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    My Nexus 10 has been rebooting on its own since I got. It only does it while it's in idle, not while using it but it's annoying nonetheless. I thought Android 4.2.1 fixed these issues but I was wrong. So I kept digging for a solution. Found one...... a workaround.

    Issue 40140 - android - Nexus 7 / Android 4.2 : Sporadic reboots due to *** FATAL EXCEPTION IN SYSTEM PROCESS: ActivityManager - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting

    Someone has found that the bug is most likely related to a locations. Scroll down and the guy says to turn off all location settings. That's what I did. I unchecked all the settings (GPS included) and switched the switch to off. Of course this means Google Now won't work (which sucks) but it seems to have fixed the reboot when in idle issue.

    I have not had a reboot since I did this so I'm pretty happy. This seems to also work with the Nexus 7 so for those having problems there; give it a try. Google Now is lost for the time being but I do think it's worth giving it up until Google crushes all these bugs. I'll post back in here if my Nexus 10 randomly reboots again just to be clear that this workaround actually works.

    So just give it a try.

    Off Topic - Wifi disconnecting randomly is also a huge pain that I have not found a workaround or solution for, I really hope Google gets this bug with it's next update.
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    Thanks for the post, I'm interested to see if it works. That said I've not had too many random reboots and I do like Now so I'm leaving as is for the time being. If it becomes a hassle, at least I know what to do, now. (No pun intended )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanMan14 View Post
    Thanks for the post, I'm interested to see if it works. That said I've not had too many random reboots and I do like Now so I'm leaving as is for the time being. If it becomes a hassle, at least I know what to do, now. (No pun intended )
    Maybe I'm just unlucky. It's good to here you're not having the issue I was having. My tablet was rebooting 3 to 4 times a day while in idle. I didn't think that would fare well with the battery so I kept my tablet off most of the time. But now it's all good (so far).
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    Update: I have had maybe 2 or 3 random reboots since posting my last massage.

    I haven't had any random reboots since 4.2.1 upgrade. I use google now all the time so i'm not sure what the difference is between systems but mine is running perfect.
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    This is crazy, what would apple do if their iPads were randomly rebooting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by no6969el View Post
    This is crazy, what would apple do if their iPads were randomly rebooting?
    Over charge the consumer and force them to use their ecosystem and theirs alone. Install a proprietary port instead of the industry standard. Then take months to fix their maps rebooting problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no6969el View Post
    This is crazy, what would apple do if their iPads were randomly rebooting?
    Lol. They've done the same thing, only forced options to be temporarily removed so that people wouldn't complain about it (iPad 2). Instead of removing the option altogether, as Apple would, you can manually disable it or turn it back on. I've had Location Services on and I'm pushing over 50 hours uptime. I think it depends on the device + the usage of Location Services. I only use it for HD Widgets (and as far as I know, they've updated to work around that issue for the time being).
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    I have had 2 Nexus 10's and both have had this problem. The suggested work a rounds only worked to slow down the issue but did not solve it. Google support's only solution is exchange or refund. No one should have to jump thru work arounds like this anyway.

    For the record I have had issues with Apple products and in both cases a fix was pushed within a week, so no it does not take Apple 6 months. Maps isn't a bug so to compare that is just dumb.

    Google has one more chance with me and then I am done. The good part is the N10 rocks but they need to,push out a fix. 4.2.1 was total crap as indicated by so many threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devlyn16 View Post
    Over charge the consumer and force them to use their ecosystem and theirs alone. Install a proprietary port instead of the industry standard. Then take months to fix their maps rebooting problem.
    Then when they do fix it you still can't choose the default app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devlyn16 View Post
    Over charge the consumer and force them to use their ecosystem and theirs alone. Install a proprietary port instead of the industry standard. Then take months to fix their maps rebooting problem.
    What do you just make stuff up as you go? IPad's have access to Kindle apps, Nook apps, Audible Apps to name a few for books. Movies, Amazon, Vudu and they can be downloaded too. You can also buy music from several sources and are not forced to buy music, books, movies exclusively from Apple. ITunes is available and certainly the primary part of the Apple ecosystem, but you are NOT forced to use it.

    If Android fans expect to have credibility you cannot just make stuff up and/or outright lie as a means of trying to make Android or Google look like a better option.

    Lightning is proprietary, but in 6 months Apple will see 10 times as many supported accessories than Android devices, speakers, docks, etc. So this will ultimately make no difference. I wish I could get some nice accessories for my Nexus devices.

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    How do I install other non apple authorised apps on my iPhone then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonuk View Post
    How do I install other non apple authorised apps on my iPhone then?
    Just like you do non supported Android apps you jailbreak or root it.

    My response was directed at the BS that you are just locked into Apple ecosystem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    Just like you do non supported Android apps you jailbreak or root it.

    My response was directed at the BS that you are just locked into Apple ecosystem.
    So there is no official way then like on android then. On android you don't need to root it to install initial apps.

    Sounds to me you need to get your facts straight to me.
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    I did not update for the first almost 2 weeks, I never had one reboot or crash. As soon as I updated, with in the first half hour I had my firt reboot. I had another the day later. This was when they were first released.

    I haven't had one since. I run most of the apps others are abd use chrome exclusively (which I have yet to have a crash, freeze or reboot with). The only thing I havenshut iff is gps and nfc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonuk View Post
    So there is no official way then like on android then. On android you don't need to root it to install initial apps.

    Sounds to me you need to get your facts straight to me.
    I got my facts straight and as an Android owner I do not need to lie about Apple or it's products. You are mighty defensive. The person I replied to clearly stated misinformation about only being able to use Apple ecosystem on Apple iDevices. I simply gave examples of apps to the contrary. What you are referring to is something entirely different. I never said iOS is an open platform but there are apps that would allow you to never use iTunes (for music, podcast, movies and books) You cannot deny that. Apps is a different story. Enough of this!

    Now lets get back on topic. I am avoiding using Chrome now and that does seem to help with the rebooting. I still think 4.2.1 introduced this problem. One of my friends that got a Nexus 10 for Christmas did not updated Chrome or Jelly Bean to 4.2.1 and he has no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    I got my facts straight and as an Android owner I do not need to lie about Apple or it's products. You are mighty defensive. The person I replied to clearly stated misinformation about only being able to use Apple ecosystem on Apple iDevices. I simply gave examples of apps to the contrary. What you are referring to is something entirely different. I never said iOS is an open platform but there are apps that would allow you to never use iTunes (for music, podcast, movies and books) You cannot deny that. Apps is a different story. Enough of this!

    Now lets get back on topic. I am avoiding using Chrome now and that does seem to help with the rebooting. I still think 4.2.1 introduced this problem. One of my friends that got a Nexus 10 for Christmas did not updated Chrome or Jelly Bean to 4.2.1 and he has no issues.

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    I use chrome exclusively just to see if I can get a rebbot and weeks later yet to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    What do you just make stuff up as you go?
    In fact I do < Quick look outside the sky is GREEN>. However in this case I was responding to the question "what would apple do if their iPads were randomly rebooting?" in a humorous manner, while pointing out that Apple has their own flaws.


    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    IPad's have access to Kindle apps, Nook apps, Audible Apps to name a few for books. Movies, Amazon, Vudu and they can be downloaded too. You can also buy music from several sources and are not forced to buy music, books, movies exclusively from Apple. ITunes is available and certainly the primary part of the Apple ecosystem, but you are NOT forced to use it.
    Now, on our Androids we can buy Angry Birds from Google Play and from Amazon's App store this means we are NOT locked into the Google Play App store ecosystem. We can buy the same app, from somewhere else and Google gets none of the money. Perhaps I am mistaken and Apple now lets people buy apps from somewhere they don't get a piece of profits from. If so please inform me what other stores that are outside the Apple Ecosystem that iDevice users can purchase apps from without jailbreaking. I have a few family members that could make use of that.


    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    If Android fans expect to have credibility you cannot just make stuff up and/or outright lie as a means of trying to make Android or Google look like a better option.
    You are right! Luckily I don't think I made up or outright lied about any thing, though I did make up that bit about the Green sky. Lets look at my humorous claims.

    1. Over charge the consumer
    2. force them to use their ecosystem and theirs alone.
    3. Install a proprietary port instead of the industry standard.
    4. Then take months to fix their maps rebooting problem.


    #1 I believe the fact that Apple tax is pretty self evident and far form a lie.
    #2 I addressed above. Apple has had their fingers in wallet of any purchased app.
    #3 The Micro USB is the industry standard. Apple does not use it. Imagine if Apple had used it from the start, then they might have had the weight to change the Standard to Lighting/Firefly/Thunder or whatever it is called.
    #4 [I forget what 4 was for] I believe this accurately pointed out Apple is not exactly The Flash [not Jay, Barry, Wally or Bart] when it comes to fixing things.



    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    Lightning is proprietary, but in 6 months Apple will see 10 times as many supported accessories than Android devices, speakers, docks, etc. So this will ultimately make no difference. I wish I could get some nice accessories for my Nexus devices.
    Yes it is proprietary, yes it will have more supported devices. We could argue the whys and what for but the point is IF Apple had adopted the industry standard from the get go, then all the supported devices out there WOULD work with our Androids and we wouldnt be wishing for some nice accessories for our Nexus 10s.Heck, I would happily accept my Nexus 10 needing an adapter if Apple and all the other manufacturers agreed to a single NEW standard [Let's call it BATport becuase everyone knows Batman has a plan] starting in 2014.

    Now with all that said YES Google should have resolved this while issue [the rebooting one, not the Green sky one] by now.

    Finally, lets all try to agree there is nothing wrong with some light hearted fun at the competitors expense. Friendly competition not Lawsuits is what is in the consumer's best interest.
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    Apps, yes Apple has that locked up pretty tight, which is good and bad. However, you used the term ecosystem and the whole thing is not locked down and this is what I called you on. You can still get movies, books, podcast, music from many other sources and most of those apps are free. Free apps net Apple nothing.

    It is one thing to have a bit of fun, I am all for that. But let's be honest and not generalize to the point that something is not true. If you had said you cannot install or buy apps from anyone but Apple I would have agreed.

    Apple can use whatever connector they so choose and 3rd party companies will make accessories. Android manufacturers should standardize a connector or port so that whatever Android you buy the docks (when available will work). To hell with what Apple does, they owe nothing to Android owners.

    My issue here is not with Apple, all the Apple talk is irrelevant. Apple has never taken 6 month to fix anything (maps aside). My problem is with Google for putting out a crappy update that broke more than it fixed. The other thing is their crappy support that thinks RMA's is a form of support.

    So lets get on topic and drop all the Apple talk. I only brought it up cause we do not do the Android community any favors when play these Apple is bad games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    Apps, yes Apple has that locked up pretty tight, which is good and bad. However, you used the term ecosystem and the whole thing is not locked down and this is what I called you on. You can still get movies, books, podcast, music from many other sources and most of those apps are free. Free apps net Apple nothing..
    Not to side track the thread, but since you are obviously more knowledgable about Apple's system than I am. I seem to recall at one point Apple received a "piece" of all in-app sales/purchases. Is this still true? to be clear IF an iOS user gets a free Kindle app [which can only be downladed form the iTunes store right?] Does Apple infact get a share of any books purchased through the free app? Is the same true for comic book apps and magazine apps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTACORB View Post
    Apps, yes Apple has that locked up pretty tight, which is good and bad. However, you used the term ecosystem and the whole thing is not locked down and this is what I called you on. You can still get movies, books, podcast, music from many other sources and most of those apps are free. Free apps net Apple nothing.

    It is one thing to have a bit of fun, I am all for that. But let's be honest and not generalize to the point that something is not true. If you had said you cannot install or buy apps from anyone but Apple I would have agreed.

    Apple can use whatever connector they so choose and 3rd party companies will make accessories. Android manufacturers should standardize a connector or port so that whatever Android you buy the docks (when available will work). To hell with what Apple does, they owe nothing to Android owners.

    My issue here is not with Apple, all the Apple talk is irrelevant. Apple has never taken 6 month to fix anything (maps aside). My problem is with Google for putting out a crappy update that broke more than it fixed. The other thing is their crappy support that thinks RMA's is a form of support.

    So lets get on topic and drop all the Apple talk. I only brought it up cause we do not do the Android community any favors when play these Apple is bad games.
    I wouldn't consider books and music apples ecosystem. How can "Apples" ecosystem include things that arent related to Apple? Kindle, amazon etc. Apples ecosystem are devices and how they only work with each other. Think Facetime, iMessage, cloud services, etc. You need a device from Apple to use these services. Unlike Skype in place of Facetime for example which can be used on Apple devices, Microsoft, PC's, Android and etc....

    Lightning connectors sole purpose was to increase Apples revenue but selling rights to use it, hence the built in security chip. China manufactures have already cracked it though.

    There have been issues with Apple products for years that haven't been corrected. Facebook notifications not making an alert sound is one of the most notorious. Some say its because of the app itself which may or may not be the truth but its been an issue since iOS 5.x. There are plenty of other issues too, here is an annoying one I'm personally dealing with....

    Email Alert Tone - MacRumors Forums

    Its not the end of the world but its annoying. And I know the only solution will be a full restore, which his way to much of a hassle to bother with.

    We are on reboot issues for the N10 and I bet you'd be hard pressed to pick up an iOS device that's more then a month old that hasn't had springboard crash (phone crashed).



    Sorry about bringing it up but I don't find Apple devices any better then Android devices in reliability or anything else for that matter and I'm a heavy Apple user as long as Android...
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    So I turned off location services to see if it will help decrease the freeze crash issue
    I left my hd widgets on though
    So we'll see. Will let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CynicX View Post
    I wouldn't consider books and music apples ecosystem. How can "Apples" ecosystem include things that arent related to Apple? Kindle, amazon etc. Apples ecosystem are devices and how they only work with each other.

    Lightning connectors sole purpose was to increase Apples revenue but selling rights to use it, hence the built in security chip. China manufactures have already cracked it though.

    There have been issues with Apple products for years that haven't been corrected. Facebook notifications not making an alert sound is one of the most notorious. Some say its because of the app itself which may or may not be the truth but its been an issue since iOS 5.x. There are plenty of other issues too, here is an annoying one I'm personally dealing with....

    We are on reboot issues for the N10 and I bet you'd be hard pressed to pick up an iOS device that's more then a month old that hasn't had springboard crash (phone crashed).

    Sorry about bringing it up but I don't find Apple devices any better then Android devices in reliability or anything else for that matter and I'm a heavy Apple user as long as Android...
    Well you guy gripe about talking about Apple, but okay. My reply to the original post was that iDevices are NOT locked down to just Apple ecosystem in terms of music, movies, podcast, etc I am fully aware of what an ecosystem is, but Amazon Instant video available on all iDevices.. Not so with Android outside of Amazon's forked version. Kindle, Audible, Vudu, Amazon for movies buy, rent or download. If Apple was so hell bent on forcing everyone to only use their ecosystem, then they wouldn't have allowed these other apps. However, Apple isn't a dumb as many folks think. You take them approving all Google stuff. Google Maps, Google Earth, Youtube, updated Google Email and even gave it push capability. Apple realizes, hell if you can get all the good stuff that Google offers on an Apple device that is a feather in their cap and another selling point for their products. Why bother buying and Android? Its good for Google too, cause they make money selling ads.

    Lightening connector was designed so that Apple could continue on their thinner lighter kick and and if it makes them some money too, why not? Every iDevice I purchased comes with a cable. I have never had issues with notification in Facebook. I've never had my iPad's springboard on me, I have seen it with iPhone. Apple devices are not perfect, but in my opinion the out of the box user experience is way ahead of Android. Most of this has to do with the simplicity of iOS, while Android allows for a lot more customization. I now own a Nexus 7, Nexus 10 and iPad 4, iPhone 5, well let me say I owned a Nexus 10, that bad boy went back today. I will try again in a couple of months. I had a choice to decide between returning the iPad 4 or the Nexus 10. Unfortunately for Google due to the issues I've had withe freezing up and rebooting and absolutely pathetic customer service and support. They lost me on this one. Nexus 7 though is running great with no issues. There is much to like about the Nexus 10 and because of the front facing speakers, nice display and customization that is missing from iOS I actually wanted to keep the Nexus 10, but due to the short return window for either device I had to make a decision. I love how you compare a quick springboard to total freeze and reboot, which takes a heck of a lot longer and in my experience was happening a great deal running my experience.

    Anyway... We could go back and fourth till the cows come home. You aren't going to convince me and I am not going to convince you so, we'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it there. Bottom line is people should get whatever makes them happy, all the rest ultimately doesn't matter. I have it a good country try, it just didn't work out! I have no hard feeling with Google and will certainly give another Google device a try in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devlyn16 View Post
    Not to side track the thread, but since you are obviously more knowledgable about Apple's system than I am. I seem to recall at one point Apple received a "piece" of all in-app sales/purchases. Is this still true? to be clear IF an iOS user gets a free Kindle app [which can only be downladed form the iTunes store right?] Does Apple infact get a share of any books purchased through the free app? Is the same true for comic book apps and magazine apps?
    Just for the heck of it I looked and most of those Apps direct you to their web stores for purchases, but I get your point there are many apps that Apple does get a piece of the pie. I guess if you are selling apps though and making money, rather than giving them away for free. For some that is better than nothing. Bottom line if Apple pays out way more money to dev teams that Android does. So, we done talking about Apple now? This is an Android forum, just saying!
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    I think, in this instance, the Apple talk has run its course. However I feel that comparison and contrast is always an effective tool in when discussing leading equipment and thier manufacturers, so I'm sure Apple will be mentioned in the future when appropriate or approprialy humorous
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    I have had 2 random reboots in the last 24 hours: once while playing ski safari and once while using play books. Has anyone noticed a significant decrease in these reboots by turning off location services? I really enjoy what Google Now offers and would prefer not to lose it.
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