Honor 7

The latest from Huawei's Honor brand boasts phenomenal value — but with a few familiar caveats ...

The quick take

Through a mix of solid hardware — in terms of performance as well as build quality — the Honor 7 finds its way into the fast-growing category of really-good-and-extremely-affordable Android phones. At a functional level, it does just about everything really well, and it packages that functionality in the kind of impressive metal chassis we've come to expect from Huawei. But just as Huawei is a strength for Honor, it's also a weakness. For some buyers, particularly Android purists, the company's highly customized EMUI software will be the biggest reason not to buy.

The good

  • Solid build quality and easy one-handed use
  • Fingerprint scanner works well
  • Speedy, lag-free performance
  • Bright, punchy display and impressive speaker
  • Excellent value for money

The bad

  • Huawei's EMUI software is overbearing as ever
  • Many software issues from the P8 left unaddressed
  • Camera hit and miss in low light
Width Height Thickness
5.64 in
143.2mm
2.83 in
71.9mm
0.33 in
8.5mm
  • Display:
    • 5.2-inch Full HD
    • LCD Display
    • 1920x1080 resolution (435ppi)
  • Camera:
    • 20.7MP, ƒ/2.0 lens
    • 5MP front-facing camera
  • Battery:
    • 3100mAh capacity
    • Quick Charging
  • Chips:
    • Octa-core Huawei Kirin 935 processor
    • 4x2.2GHz A53e cores + 4x1.5GHz A53 cores
    • 3GB RAM
    • 16GB internal storage
    • microSD slot (also second SIM slot)

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About this review

We're publishing this review after a week using a European-spec Honor 7 (PLK-L01) in the UK. Most of the time we used our review device on Vodafone UK, in areas with decent LTE and HSPA coverage and a 64GB Samsung microSD card fitted. To test the phone's dual-SIM capabilities, we used it with an EE SIM alongside the Vodafone SIM.

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Familiar, Sturdy, Dependable

Honor 7 Hardware

If you know your Huawei phones, the look and feel of the Honor 7 is pretty easy to sum up. It's basically a cross between the Mate 7 — last year's Huawei "phablet" device — and the company's current high-end offering, the P8. Although Honor is its own distinct brand in the UK, the Huawei design traits are clear to see. There's a largely untouched front face, save for the usual earpiece, camera and sensors, while the back panel serves as a reminder of Huawei's high-end phones, with a curved aluminum surface and eye-catching chamfers.

Veterans of the Honor series will find a device closer to the Honor 6 than the larger (and beefier) 6 Plus. The LCD gets a modest bump up to 5.2 inches with the same 1080p resolution, while modest hardware upgrades from the Honor 6 can be found in other areas.

This is basically the offspring of a Mate 7 and a P8.

The Honor 7 runs Huawei's homegrown 64-bit Kirin 935 CPU, an octa-core chip packing four higher-clocked "A53e" cores at up to 2.2GHz and four lower-power A53 cores at 1.5GHz. If you're keeping score here, that's basically the same as the Kirin 930 powering the Huawei P8, only at higher clock speeds. And it's paired with an ARM Mali-T624 GPU and a roomy 3GB of RAM. Elsewhere, the battery capacity stays at an ample 3,100mAh, while the front and rear cameras earn upgrades to 8 and 20 megapixels respectively. (The front camera's also grown an LED flash for low-light duckfacing.)

There's an even more significant addition around the back. The Honor 7 features a touch-activated fingerprint sensor with a few neat tricks to offer. As well as biometric security — no need to unlock first, by the way, as touching the sensor will activate it even when the phone is off — you can swipe down to open the notification shade, or up to view recent apps. The notification shortcut in particular is ridiculously useful — even on a relatively small phone like the Honor 7, reaching up to the notification shade can be troublesome, and the swipe shortcut replaces this awkward finger-gymnastics with one easy gesture. We really hope everyone working on a fingerprint-scanning phone steals this feature.

Honor 7 swipe

The new fingerprint sensor enables a couple of ridiculously useful software shortcuts.

And like just about everything else in Huawei's EMUI, these extra functions are configurable in the menus. There's also a "smart" button on the left edge, which can be programmed to load up different apps or perform various tasks on a single, double or long press. All genuinely useful stuff, though it's easy to accidentally press the "smart" button along with the power button when picking the phone up.

The Honor 7's display matches that of the P8 on paper, and we found it to be equally bright and vibrant as well. (And, anecdotally, perhaps a bit easier to see in direct sunlight.) There doesn't seem to be anything too crazy going on with contrast enhancement, though Huawei has implemented a brightness-limiting feature that adjusts the backlight brightness depending on the brightness of the image being shown.

Despite the presence of two grills, there's just a single loudspeaker to be found, located to the left of the microUSB port. Smartphone speakers are still really hit-and-miss, but the Honor 7's impressed us, and like the P8 it offers surprising volume, bass and clarity from a relatively small cutout.

In the hand, the Honor 7 feels sturdy yet classy. The top and bottom sections are plastic to allow those all-important radio waves in and out, but the main contact points are along the metal sides and back, so this isn't especially noticeable. The same goes for the slim plastic border between screen and body — which should protect the phone from knocks and scrapes as well.

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Like most Huawei phones these days, the Honor 7 nails the fundamentals.

Conventional wisdom suggests that a 5.2-inch screen is about the limit for comfortable one-handed use, and this holds true for the Honor 7. There's no in-hand slippage due to the metal body, and the combination of this screen size and the angular metal design makes the Honor 7 easy to one-hand. While it's not spectacularly thin or light, it feels solid and dependable — arguably more so than a lot of more expensive phones.

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Dual-SIM connectivity is the other big trick up the Honor 7's sleeve. The SIM tray has two slots — a primary nanoSIM slot, and a secondary slot that can hold either a second nanoSIM or a microSD card. In a country like the UK, where users aren't generally hopping between two coverage areas, dual-SIM support isn't especially useful. But it is an added bonus for frequent travelers, and doubling it up with the microSD slot means it's not wasted if you're just using one network.

As for internal storage, you're limited to 16 gigabytes, which is the bare minimum of what we'd consider acceptable from any smartphone in 2015. You'll have 10GB and change left over for your own stuff, though the SD slot may alleviate some of your storage woes.

Other hardware notables? There's a top-mounted IR blaster that works with the built-in "Smart Controller" app, allowing you to control just about anything with an IR receiver. And quick charging support is included, though we're told the bundled charger won't be quick-charge compatible. While we couldn't confirm that the phone was definitely charging at higher voltages on our Motorola Turbo Charger, it seemed to reach peak capacity pretty quickly.

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Familiar caveats

Honor 7 Software

The Honor 7 runs Huawei's EMUI 3.1 software atop Android 5.0. And if you've read our P8 review you'll know what to expect here — a heavily-skinned version of Android with a highly-customized look, a few pet hates, and system that feels at odds with Google's vision of the OS.

Though most of the things that were straight-up broken about the P8's initial firmware have been fixed, many visual and functional annoyances remain.

EMUI continues to be afflicted by visual and functional annoyances.

Aesthetically, there's a lot to like. The UI is built around circles, lines and rounded icons, with accent colors from your chosen wallpaper being included in Huawei's built-in apps. Everything, including app icons, is heavily themeable, and the library of themes has been expanded upon since the days of the P8, including some that now actually look pretty good.

The entire theming system still feels overbearing, though, and because not all the themes are up to date with the latest app icons, the experience is somewhat disjointed too. It's one of many areas of the software where we wish Huawei would have just left things alone.

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Others include the notification system, which duplicates notifications from some apps, including Gmail, and only shows notifications on the lock screen if you're using a certain lock screen style. If you're used to the relatively light touch of Samsung, HTC or LG, these changes may well be maddening. If not, then they are what they are: Different, and not necessarily for the better. In particular, Huawei's approach to "protected apps" — apps with permission to run when the screen is off — and constant notification area nags about apps using power in the background, add unnecessary mental overhead.

When it comes to overall performance and the visual cohesiveness of Huawei's own apps, there's not much to complain about. While it might not gel with Google's vision of the OS, it's clean, sharp and undeniably iOS-influenced.

You also can't fault EMUI's expansive feature set, which is surprisingly light on cruft and surprisingly heavy on genuinely useful stuff, like programmable shortcut buttons, voice-activated wake-up functionality and a wide array of camera features. But we'd still like to see a comprehensive overhaul of Huawei's software for EMUI 4.0, and hopefully see this highly customized layout replaced with something closer to vanilla Android.

We've got a more in-depth look at EMUI 3.1 in our P8 review, so check that out for more of the good, the bad and the confusing from Huawei's take on Android.

Honor 7 camera

Competent, if not spectacular

Honor 7 Camera

As smartphone hardware becomes more commoditized, imaging is one of the few areas left where traditional flagship phones have an edge. Even so, we're starting to see some impressive photographic capabilities from less expensive handsets, including Huawei's own Honor 6 Plus with its wacky dual-camera setup.

The Honor 7 opts for a traditional front and rear camera arrangement, however. There's a 20-megapixel shooter around the back, behind an f/2.0 lens with dual-tone LED flash, while the front-facer gets bumped up to 8 megapixels and is joined by a single LED of its own.

This is no Galaxy S6-beater, but it is capable across the board, and occasionally very impressive.

When you're selling a phone around the £250 price point, however, there are some trade-offs to be made. The biggest of these is the lack of optical image stabilization, which is the main reason the Honor 7 can't match the clarity of phones twice its price in low-light conditions. (And that's not unexpected, honestly.)

There is a "super night" shooting mode that combines a series of longer exposures, though this is largely useless without a tripod. We've also noticed an unfortunate tendency for the Honor 7 to miss focus in darker conditions, resulting in shots that are both blurry and grainy.

As for pics in good to moderately-lit conditions, the Honor 7 is a reliable performer across the board. Auto HDR mode dutifully kicks in to prevent washed-out skies and underexposed landscapes, keeping everything evenly lit. Overall, we have no real complaints when it comes to image quality — plenty of detail is captured thanks to the high-resolution sensor, and colors are generally accurate, if somewhat desaturated compared to the likes of the GS6 and G4.

Honor 7 camera options

Huawei's camera app also presents a bunch of useful features, including a dedicated light painting mode like the P8's, where longer exposures are used to create artistic light trail effects. You'll want to use a tripod with this feature though, as the lack of OIS makes it almost impossible to get steady, longer exposures with the phone in-hand.

As for the front camera, it's comparable with what you'd get from the current Android flagships, complete with beautification modes to either enhance your features, or make you look like a terrifying live waxwork version of yourself. There's also a front-facing LED for when the lights are low and fun things are happening, which, given the proximity to your face, takes a little getting used to.

So that's the Honor 7 camera experience — competent, capable, but not quite a match for the current flagships, or, we'd argue, the Honor 6 Plus's insane low-light capabilities. Everything about this phone needs to be considered in the context of its price, though, and with that in mind you're getting a pretty solid imaging setup for your money.

All that juice

Honor 7 Battery Life

By the numbers alone, a 3,100mAh battery should be able to provide more than enough juice for a phone like the Honor 7. The manufacturer claims heavy users will comfortable get more than a day (1.2 days, in fact) out of the phone's fixed battery, with lighter use getting you up to two days per charge.

One day with ease, or two at a squeeze.

And our experiences with the phone track pretty closely to that. Throughout more than a week of testing the Honor 7 never died on us before the day's end, even with extensive use on LTE, and with two SIMs inserted. On lighter days, which were mostly limited to Wifi usage indoors, we easily reached the evening with 50 percent or more remaining. In terms of screen-on time, we're looking at anywhere between 3.5 to 5 hours, depending on usage.

Honor 7

A word of warning on some of the battery charts displayed here: The firmware version we're using doesn't seem to display awake time and mobile network reception properly, so take both with a pinch of salt.

For all practical purposes, though, you'll simply won't need to worry about battery life if you're used to a regular nightly charging pattern. That's still not true of all high-end phones, so Huawei deserves credit where it's due.

As for charging, the Honor 7 supports quick charging — a welcome addition given the battery size — although Qualcomm's standard isn't specifically mentioned by the manufacturer. That said, Quick Charge 2.0 doesn't necessarily require a Qualcomm CPU, and as previously mentioned we've found the phone charges fast enough using a Motorola Turbo Charger.

Honor 7

A worthy contender?

Honor 7: The Bottom Line

The Honor 7's impressive array of hardware and highly competitive price point makes it worthy of your attention, and perhaps your money too. As usual, Huawei gets the hardware side of the equation right — the Honor 7 is a well-built, premium handset and a quick performer, camera capabilities that stand out in the mid-range space. EMUI, despite its flaws, adds genuinely useful capabilities, and has a coherent look throughout, even when themed.

The brand is different, but the hardware and software remains the same.

But we think it's time for an overhaul of Huawei's software experience. From the confusing notification and background app management system to the overbearing way in which EMUI takes over icons and status bar colors, there's plenty here to irritate Android purists. If that's you, that could be a reason not to buy.

Ultimately, as much as Honor is a distinct brand in its own right, its handsets' triumphs and foibles run in parallel with the parent company's. You're still getting a Huawei phone through-and-through, with all the benefits and annoyances that brings.

Should you buy the Honor 7? Maybe

We keep saying this over and over, and we'll have to do so again here: Huawei makes great hardware — really great hardware. But software continues to be a glaring weak point. For that reason we can't recommend the Honor 7 unreservedly, but it is worthy of your consideration if you're shopping around for a capable new mid-range handset. But the Honor 7 has tons of competition from countless rivals, and you'd be wise to take a look at the hardware-software balance from the likes of Alcatel, Motorola and ASUS before parting with your cash.

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    Would / are you willing to give up LTE and switch to hspa+ to use the Nexus 4? Or is no LTE a deal breaker for you?
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    Would / are you willing to give up LTE and switch to hspa+ to use the Nexus 4? Or is no LTE a deal breaker for you?
    This is all subjective to area but I wouldn't just because tmobile isn't that great In ny area and at&ts service is spotty at best

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    I gave up a razr on Verizon with lte coverage at home/work for a galaxy note on straight talk. With wifi most places and hspa+ 21 its not that big of a deal. Difference in me spending $125+ a month vs $50. Lte isn't worth $75 extra a month to me.

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    Yes I will give up my LTE because I rarely use it. LTE drains battery life and 3G speeds are good enough for me.

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    I've had LTE for about 4 months. Initially, you get hooked on speed, but then you start to realize the trade offs. Battery life, only available in cities, ripping through your data plan (if you are going to use it a lot, you'd better be on an unlimited plan!).

    Personally, I find it a "nice to have" feature. I plan to buy a Nexus 4, primarily to use for International travel, but I won't rule out switching to it full time if I can find a GSM carrier with good coverage in my area at a resonable, off contract, price.
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    I have a question regarding AT&T's network. I'm currently using the GS3, I drove around until the phone connected to hspa+ (no lte), and got 6.5mbps down and 1.5 up, which is more than enough for me. My question is will the nexus 4 connect to the hspa+ network where ever I currently connect to the LTE network with my GS3? Or are there just random pockets of hspa+ and the rest is just regular 3g?
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    This is a good question. I've got the GS3 with AT&T and speeds have been awesome. I'm in the DC area. Get HSPA+ at the office and LTE at home. I came over from Sprint about 4 months ago and have been extremely impressed. Even with the HSPA+ speeds. However, sometimes I notice the HSPA+ gets bogged down. Hangs a bit when trying to load browser pages and so on. I have never once had a problem with LTE. I know people complain about their battery with LTE, but on days that I'm home on LTE, I can still get my battery to last 12-14 hours. It's pretty awesome. My speeds are pretty consistent on HSPA+ around 7mbps down and 1 up. Not great, but still pretty good. LTE is blazing at over 17 down and over 5 up.

    That is what makes the switch so tough. However, I really miss having a nexus device. I have the Nexus7, but I really do like the Nexus4. So I'm most likely going to pull the trigger and see how it is. My experience with the GS3 has been great, but having pure 4.2 has got to be awesome. Once I test it out I'll make a decision on which device I'll keep.
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    I have my phone through work (Galaxy Nexus on VZW) and I can switch between AT&T and Verizon whenever I want. I was prepared to switch to AT&T to get the Nexus 4 but I think I will probably just stick with the Galaxy Nexus after some thought. Right now I have LTE, unlimited data, always latest version of Android since I run Bugless Beast, 32GB of storage, etc. If I switched I would get a better camera, quicker phone, no unlimited data, much slower data speeds (especially with HSPA+ on AT&T, I know T-Mobile is decent), 16GB storage.

    I just don't think it's worth it for me to give up unlimited data and go down to 1.5-3mb down. I've never seen good speeds on AT&T with HSPA+ around here. The main draw would be the latest version of Android which I already have.

    I'll still think about it but I don't think the pros outweigh the cons at this point.
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    Would / are you willing to give up LTE and switch to hspa+ to use the Nexus 4? Or is no LTE a deal breaker for you?
    I have the GS3 on Verizon 4G LTE and I think I am making the switch.
    The 4G in my area is blazing fast, however, my per month price is much higher than I want it to be since I am now paying more for limited data. Although I called Verizon customer service and they offered to discount my $50/5GB plan to $40 for the year (saving me $120), and have the price go back up to $50 a year later. Still not worth it.
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    Don't have LTE yet. But I'll give up my Sprint crappy 3G speeds for T-Mobile HSPA+!!
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    I'm in Chicago and no I wouldn't give up sprint or lte for tmo or att

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    No, it's a deal breaker for me. I’m surrounded by Verizon LTE with grandfathered unlimited data yet, not to mention they have the best cell service where I live, so I’d be crazy to give that up. It’s moot anyway as even if the Nexus 4 were available on Verizon with LTE, the non user-replaceable battery is the bigger deal breaker. I want the CHOICE of being able to swap out for a fresh battery on the fly and tether to a charge as a last resort.
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    I've been getting 7mbps down on AT&T's HSPA+ network in south florida, if the coverage is similar to 4g, there's no doubt I'm getting the Nexus.
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    My wife has the Galaxy S3, I've tried out her phone with LTE, while the speeds are fantastic, it's a huge battery hog and I turned it off her phone to save battery. If I had it on my phone I would probably keep it off most of the time too. In addition, I'm on wifi at home and work so 90% of the time i'd be on wifi anyway.
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    Would / are you willing to give up LTE and switch to hspa+ to use the Nexus 4? Or is no LTE a deal breaker for you?
    Yes. Absolutely.

    Of course, I have an HTC Thunderbolt, which is one of the first actual implementations of LTE, and it sucks.

    But even so, I'd rather have software updates and lack of carrier bloat than accept the compromises necessary to get LTE, which requires carrier intervention in the software.

    My next phone WILL BE A NEXUS, and if that requires ditching LTE to keep carriers from interfering with software upgrades, so be it.
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    I would give up LTE on Verizon to go to Tmobile since my kids get good signal and speeds on their phones, the question is when we travel to Cali, Texas or leave the Phoenix area then Verizon has 3G while my kids don't have nothing. I love being able to listen to Pandora or Slacker without issues while on the road. And now with less storage on phones, how will having Music on the cloud help without a signal?
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    I'm on Sprint. I have the CDMA Galaxy Nexus. I had the Nexus S before it.

    Google has flat out alienated me.

    I have a CDMA carrier, I'm happy, I'm on a family plan heavily discounted through my employer, I'm not leaving.

    These excuses by Google simply don't fly with me.

    You can't allow me to purchase two prior great nexus devices, and then when the next generation comes out, say sorry, GSM only...

    That sh!t just stinks. And it stinks bad.

    It's alienation, period.

    There's no good excuse here, period.

    It cost extra to add a radio? Bull sh!t, Samsung didn't have any issue. Hell, LG has a flipping LTE phone coming out right beside this one, just skinned!

    Failed user experience? I love my galaxy nexus!

    Slow android updates sure to carrier compatibility? WHAT THE EFF IS APPLE DOING? NEW iOS, Update rolls out, you plug that sh!t into iTunes, and its done!

    Seriously, this just bums me out.

    All excuses are a dog and pony show...that's a fact.

    What's next? The GS4 GSM only?

    .....get real Google, we all know this has nothing to do with manufacturing costs, user experiences, etc.

    I think LG has a major roll with this flop, and you don't want to hurt their feelings be saying do.

    No CDMA nexus... what the crap is that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalSammich View Post
    I'm on Sprint. I have the CDMA Galaxy Nexus. I had the Nexus S before it.

    Google has flat out alienated me.

    I have a CDMA carrier, I'm happy, I'm on a family plan heavily discounted through my employer, I'm not leaving.

    These excuses by Google simply don't fly with me.

    You can't allow me to purchase two prior great nexus devices, and then when the next generation comes out, say sorry, GSM only...

    That sh!t just stinks. And it stinks bad.

    It's alienation, period.

    There's no good excuse here, period.

    It cost extra to add a radio? Bull sh!t, Samsung didn't have any issue. Hell, LG has a flipping LTE phone coming out right beside this one, just skinned!

    Failed user experience? I love my galaxy nexus!

    Slow android updates sure to carrier compatibility? WHAT THE EFF IS APPLE DOING? NEW iOS, Update rolls out, you plug that sh!t into iTunes, and its done!

    Seriously, this just bums me out.

    All excuses are a dog and pony show...that's a fact.

    What's next? The GS4 GSM only?

    .....get real Google, we all know this has nothing to do with manufacturing costs, user experiences, etc.

    I think LG has a major roll with this flop, and you don't want to hurt their feelings be saying do.

    No CDMA nexus... what the crap is that?



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    I agree I rather have a nexus and get updates weeks late on a cdma carrier then no nexus at all and I agree why can Apple push updates on Sprint and Verizon no problem but Google had problems in the past

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    Default Re: People currently with 4G LTE

    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalSammich View Post
    I'm on Sprint. I have the CDMA Galaxy Nexus. I had the Nexus S before it.

    Google has flat out alienated me.

    I have a CDMA carrier, I'm happy, I'm on a family plan heavily discounted through my employer, I'm not leaving.

    These excuses by Google simply don't fly with me.

    You can't allow me to purchase two prior great nexus devices, and then when the next generation comes out, say sorry, GSM only...

    That sh!t just stinks. And it stinks bad.

    It's alienation, period.

    There's no good excuse here, period.

    It cost extra to add a radio? Bull sh!t, Samsung didn't have any issue. Hell, LG has a flipping LTE phone coming out right beside this one, just skinned!

    Failed user experience? I love my galaxy nexus!

    Slow android updates sure to carrier compatibility? WHAT THE EFF IS APPLE DOING? NEW iOS, Update rolls out, you plug that sh!t into iTunes, and its done!

    Seriously, this just bums me out.

    All excuses are a dog and pony show...that's a fact.

    What's next? The GS4 GSM only?

    .....get real Google, we all know this has nothing to do with manufacturing costs, user experiences, etc.

    I think LG has a major roll with this flop, and you don't want to hurt their feelings be saying do.

    No CDMA nexus... what the crap is that?



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    I'm sorry....Where is the LTE Samsung phone for $299? I missed the boat on that one!

    You sir are an upset child whining because you can't have what you want. Its plain and simple. The excuses are not a "dog and pony show". They are what they are.

    So if this has nothing to do with costs, user experience, or etc? Did they just magically roll a die and that was the way they decided? Is that your theory here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woosh View Post
    I'm sorry....Where is the LTE Samsung phone for $299? I missed the boat on that one!

    You sir are an upset child whining because you can't have what you want. Its plain and simple. The excuses are not a "dog and pony show". They are what they are.

    So if this has nothing to do with costs, user experience, or etc? Did they just magically roll a die and that was the way they decided? Is that your theory here?
    First of all I left LTE out of this discussion..

    And I leave theory to the theorists..

    Read over my post again, maybe it will sink in this time.

    This is strictly a situation where there had been no issues with providing a CDMA nexus TWICE before, and now they are just going to make it one sided.

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    I have LTE on Verizon and I like it. LTE though isn't the deal breaker, its Verizon's overall coverage. In my experience a Verizon cell works in more places than the competition. If I didn't have Verizon I would probably go with straight talk or another pre paid plan with a sim. Right now I have the galaxy nexus, but the other phones on the verizon are very good though, and the fact that motorola is google owned makes owning a non nexus a little easier, i.e. if I had one of the razr HD phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalSammich View Post
    First of all I left LTE out of this discussion..

    And I leave theory to the theorists..

    Read over my post again, maybe it will sink in this time.

    This is strictly a situation where there had been no issues with providing a CDMA nexus TWICE before, and now they are just going to make it one sided.

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    That's all well and good but how do you know your stupid carrier was't the reason they didn't get this device? Google can't make a phone to work for your carrier and they will say "Oh great, I'd love to activate that". The GN did NOT sell well on either of the CDMA carriers so I can understand them not even breaking to Google's will as far as updates go. That certainly would and likely did play a part in the ability to carry the phone.

    Secondly....You didn't leave LTE out of the discussion. Read your post again about LG already bringing an LTE phone to your network. That likely is another reason it should be a non issue for you, grab the Optimus G. It looks like a nice phone.

    The FACT is that Google didn't just do this on a whim to hurt your feelings. The motives seem rather clear to me and whether or not they are ALL correct or maybe they are all wrong. Idk, but they had to have a good reason to leave out 130 million Americans without a phone.

    But, you still have choices. You can drop the carrier or you can grab any other phone you want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woosh View Post
    That's all well and good but how do you know your stupid carrier was't the reason they didn't get this device? Google can't make a phone to work for your carrier and they will say "Oh great, I'd love to activate that". The GN did NOT sell well on either of the CDMA carriers so I can understand them not even breaking to Google's will as far as updates go. That certainly would and likely did play a part in the ability to carry the phone.

    Secondly....You didn't leave LTE out of the discussion. Read your post again about LG already bringing an LTE phone to your network. That likely is another reason it should be a non issue for you, grab the Optimus G. It looks like a nice phone.

    The FACT is that Google didn't just do this on a whim to hurt your feelings. The motives seem rather clear to me and whether or not they are ALL correct or maybe they are all wrong. Idk, but they had to have a good reason to leave out 130 million Americans without a phone.

    But, you still have choices. You can drop the carrier or you can grab any other phone you want to.
    As a consumer, Google has created a forced decision upon me.

    If I want this phone, I have to change my carrier.

    When someone says to you, if you want this, you have to do this to get it, or you can't have it, how does that make you feel?

    Now add that to the fact, they never made you make this choice two times prior.

    I'm sorry, but that doesn't work for me.

    I've enjoyed the nexus line on CDMA for a few years to boot, and now for some reason that cannot be properly explained to me, I'm no longer able to enjoy the product going forward.

    I'm just ticked to death. I guess when Nissan stops producing the car I like to give the idea over to Hyundai to build, I will have to go buy a Hyundai....

    ...right?

    Google = Open / Open = All Carriers, or does open now mean something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalSammich View Post
    I'm on Sprint. I have the CDMA Galaxy Nexus. I had the Nexus S before it.

    Google has flat out alienated me.

    I have a CDMA carrier, I'm happy, I'm on a family plan heavily discounted through my employer, I'm not leaving.

    These excuses by Google simply don't fly with me.

    You can't allow me to purchase two prior great nexus devices, and then when the next generation comes out, say sorry, GSM only...

    That sh!t just stinks. And it stinks bad.

    It's alienation, period.

    There's no good excuse here, period.

    It cost extra to add a radio? Bull sh!t, Samsung didn't have any issue. Hell, LG has a flipping LTE phone coming out right beside this one, just skinned!

    Failed user experience? I love my galaxy nexus!

    Slow android updates sure to carrier compatibility? WHAT THE EFF IS APPLE DOING? NEW iOS, Update rolls out, you plug that sh!t into iTunes, and its done!

    Seriously, this just bums me out.

    All excuses are a dog and pony show...that's a fact.

    What's next? The GS4 GSM only?

    .....get real Google, we all know this has nothing to do with manufacturing costs, user experiences, etc.

    I think LG has a major roll with this flop, and you don't want to hurt their feelings be saying do.

    No CDMA nexus... what the crap is that?



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    There is an article that explains how making a LTE/CDMA nexus wouldn't fly because those networks aren't open as gsm is. The phone is locked down on CDMA all the updates need to go through Verizon first. Which defeats the whole purpose of the nexus being Google's flagship. And I'm sure Google could care less about missing out on a couple bucks they would make with a lte nexus they only have 100 other android phones making money for them.

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    ...and I agree why can Apple push updates on Sprint and Verizon no problem but Google had problems in the past
    Apple is a single line of handsets that can pretty much guarantee millions of handsets for a specific carrier. AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon each have dedicated teams of people working with Apple to add their "special sauce" (radio drivers) to the base Apple firmware so when rollout day hits for a new iOS version (which happens 1-2 times a year) the firmware is ready and tested across the entire iOS install base. Apple release dates are regular and infrequent, and long-planned.

    Google Nexus devices are a completely different beast. First, they represent a minority of Android sales, and a far lower install base than iPhones, probably by an order of magnitude. Second, updates to Nexus phones come out MUCH more frequently. When I got my Nexus Seven in July, it was already back one release before I powered it on (installed 4.1.1 the day I bought it). It's received another update (4.1.2) and a new release (4.2) is forthcoming in a matter of weeks (most likely).

    Imagine having to partner with three carriers and tell them that they'd need to support a new update every two months for 500,000 handsets, when they are accustomed to selling 5,000,000 handsets and needing updates to them once or twice a year.

    It's little wonder that Verizon and Sprint don't want to play ball this time around, and without their support Google simply cannot offer phones on their networks, because that's the way they run their networks. AT&T and other GSM-based US carriers have all pretty much implemented the same version of GSM with the same protocols and a defined set of frequencies. Build a GSM/CDMA/EDGE/HSPA+ phone and you'll get at least a decent 3G and possibly "Faux"G experience across a whole boodle of carriers, and the carriers don't need to be involved in building or testing the firmware.

    Build a CDMA phone and you'll have to choose what carrier you want to run it on, and you'll need a different version for each carrier, and the carrier has to "play ball" or you can't connect.
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