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    Are there any tablets with amoled? A friend was in hong kong and they all had these he said:

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    AMOLED gets to be very difficult to manufacture at higher sizes and resolutions. Thats the reason for different technologies for tablets.

    The new TVs that are coming out do not use the same AMOLED technology as phones. They are actually just white AMOLED, and have a LED filter over them to change the color to RGB. It will still produce the same super black levels and wont require a back light, but that filter adds thickness that isnt acceptable for a phone or tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KneeDragr View Post
    AMOLED gets to be very difficult to manufacture at higher sizes and resolutions. Thats the reason for different technologies for tablets.

    The new TVs that are coming out do not use the same AMOLED technology as phones. They are actually just white AMOLED, and have a LED filter over them to change the color to RGB. It will still produce the same super black levels and wont require a back light, but that filter adds thickness that isnt acceptable for a phone or tablet.
    Ok, thanks. I was guessing that it was a size issue.
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    I think the Galaxy Note 10.1 does but it has a less than wow resolution
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    My most common issues with AMOLED screens, especially on Samsung devices (TouchWiz), is that manufacturers tend to focus on high-contrast colours. This drives me mad, positively. Lol

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    I like high contrast. Whats the point if the picture don't pop. Alot of that can be fixed with a simple samsung calibration. Samsung does calibration some of the time.
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    I like high contrast. Whats the point if the picture don't pop. Alot of that can be fixed with a simple samsung calibration. Samsung does calibration some of the time.
    High contact aren't real colours. For somebody like me (artist/creative type), to see fake colours is infuriating. It becomes ridiculous how much Samsung (TouchWiz) and Apple raise the contrast. The Nexus 10 may seem washed out by some, but there aren't many pseudo colours that plague the display and is far vivid enough at the resolution and the full brightness.

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    Well have u ever looked at a galaxy note 2 or s3? Your saying their screens suck cause they use a battery efficient bright screen technology with vibrant colors. All it needs to be done is calibrated. They are going to start in 2013 to address complaints in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    I think the Galaxy Note 10.1 does but it has a less than wow resolution
    Only galaxy tab 7.7 has AMOLED

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    Only galaxy tab 7.7 has AMOLED

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    Hope Samsung starts pushing more out in 2013 tablets. Im sick of running a backlight in my screen no matter whats on the screen. Poor black and wasteful battery guzzler. Why do i need to run the same amount of power if there is nothing but a tiny logo appears on a black screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    Hope Samsung starts pushing more out in 2013 tablets. Im sick of running a backlight in my screen no matter whats on the screen. Poor black and wasteful battery guzzler. Why do i need to run the same amount of power if there is nothing but a tiny logo appears on a black screen.
    They are still working on factories . The problem is that they can't just use old factories that produced led or lcd tech because OLED processing is so different. They started off with cell phone screens and have been slowly been ramoing up to bigger displays.

    We have the Galaxy tab 7.7 in our display room its nice. I take it at night and watch netflix on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    Well have u ever looked at a galaxy note 2 or s3? Your saying their screens suck cause they use a battery efficient bright screen technology with vibrant colors. All it needs to be done is calibrated. They are going to start in 2013 to address complaints in 2012.
    I never said they "sucked"; but, you won't find me using one frequently. I have both a S3 and a Note II. Their displays are great, yet the colours aren't what I would consider 'nice' - this is due to the high contrast. What would you consider the Nexus 10, then? You're using the adjective "vibrant" - in that case, any recent display has vibrant colours (if you use your tablet and/or smartphone at full brightness). Colours are bright and colourful, yes. This is why I keep pointing out the contrast of the colours.

    . The internet is another place where new web designers tend to use high contrast colours in order to get your attention (for better or worse, usually the former). This is what I'm talking about. Collaboration won't change much, but I always keep my Samsung (aside from the Nexus 10) devices on lowest brightness to make them slightly more reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroidXcon View Post
    They are still working on factories . The problem is that they can't just use old factories that produced led or lcd tech because OLED processing is so different. They started off with cell phone screens and have been slowly been ramoing up to bigger displays.

    We have the Galaxy tab 7.7 in our display room its nice. I take it at night and watch netflix on it

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    I love watching movies at night on amoled. It is just drop dead beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroidXcon View Post
    They are still working on factories . The problem is that they can't just use old factories that produced led or lcd tech because OLED processing is so different. They started off with cell phone screens and have been slowly been ramoing up to bigger displays.

    We have the Galaxy tab 7.7 in our display room its nice. I take it at night and watch netflix on it

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    Well considering they have been making phablets with amoled and a tablet and some flat screens, it shouldn't be to to far off. During CES they promised to make lcd mobile screens with 25% less power and i really hope they dont crap out and put that in a tablet because Amoled still uses less power than that due to the fact it can shut off each black pixel. Lcd will always require a constant back light even if its a completely black picture on the screen and quality lazyness leads to light bleed. And for those Tech nerds out there: We are talking about super Amoled HD plus. Its just alot of pointless typing so we shorten. Can't wait for for the Galaxy Note 10.1-2. I like this tablet but Im definitely going to sell My Nexus 10 for it. I like my Nexus 10 but its a battery guzzler and Graphics will feel outdated really soon. Since Samsung promised the same speed as Exynos 5 at half the power with its octo processor, better graphics, and a more efficient screen with S pen I'll have nothing to regret with my next purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    Well considering they have been making phablets with amoled and a tablet and some flat screens, it shouldn't be to to far off. During CES they promised to make lcd mobile screens with 25% less power and i really hope they dont crap out and put that in a tablet because Amoled still uses less power than that due to the fact it can shut off each black pixel. Lcd will always require a constant back light even if its a completely black picture on the screen and quality lazyness leads to light bleed. And for those Tech nerds out there: We are talking about super Amoled HD plus. Its just alot of pointless typing so we shorten. Can't wait for for the Galaxy Note 10.1-2. I like this tablet but Im definitely going to sell My Nexus 10 for it. I like my Nexus 10 but its a battery guzzler and Graphics will feel outdated really soon. Since Samsung promised the same speed as Exynos 5 at half the power with its octo processor, better graphics, and a more efficient screen with S pen I'll have nothing to regret with my next purchase.
    But that's all speculation right now. How do you know Samsung won't put another LCD screen inside the note 10.1? They may go higher resolution but it might be a pls display for all we know.

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    But that's all speculation right now. How do you know Samsung won't put another LCD screen inside the note 10.1? They may go higher resolution but it might be a pls display for all we know.

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    Because samsung has demoed the flexible oled screens at CES with more commitment and has pushed for bigger and bigger Amoled screen sizes so when tech companies announce there next biggest future technology they usually will meet you half way without giving you the best. I see it like this in screen tech lcd at the bottom amoled in the middle, flexible oled at the top. So i figure they will meet us half way with amoled. Plus if its Amoled it will have no light bleed. No light bleed means no returns. No returns equal higher profits. Plus Samsung is king with Amoled and likes to try to be different from the lcd standard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    Because samsung has demoed the flexible oled screens at CES with more commitment and has pushed for bigger and bigger Amoled screen sizes so when tech companies announce there next biggest future technology they usually will meet you half way without giving you the best. I see it like this in screen tech lcd at the bottom amoled in the middle, flexible oled at the top. So i figure they will meet us half way with amoled. Plus if its Amoled it will have no light bleed. No light bleed means no returns. No returns equal higher profits. Plus Samsung is king with Amoled and likes to try to be different from the lcd standard
    Flexible oled displays will not top samoled screens in terms of picture quality. Just because they've demoed this tech this year doesn't mean it'll show up anytime soon. This could be released next year for all we know possibly this Christmas. They said we would have 1080p displays at the begging of last year and they popped up at the end. I'm not saying it won't happen, just don't get your hopes up and then be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

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    Well I believe samsung will come through. They'd do anything to one up their competitors and battery life is one of those things that will make them consider this, to kick apple off their thrown. Hope they stick a bigger battery in to. I don't know why people scream for thinner devices when it makes holding them during gaming feel weird. Feels like holding hard cardboard pressed against my hands. I want that psp rounds into your hands feel. Man I got so off topic.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Lietz View Post
    Well considering they have been making phablets with amoled and a tablet and some flat screens, it shouldn't be to to far off. During CES they promised to make lcd mobile screens with 25% less power and i really hope they dont crap out and put that in a tablet because Amoled still uses less power than that due to the fact it can shut off each black pixel. Lcd will always require a constant back light even if its a completely black picture on the screen and quality lazyness leads to light bleed. And for those Tech nerds out there: We are talking about super Amoled HD plus. Its just alot of pointless typing so we shorten. Can't wait for for the Galaxy Note 10.1-2. I like this tablet but Im definitely going to sell My Nexus 10 for it. I like my Nexus 10 but its a battery guzzler and Graphics will feel outdated really soon. Since Samsung promised the same speed as Exynos 5 at half the power with its octo processor, better graphics, and a more efficient screen with S pen I'll have nothing to regret with my next purchase.
    Every generation of OLED technology is going to be more efficient powerwise. At the moment they are using fluorescent molecules to achieve their Green and Blue colors and phosphorescent for red. Phosphorescent is more power efficient but fluorescent lives longer. Next Gen of OLED screens will use phosphorescent Green and Red and fluorescent blue which will make it much more power efficient when they use all three colors phosphorescent you will see almost 75% more effecient display.

    But here is the bigger problem ALL companies that we have dealt with dont see this as a longer battery life. All of them want to use the efficiency gain to add in bigger processers and such. they want to take that extra gain and redirect it into other areas of the device. So either way the consumer wont see longer battery life.

    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshadow001 View Post
    But that's all speculation right now. How do you know Samsung won't put another LCD screen inside the note 10.1? They may go higher resolution but it might be a pls display for all we know.
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    This is true since i dont think they are set up to build 10" OLED displays yet, like i said they are inching their way up

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    Plus Samsung is king with Amoled and likes to try to be different from the lcd standard
    All companies even apple are looking into OLED tech. The only reason apple has not jumped in because the cost is to high when they can achieve the same success with LCD (for now)

    LG is also looking to get into OLED but again the cost is high and they tried to use qHD screens to keep up while they try to catch up to Samsungs lead in the OLED dept. but ill tell you Sumsung is super aggressive in their OLED growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DroidXcon View Post
    Every generation of OLED technology is going to be more efficient powerwise. At the moment they are using fluorescent molecules to achieve their Green and Blue colors and phosphorescent for red. Phosphorescent is more power efficient but fluorescent lives longer. Next Gen of OLED screens will use phosphorescent Green and Red and fluorescent blue which will make it much more power efficient when they use all three colors phosphorescent you will see almost 75% more effecient display.

    But here is the bigger problem ALL companies that we have dealt with dont see this as a longer battery life. All of them want to use the efficiency gain to add in bigger processers and such. they want to take that extra gain and redirect it into other areas of the device. So either way the consumer wont see longer battery life.



    This is true since i dont think they are set up to build 10" OLED displays yet, like i said they are inching their way up


    All companies even apple are looking into OLED tech. The only reason apple has not jumped in because the cost is to high when they can achieve the same success with LCD (for now)

    LG is also looking to get into OLED but again the cost is high and they tried to use qHD screens to keep up while they try to catch up to Samsungs lead in the OLED dept. but ill tell you Sumsung is super aggressive in their OLED growth.
    Like i said. Samsungs new octo processor promises the same speed at half the power. So if they did slap oled into a tablet the power gobblins will run away. Lol. Apple doesn't make their own displays so it will cost them more to buy screens from a different company so Samsung does have a edge. When someone has a edge over the competition they try to play it as fast as they can to remain on top over the competition until they can replicate it. Thats why i said they might consider it. Im not expecting flexible oled yet, just oled with gorilla glass 3 or Amoled with Gorilla Glass 3. Its not going to probably release to October again so thats why my hopes are up possible. I expect a decline in Apple product popularity just because Ces 2013 had tons of Android progress. New chips, better screen, better graphics, Most likely non sueable designs and Google is going to do something with android 5.0. Apple will probably try to push back hard in 2014.

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