of "regular people" is different for everyone, right? Coupled with the fact that Chromebooks have (an admittedly small) section at Best Buy means that people that aren't always on the Internet will in fact come in contact with them through the course of shopping.
 
Could've been worse. You could have also cut off the "form factor" and really taken my post out of context.

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"Laptop" is a form factor, and not an OS. MacBooks are also laptops. I'm trying to understand how this idea still escapes some people. And for those that say "regular people hear laptop and think Windows" I guess the definition of "regular people" is different for everyone, right? Coupled with the fact that Chromebooks have (an admittedly small) section at Best Buy means that people that aren't always on the Internet will in fact come in contact with them through the course of shopping.

Chromebooks are also in Walmart, Target & Staples, as well as available from many online retailers. I don't know many people who have no idea what it is, although most people do have misconceptions about what it is.
 
Explain the difference between "laptop" and "laptop form factor" then.

They are the same since "laptop" is a form factor and not OS. I guess I over simplified before. Or maybe not enough. Now I'm not sure.

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I've been asked to "fix" a friend's Chromebook with a corrupt/damaged OS. Google's "solution" is not working for me, and a search reveals I am not alone. Reaching out to a Chromebook "ninja" as suggested by Google as a last resort has been futile. Sure, I can probably hack my way to a fix, maybe install Ubuntu or something, but that's beside the point. If I was on the fence about getting one of these before, that's no longer the case. Maybe later releases won't suffer from this issue, but consumers don't often get over a bad 1st impression, especially when there are other options available.
 
I love my chromebook and realistically couldn't see myself with another machine of its type. Its very reliable and to the point in what it attempts to accomplish. ChomeOS is really quite brilliant once fully understood. Initially I had no interest in the idea of a chromebook but after getting one as a backup computer it quickly became my daily driver and now is the key device in my lineup. I find myself reaching for it before everything. Simplicity is king, and chromeOS is a different kind of beast that continues to add stellar and smarter features just about every week it seems. Don't hate what you don't understand. Cloud computing will be the future.

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I would also like to know more about the corrupt/damaged OS. I want to get a Chromebook for my mom. She is very PC illiterate. She uses a mail station for email but you can buy them anymore and she pays a ridiculous monthly fee for the service. Her husband has a PC and she knows how to just browse the internet on it. I think a Chromebook would be a great device for her just to do email and web browsing and maybe hangouts. She doesn't need local storage. It would be hard for her to mess it up or get a virus. If she had a PC she would probably mess up the configuration and I'm not close to help her.

Personally I wouldn't mind one too. I'm a desktop user but it would be great for travel and meetings. Mostly my N7 can fill that void but once in a while it would be nice to have a full keyboard and touchpad or plug in mouse
 
I bought a Chromebook for my wife a couple months ago. It took some time for her to get on to it, but now I'm starting to see her using it while it's on top of her closed laptop PC!
 
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