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    Default Should I worry about the internet?

    since net neutrality is done for I am worried that the internet will end up sucking and that internet service providers will start blocking a lot of content and making it to where we don't have an open internet anymore. should I worry about this? will internet service providers block a lot of content like social sites and things? please help thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkua View Post
    since net neutrality is done for I am worried that the internet will end up sucking and that internet service providers will start blocking a lot of content and making it to where we don't have an open internet anymore. should I worry about this? will internet service providers block a lot of content like social sites and things? please help thanks.

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    Not sure what you mean by "since net neutrality is done". It was never a law or ever enforceable. Its only been discussed and debated over in the USA.



    There is only one instance where a country actually put serious effort into this.

    Law in Chile
    On 13 June 2010, the National Congress of Chile, amended its telecommunications law in order to preserve network neutrality, becoming the first country in the world to do so. This came after an intensive campaign on blogs, Twitter, and other social networks.
    The law, published on 26 August 2010, added three articles to the General Law of Telecommunications, forbidding ISPs from arbitrarily blocking, interfering with, discriminating, hindering or restricting an Internet user's right to use, send, receive or offer any legal content, application, service or any other type of legal activity or use through the Internet. To that effect ISPs must offer Internet access in which content is not arbitrarily treated differently based on its source or ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zedorda View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "since net neutrality is done". It was never a law or ever enforceable. Its only been discussed and debated over in the USA.



    There is only one instance where a country actually put serious effort into this.

    Law in Chile
    On 13 June 2010, the National Congress of Chile, amended its telecommunications law in order to preserve network neutrality, becoming the first country in the world to do so. This came after an intensive campaign on blogs, Twitter, and other social networks.
    The law, published on 26 August 2010, added three articles to the General Law of Telecommunications, forbidding ISPs from arbitrarily blocking, interfering with, discriminating, hindering or restricting an Internet user's right to use, send, receive or offer any legal content, application, service or any other type of legal activity or use through the Internet. To that effect ISPs must offer Internet access in which content is not arbitrarily treated differently based on its source or ownership.
    So you don't think internet service providers will start blocking and discriminating other sites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkua View Post
    So you don't think internet service providers will start blocking and discriminating other sites?

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    As of right now, nobody is doing anything. But right now there is a possibility, as shown with Netflix that some internet providers are considering slowing streaming unless they are paid to increase speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A895 View Post
    As of right now, nobody is doing anything. But right now there is a possibility, as shown with Netflix that some internet providers are considering slowing streaming unless they are paid to increase speeds.

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    Do you think they'll ever block certain websites or apps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkua View Post
    Do you think they'll ever block certain websites or apps?

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    Not block but slow the connection to. Then those sites that see slower connection lose memberships and visitors forcing them to pay the internet providers to speed up their connection to their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A895 View Post
    As of right now, nobody is doing anything. But right now there is a possibility, as shown with Netflix that some internet providers are considering slowing streaming unless they are paid to increase speeds.

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    If they decided that, they will lose a lot of customers. There are plenty of alternative subscriptions and they know it. Unless the bunch of them decided to come together and do it. A lot of people will be pissed, even people who aren't tech savvy.

    I think there is a bit over reaction, but it's still something to follow closely. If it is an add on service like paying extra for bandwidth or speed, then it actually enhances the service. They couldn't possibly be dumb enough to limit speed, unless all four carriers band together and do it and leave consumers with no alternatives while the FCC become more spineless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy01234 View Post
    If they decided that, they will lose a lot of customers. There are plenty of alternative subscriptions and they know it. Unless the bunch of them decided to come together and do it. A lot of people will be pissed, even people who aren't tech savvy.

    I think there is a bit over reaction, but it's still something to follow closely. If it is an add on service like paying extra for bandwidth or speed, then it actually enhances the service. They couldn't possibly be dumb enough to limit speed, unless all four carriers band together and do it and leave consumers with no alternatives.
    Actually Netflix already paid out:


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    Actually Netflix already paid out:


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    As long as it is to enhance a service, and no background throttling I am fine with it. I am on Comcast and have not had any issues with Netflix or HBO Go.... yet.
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    As long as it is to enhance a service, and no background throttling I am fine with it. I am on Comcast and have not had any issues with Netflix or HBO Go.... yet.
    Its to make sure they don't get throttled. They had complaints of slower speeds or fear of slower speeds before:



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    Quote Originally Posted by ahawkua View Post
    So you don't think internet service providers will start blocking and discriminating other sites?

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    I believe any profit based system will abuse anything to procure new avenues of profit. It is completely possible it is already happening and wouldn't shock me at all. I think it will increase in activity once anyone makes a notable profit from it. Then as soon as the wealthy become effected it will start hitting the news, etc. But till there is a squeaky wheel there will be no progress toward protection from exploitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zedorda View Post
    I believe any profit based system will abuse anything to procure new avenues of profit. It is completely possible it is already happening and wouldn't shock me at all. I think it will increase in activity once anyone makes a notable profit from it. Then as soon as the wealthy become effected it will start hitting the news, etc. But till there is a squeaky wheel there will be no progress toward protection from exploitation.
    Then again while internet is freedom and part of free speech, nothing explicitly states we have a right to the internet. Really the ones who will be hurt the most is websites who can't afford to pay or startups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A895 View Post
    Then again while internet is freedom and part of free speech, nothing explicitly states we have a right to the internet. Really the ones who will be hurt the most is websites who can't afford to pay or startups.

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    So if they do block a lot of sites do you think they're hear it from the public

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    So if they do block a lot of sites do you think they're hear it from the public

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    Depends on what sites and what people actually do. A lot of people just whine on the internet.

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    Depends on what sites and what people actually do. A lot of people just whine on the internet.

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    I'm so worried about this. Because I use the internet everyday and I don't want them blocking my access to sites and apps :/

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    Depends on what sites and what people actually do. A lot of people just whine on the internet.

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    Should I worry

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    Should I worry

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    Nope. Nothing serious is happening yet.

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    Nope. Nothing serious is happening yet.

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    But what if it does?

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    Nope. Nothing serious is happening yet.

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    I mean would they block websites and sites, or just throttle them?

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    I mean would they block websites and sites, or just throttle them?

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    Throttle. They can't completely block access to sites.

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    Throttle. They can't completely block access to sites.

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    They can't? I thought they could.

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    No.

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    No.

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    Oh well that's good. But why can't they though?

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    Throttle. They can't completely block access to sites.

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    How in the world can it be legal to throttle certain sites whenever im already paying for a certain connection speed in the first place ? I mean wouldn't that be the same as the service provider charging twice for the same service ?? example we stream a lot of net flix we pay for I think a 25mb connection speed . How in the hell can they turn around and throttle Netflix and negatively impact my service at the same time ???? what am I missing here ?
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    How in the world can it be legal to throttle certain sites whenever im already paying for a certain connection speed in the first place ? I mean wouldn't that be the same as the service provider charging twice for the same service ?? example we stream a lot of net flix we pay for I think a 25mb connection speed . How in the hell can they turn around and throttle Netflix and negatively impact my service at the same time ???? what am I missing here ?
    " On January 14, 2014, the DC Circuit Court determined in the case of*Verizon v. Federal Communications Commission that the FCC has no authority to enforce Network Neutrality rules, since service providers are not identified as "common carriers".It did, however, agree that FCC has the ability to regulate broadband and may craft more specific rules that stop short of identifying service providers as common carriers, according to lobbyist group Public Knowledge.The likelihood of this occurring under new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler is low, as he has stated in the past that he is not opposed to providers receiving consideration to prioritize certain traffic."

    More here:



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