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    Quote Originally Posted by TabGuy View Post
    Correct. My i5 laptop with 6gb ram can do 480p nicely. 720p is somewhat choppy. My neighbor with an i7 and 8gb ram can do 720p nicely.
    I think the assertion that a i5 with 6GB of ram is poor/lacking hardware is a bit crazy. Was yoour computer attached via Wifi or Wired connection to the network. My Desktop with a PhenomII 1055 doesn't even straing at all doing the 720 with High Bitrate. I think i saw it in the low 20's while it was doing the streaming. That is far from being to much for a decent i5. If your laptop was on battery and clocked down, or over wifi itself maybe then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig King View Post
    I think the assertion that a i5 with 6GB of ram is poor/lacking hardware is a bit crazy. Was yoour computer attached via Wifi or Wired connection to the network. My Desktop with a PhenomII 1055 doesn't even straing at all doing the 720 with High Bitrate. I think i saw it in the low 20's while it was doing the streaming. That is far from being to much for a decent i5. If your laptop was on battery and clocked down, or over wifi itself maybe then.
    My company develops hardware and software video streaming systems, as pretty much our only product line. There is huge variability in the quality of wireless drivers on PC's. So much so that we almost never try to stream on WiFi in demos. Some totally modern machines cannot deliver the packet performance for a reliable stream. So I don't think native processing power explains poor performance. Our hardware has an ancient processor in it, and it can do a better job than a lot of PC's. My 2008 MacBook, on the other hand streams just fine. Likely due to the tight hardware and software integration.

    Now if you guys are seeing poor streaming with your PC using Ethernet to the router, then that is a different issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lstream View Post
    My company develops hardware and software video streaming systems, as pretty much our only product line. There is huge variability in the quality of wireless drivers on PC's. So much so that we almost never try to stream on WiFi in demos. Some totally modern machines cannot deliver the packet performance for a reliable stream. So I don't think native processing power explains poor performance. Our hardware has an ancient processor in it, and it can do a better job than a lot of PC's. My 2008 MacBook, on the other hand streams just fine. Likely due to the tight hardware and software integration.

    Now if you guys are seeing poor streaming with your PC using Ethernet to the router, then that is a different issue.
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  4. #29  

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    My laptop cannot handle 720p, but I don't think I have "poor" hardware. It is 18 months old, but still not exactly outdated:

    The HP Envy 17 3D is an entry-level configuration now available in the United States and can be considered quite the bang for the buck in terms of included hardware and feature sets. The base configuration ($1,449.99) includes a quad-core processor from Intel’s 2nd-generation Core series, the 2.2 GHz Core i7-2670QM, with 8 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM and a 750 GB 7200 rpm hard drive. Also included is the Radeon HD 7690M—a dedicated upper midrange graphics card that can be switched to integrated Intel graphics to save power and extend the laptop’s battery life.

    And I just got a new router:
    Amazon.com: ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router: Computers & Accessories

    My Charter cable internet speed is around 40Mbps down and 4Mbps up.

    I can run 480p smoothly but 720p video cast on chrome tab is just unwatchable. For people who had no problem with 720p tab cast, could you list your hardware spec and internet speed? What kind of OS? I am on Windows 7 64bit.

    It could have something to with my switchable graphic, but I did have it set on full time high power GPU graphic.
    Just want to post an update. The problem is my HP laptop. I tried chrome tab casting from a MacBook Pro today and it runs perfectly at 720p and even at 720p extreme. I know my laptop is slower than the Macbook Pro didn't know it is that much slower!
  5. #30  

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    Just want to post an update. The problem is my HP laptop. I tried chrome tab casting from a MacBook Pro today and it runs perfectly at 720p and even at 720p extreme. I know my laptop is slower than the Macbook Pro didn't know it is that much slower!
    It isn't, something else is going on. Whether it be optimization or video decoding, your laptop is more than adequate for 720p. I would try something though. I would switch to the intel graphics card because they have decoding optimization for video (quicksync) which is what the Macs use for Airplay. I know it seems weird because the ATI card is a better card, but I would still give that at try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farish View Post
    It isn't, something else is going on. Whether it be optimization or video decoding, your laptop is more than adequate for 720p. I would try something though. I would switch to the intel graphics card because they have decoding optimization for video (quicksync) which is what the Macs use for Airplay. I know it seems weird because the ATI card is a better card, but I would still give that at try.
    I actually had the exact same thought this morning even before I read your post just now. I tried it this morning to switch to intel graphic and it didn't do any better. I even updated to the latest AMD catalyst driver. I don't think it is the i7 cpu. I am guessing it is either
    1) Graphic card or driver
    2) WiFi adapter in the laptop
    3) Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

    I am not sure what else to try at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    I actually had the exact same thought this morning even before I read your post just now. I tried it this morning to switch to intel graphic and it didn't do any better. I even updated to the latest AMD catalyst driver. I don't think it is the i7 cpu. I am guessing it is either
    1) Graphic card or driver
    2) WiFi adapter in the laptop
    3) Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

    I am not sure what else to try at this point.
    Somebody else had a issue in another thread about video quality, from what happen to them it was the fact that the Chromecast was on the otherside of the house from where the router was located. It worked fine on TVs closer to the router.

    Also for further testing I just tried out my wife's laptop. It has only an i3-2348m processor and had no issues pushing 720p content. I did both Youtube and Netflix.

    The rest of her laptop stats are Windows 8 64 bit and 4gb of ram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farish View Post
    Somebody else had a issue in another thread about video quality, from what happen to them it was the fact that the Chromecast was on the otherside of the house from where the router was located. It worked fine on TVs closer to the router.

    Also for further testing I just tried out my wife's laptop. It has only an i3-2348m processor and had no issues pushing 720p content. I did both Youtube and Netflix.

    The rest of her laptop stats are Windows 8 64 bit and 4gb of ram.
    No, YouTube and Netflix are fine. They actually come in at 1080p without any problem. It is because they go straight from internet to the chromecast dongle and the laptop is only used as UI. I have problem with the Chrome browser tab casting. It goes direct from laptop to wireless router to chromecast dongle without internet. Distance is not the problem and router is not the problem. The Macbook Pro was able to do it easily from much further away from the router and the TV. Both my laptop and router are about 5 feet away from the TV.

    Try do the Tab cast with your wife's laptop and run a Hulu video and see it could do 720p or 720p extreme mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    I actually had the exact same thought this morning even before I read your post just now. I tried it this morning to switch to intel graphic and it didn't do any better. I even updated to the latest AMD catalyst driver. I don't think it is the i7 cpu. I am guessing it is either
    1) Graphic card or driver
    2) WiFi adapter in the laptop
    3) Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

    I am not sure what else to try at this point.
    As others have said I'd investigate the WiFi signal strength and equipment. Try the laptop wired [cat5] to the WiFi router and that should help you determine if it is the laptop's WiFi or the router's.
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  10. #35  

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    No, YouTube and Netflix are fine. They actually come in at 1080p without any problem. It is because they go straight from internet to the chromecast dongle and the laptop is only used as UI. I have problem with the Chrome browser tab casting. It goes direct from laptop to wireless router to chromecast dongle without internet. Distance is not the problem and router is not the problem. The Macbook Pro was able to do it easily from much further away from the router and the TV. Both my laptop and router are about 5 feet away from the TV.

    Try do the Tab cast with your wife's laptop and run a Hulu video and see it could do 720p or 720p extreme mode.
    I have the quality set to high I don't see an option to 720p do I have to log in or have hulu plus?

    No lag at all.
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  11. #36  

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    On the laptop, open the latest version of Chrome Browser. If it doesn't come with Google Cast extension, you have to download it. Now open up Chrome, on the top you should see a little rectangular cast box. Under it, there is OPTION. Under OPTION, you have 3 choices of quality, 720 Extreme, 720, 480. The default is set to 720. If you go to Hulu.com on your chrome tab, you could click the box and select your chromecast name to start casting that tab.

    As for WiFi signal, it doesn't matter in my case. Both chromecast and laptop shows full signal and I have switched 2 different routers. It is the laptop. Just need to figure out which part of the laptop causes the lag.
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  12. #37  

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    Quote Originally Posted by vansmack View Post
    First off, Jerry said it would work, not Google. The comments clearly corrected Jerry and said that live feeds do not work on mobile devices yet.

    Second, it's beautiful on my HDTV from my Dell laptop, not choppy at all and in HD. I'm guessing environmental factors are causing your problems.

    Posted via Android Central App
    To be fair, I instantly went to Google+ to tell people HOW to cast it. Wasn't sure if telling folks how to get around content restrictions on the blog was kosher, and really thought that people would figure it out

    For the record, I watched it all weekend without a problem in 720p casted to my TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    My laptop cannot handle 720p, but I don't think I have "poor" hardware. It is 18 months old, but still not exactly outdated:

    The HP Envy 17 3D is an entry-level configuration now available in the United States and can be considered quite the bang for the buck in terms of included hardware and feature sets. The base configuration ($1,449.99) includes a quad-core processor from Intel’s 2nd-generation Core series, the 2.2 GHz Core i7-2670QM, with 8 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM and a 750 GB 7200 rpm hard drive. Also included is the Radeon HD 7690M—a dedicated upper midrange graphics card that can be switched to integrated Intel graphics to save power and extend the laptop’s battery life.

    And I just got a new router:
    Amazon.com: ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router: Computers & Accessories

    My Charter cable internet speed is around 40Mbps down and 4Mbps up.

    I can run 480p smoothly but 720p video cast on chrome tab is just unwatchable. For people who had no problem with 720p tab cast, could you list your hardware spec and internet speed? What kind of OS? I am on Windows 7 64bit.

    It could have something to with my switchable graphic, but I did have it set on full time high power GPU graphic.
    Just for the sake of curiosity try it with the Intel graphics and see if it's better or worse. Far stranger things have happened when graphics drivers are involved.

    *EDIT*

    Oops, Already tried I see. Where's the darn post delete button. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    On the laptop, open the latest version of Chrome Browser. If it doesn't come with Google Cast extension, you have to download it. Now open up Chrome, on the top you should see a little rectangular cast box. Under it, there is OPTION. Under OPTION, you have 3 choices of quality, 720 Extreme, 720, 480. The default is set to 720. If you go to Hulu.com on your chrome tab, you could click the box and select your chromecast name to start casting that tab.

    As for WiFi signal, it doesn't matter in my case. Both chromecast and laptop shows full signal and I have switched 2 different routers. It is the laptop. Just need to figure out which part of the laptop causes the lag.
    I had the Chromecast extension when I used Hulu and it was checked at 720p.

    You stated that Netflix ran fine so did youtube, so maybe clear your browser cache. Maybe that will lead to something being resolved with a corrupted cache playback file for this random issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farish View Post
    I had the Chromecast extension when I used Hulu and it was checked at 720p.

    You stated that Netflix ran fine so did youtube, so maybe clear your browser cache. Maybe that will lead to something being resolved with a corrupted cache playback file for this random issue.
    Did that and it didn't help. I tried 720p on my work's laptop which is only i5 with 8Gb RAM and intel internal video and it was casting just fine! It does skip about every 30 to 45 seconds but it was doing much better than my HP laptop. I think it is just something wrong with my HP laptop.

    480p is not that bad though. Many of the video I streamed are at 480p anyway, so they turned out okay. And I love the cast whole desktop thing for slide shows. Yes, I could connect my laptop to HDMI but this is so much easier without moving my laptop. It will probably work really well if you have 5 or 6 people who are doing powerpoint charts or slide shows on their own laptop. They could do it in their seats and don't have to move the laptop to connect to the cable.
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    Is it possible to try it with the laptop attached via a wired connection to the network. I know you are saying it doesn't matter, but just to check it.

    It is my understanding that Netflix and Youtube are computer independent so doesn't really help with testing your laptop.
    Craig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig King View Post
    Is it possible to try it with the laptop attached via a wired connection to the network. I know you are saying it doesn't matter, but just to check it.
    The reason I said it is not the WiFi is that with both the Macbook Pro and the Dell i5 laptop, I was further away from router and the chomecast than the HP laptop. I think the problem is with my AMD switchable graphic card:

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    I understand that, but not all wifi cards or laptop antenna's are created equal. So by going wired just to test would confirm once and for all that wifi wasn't the problem if it still occured.
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  19. #44  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Hildenbrand View Post
    To be fair, I instantly went to Google+ to tell people HOW to cast it. Wasn't sure if telling folks how to get around content restrictions on the blog was kosher, and really thought that people would figure it out

    For the record, I watched it all weekend without a problem in 720p casted to my TV.
    Of course - I was more defending Google than throwing you under the bus. Sorry if you took it that way.

    It sounds like you and I were the only one's who were able to really enjoy the live shows with our Chromecast. I had 720p with USTREAM and Outside Lands this weekend as well.

    For those wanting my specs to compare performance:

    Laptop: Dell Latitude E6220, Windows 8, i5-2520m with 4GB RAM, Wireless N (2.4ghz)

    My router is a Meraki MR12 or MR16 (I can't remember)

    The laptop, router and Chromecast are all in the same room (10x16).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig King View Post
    I understand that, but not all wifi cards or laptop antenna's are created equal. So by going wired just to test would confirm once and for all that wifi wasn't the problem if it still occured.
    Okay tested! Interesting result... it works a lot better with wired connection. It runs smoothly, no freezing and definitely at 720p. However, it seems to run at about half the frame rate. I am getting probably about 15fps or worst. Went back to try on the Macbook pro and it still cast 720p perfectly with wireless. Oh well. I guess the wifi adapter is slow on my laptop and something else is bad.. probably graphic card...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    Okay tested! Interesting result... it works a lot better with wired connection. It runs smoothly, no freezing and definitely at 720p. However, it seems to run at about half the frame rate. I am getting probably about 15fps or worst. Went back to try on the Macbook pro and it still cast 720p perfectly with wireless. Oh well. I guess the wifi adapter is slow on my laptop and something else is bad.. probably graphic card...
    Couple other items then. Could be something weird with your network configuration on your laptop and that could be causing packet loss. Make sure there isn't a virtual adapter in there and if there is, try disabling it. Second even though you were going through wire, the chromecast is communicating with the router wireless. It could be your wireless card alone if you have a usb one maybe try that and disable the other to see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farish View Post
    Couple other items then. Could be something weird with your network configuration on your laptop and that could be causing packet loss. Make sure there isn't a virtual adapter in there and if there is, try disabling it. Second even though you were going through wire, the chromecast is communicating with the router wireless. It could be your wireless card alone if you have a usb one maybe try that and disable the other to see what happens.
    That was it!!! Somehow there are 2 Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapters on my Network Adapters page. I have no idea what they are and I disabled them, now casting 720p without any lag! Thanks so much!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostchild View Post
    That was it!!! Somehow there are 2 Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapters on my Network Adapters page. I have no idea what they are and I disabled them, now casting 720p without any lag! Thanks so much!!!!
    That's great.
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    Never mind, I spoke too soon. When I was playing trailers, it was fine. When I started watching an episode of something.. it started freezing and skipping again after about 5 minutes. Oh well, at least now I could watch movie trailers LOL
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