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    Default Re: Is Google moving forward of backward with their Nexus devices?

    Nexus hasn't had an SD card slot for a while. On screen buttons are starting to happen on a lot of phones. And non removable battery makes for a much more quality feel. No problems with any of it. If they could put those things in there without raising the price that'd be great. But if those things raised the price I'd say hell no to all of it

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    I don't think of it as going backwards but not including Atleast an SD slot is bad imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaze5 View Post
    I don't think of it as going backwards but not including Atleast an SD slot is bad imo

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    But the last 3 haven't so wasn't it a little expected for this one to not have one?

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    The only thing I'm wanting in the new nexus is Lte but panda hinted that Verizon may give the nexus another shot on his twitter. So I'm thinking we will see another VZW nexus early next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanr509 View Post
    But the last 3 haven't so wasn't it a little expected for this one to not have one?

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    Yea your right but it would have been a nice surprise either way It doesn't make it a bad phone just not usable for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnguyen0320 View Post
    This is a very good point. I totally forgot about that fee to microsoft. Makes sense but I'd be willing to pay that $15 plus the cost of making the slot for extra space for movies, pics, and music.
    I agree. I am fine without both features as long as I have enough power and have enough storage. But the reality of it is that in certain situations you need more power and need more space. 16GB as the largest available size is in my opinion just too small in this day and age. The 8gb option shouldn't even be an option. The battery should be pretty good day to day but I think anyone who travels will miss not being able to swap their battery.

    Also I truly believe one of the reasons the Sgs3 kicked HTC's **** in sales was because they included the removable battery and storage. It may not matter to a lot of people but it is still important to many users as this thread will attest. I know we can go get a sgs3 instead but we all want a nexus device too, so it's not so cut and dry.

    If the N4 came with a 3000 mha battery and 64gb of storage I don't think we would be having this conversation.

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    Moving backwards - no.
    However, would I like a removable battery - yes. My GNex lasts 6 hours at best so I always carry a second battery...and no I don't want an ugly extended battery.
    So I really hope I can get a decent 12 hours out of the one Nexus 4 battery.

    Other than that, I couldn't care less about SD storage - I'm getting the 16GB model so that's enough for me.

    I wish they had LTE but hopefully Tmo in San Francisco will support the 42MB speeds & I understand them cutting LTE to keep the cost way down so I'm fine with that decision.

    Would be nice though if they had a 399$ that included LTE & 32GB but that's likely just wishful thinking as that would probably all but eliminate the competition from other OEM's...and Google needs to keep them happy. Imagine that though *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    I agree. I am fine without both features as long as I have enough power and have enough storage. But the reality of it is that in certain situations you need more power and need more space. 16GB as the largest available size is in my opinion just too small in this day and age. The 8gb option shouldn't even be an option. The battery should be pretty good day to day but I think anyone who travels will miss not being able to swap their battery.

    Also I truly believe one of the reasons the Sgs3 kicked HTC's **** in sales was because they included the removable battery and storage. It may not matter to a lot of people but it is still important to many users as this thread will attest. I know we can go get a sgs3 instead but we all want a nexus device too, so it's not so cut and dry.

    If the N4 came with a 3000 mha battery and 64gb of storage I don't think we would be having this conversation.

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    Just because some of us may be able to live without these features on most days, it doesn't mean that it's a step forward to eliminate them. For example, I don't travel all the time, so I can probably live without being able to swap my battery most of the time, but it is always nice to have the option when I do need it.

    I'm actually close to filling up my 16 GB GNex, so the lack of a 32 GB Nexus 4 is a real bummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solutions Etcetera View Post
    As for storage, there will always be those folks where there is never enough. I have a colleague that, no matter how much storage he has, it is full. I have over 6gb free on a 16gb device. Not sure what the norm is, but am guessing it is more like me than him.
    Yeah a lot of us get used to what we have and we adapt. Your friend is adapting to his sizes and using all of it. I have a 16gb iphone and i have 9gb free but I dont have any music because I figured if i cant get all my music and videos on here why even put them on at all? So if i had expandable storage, I wouldn't have to live without my music and videos. I have 200mb of data so I try to limit my data usage and can't stream my content without wifi.

    I don't think its backwards if they don't do expandable storage since they are pushing the future of "cloud" computing but its definitely not what consumers want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnguyen0320 View Post
    Yeah a lot of us get used to what we have and we adapt. Your friend is adapting to his sizes and using all of it. I have a 16gb iphone and i have 9gb free but I dont have any music because I figured if i cant get all my music and videos on here why even put them on at all? So if i had expandable storage, I wouldn't have to live without my music and videos. I have 200mb of data so I try to limit my data usage and can't stream my content without wifi.

    I don't think its backwards if they don't do expandable storage since they are pushing the future of "cloud" computing but its definitely not what consumers want.
    The future won't be cloud if the future of wireless data is tiered plans.
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    Internet plans has come a long way from dial-up though
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    I don't mind losing expandable storage as long as the internal drive is large enough. I'm apathetic about on-screen navigation buttons; as long as they're implemented well it makes little difference. A removable battery is nice, but how much you need it depends upon how good the battery is in the first place. Really it all comes down to design decisions and usage case. Of course, some people won't buy a phone with or lacking certain features purely on principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 View Post
    The future won't be cloud if the future of wireless data is tiered plans.
    I disagree. The future is in the cloud. The reason why prices have gone up and gone into tiering is because there is more demand and it is harder to supply the bandwidth. Hopefully, when carriers begin to expand prices will go down again. Plus here is a very good point: many places are starting to provide wifi for their customers, residents, employees, etc. I honestly don't see why any place, be it a business or whatever, doesn't provide free wifi. Soon, almost everywhere you go will have wifi. Unless you drive yourself to work or spend lots of time in the wilderness or anywhere where there isnt wifi, you should be able to connect. Planes have wifi now... Soon we'll get wifi in subways, trains, buses. It might even be possible to get it in your car soon. The cloud is getting cheaper and there is a future there, however it isn't now and thats why I still think its still necessary to give us expandable storage or at the very least, bigger internal storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 View Post
    The future won't be cloud if the future of wireless data is tiered plans.
    This is a transitional time, sooner or later data is going to become so cheap that while it might not be 'unlimited' the cost of each extra unit will be marginal.
    All the costs to the provider are up front in setting up the system, if you use 3gb or 4gb or 100gb in a given month their expenses don't change. They might have to invest more to keep up with the demand, but the market will reward those who do and those who don't will go out of business.
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    I may be confused but aren't you able to access "the cloud" using wifi? Yes I do get that it is a hassle considering it is your material but it is still doable. Wifi seems to be everywhere now. Also while AT&T and VZW have got rid of their unlimited data there are still several other companies that have it; both post and pre-paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burleson90 View Post
    I may be confused but aren't you able to access "the cloud" using wifi? Yes I do get that it is a hassle considering it is your material but it is still doable. Wifi seems to be everywhere now. Also while AT&T and VZW have got rid of their unlimited data there are still several other companies that have it; both post and pre-paid.
    My point exactly but when on a run, no wifi, i'd like to have more storage. On my drive to school, no wifi. There are little times when i dont have wifi so id like more space.
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    I have to pay for WiFi on the road. Like $10 for 24 or $5 for a hour. Speeds are slow and unreliable. My vzw lte is fast and reliable. I'd more then gladly pay $500 for a vzw nexus4 or even more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Burleson90 View Post
    I may be confused but aren't you able to access "the cloud" using wifi? Yes I do get that it is a hassle considering it is your material but it is still doable. Wifi seems to be everywhere now. Also while AT&T and VZW have got rid of their unlimited data there are still several other companies that have it; both post and pre-paid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cnguyen0320 View Post
    My point exactly but when on a run, no wifi, i'd like to have more storage. On my drive to school, no wifi. There are little times when i dont have wifi so id like more space.
    Thick about future pricing, Data caps will be reduced it requires competition. Like in Australia we see ex-pats complain how expensive our internet is compared to the UK because lack competition. In some states they are trialling free wifi on public transport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 View Post
    If you're referring to T-Mobile's $30 prepaid plan, the data is actually soft-capped at 5 GB per month. If I have to stream from the cloud every time I want to listen to my music, or watch my videos, I'd go over that regularly.
    I don't understand why people don't just download ("store offline" ) the music they want to hear next while they're on Wifi. Or 4G ... it's not THAT much data.

    The conceit that ALL your music has to be available to listen to (stream, retrieve, whatever) was promoted by none other than Apple. When they had a swankin' music player to sell. :rolleyes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChromeJob View Post
    I don't understand why people don't just download ("store offline") the music they want to hear next while they're on Wifi. Or 4G ... it's not THAT much data.

    The conceit that ALL your music has to be available to listen to (stream, retrieve, whatever) was promoted by none other than Apple. When they had a in' music player to sell. :rolleyes:
    I find now i destroyed my hard drive its so how I find more enjoyable youtubing all the old songs and rediscovering them again. sounds silly i know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairclough View Post
    Thick about future pricing, Data caps will be reduced it requires competition. Like in Australia we see ex-pats complain how expensive our internet is compared to the UK because lack competition. In some states they are trialling free wifi on public transport.
    Pricing largely depends on competition and ease. If it gets easier to get the data bandwidth to people, itll get cheaper too
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    The ease bit, forgot about that considering my country (Australia) is pretty large with only about 20million people.
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    Is no one else concerned about using public WiFi hot spots such as Starbucks? It is incredibly easy to steal UN/PW from.
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    I would have no problems with the nexus 4 if it came in 32gb at least. 16 is too small. For people who say the cloud is the future what happens when you don't have service. I live in NYC so I comute a lot and the cloud does not work all that well. Every time I take the subway I lose service and I could be underground for 30-1 hour. If I forgot dl the music before I got into the station I'm screwed. Also I just went through sandy and we got power with in 2 days but I had no cell service for over 4. My phone was useless because all my stuff was in the cloud. The cloud is cool but at least give us enough space to store our files just incase it doesn't work. Nexus devices should come in 16/32/64 if they are going to eliminate expandable storage
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    Each previous nexus device has been a small incremental update. The nexus one had a 1ghz cpu and an amoled screen. The nexus s had a little bit bigger super amoled screen and a bit faster 1ghz cpu. The galaxy nexus had a HD super amoled screen and a dual core cpu. None of the sequels were actually noticably better or faster than the one before. They were all really good phones, but they weren't anything "amazing". It also seemed that they were always a generation behind in the specs department. The cpu's weren't cutting edge, the displays were of the lower quality of the spectrum, the cameras have always been complete crap. The designs were just clones of other devices on the market: The nexus one was the same design and form of a Droid Eris. The nexus S was a Galaxy S with a curved screen. The Galaxy nexus was a Galaxy S2. None of them were truly innovative designs that stood out in the crowd.

    This brings me now to the Nexus 7... There was nothing on the market like it. Yes there were several 7" android tablets, but none that it shared any similarities with. The design is unique, minimalistic, and very durable. Also nothing could match the specs of it at the price it is. It was the first truly original nexus design, one that was pleasing and stands out against everything else in it's class.

    Next up is the Nexus 10, once again it's design is completely unique to it's form factor. It isn't a clone of any other of Samsung's 10" tablets. It has curves that no other tablet has, it's made out of a material that is on no other tablet. It is a solid and sleek looking device. And lets not forget the absolutely phenomenal screen resolution on this device. Retina? Nope. It makes retina look like an SDTV. There is no equivalent to even compare its to. It's in a class of its own. Samsung and Google spared no expense in the spec department. The absolute first device sporting an ARM A-15 cpu, and it's Samsung's own Exynos design. This tablet is an absolute MONSTER. It is the fastest mobile device EVER. Nothing on the market in Android's corner or any of their competitors can even come close to the power of this tablet. This is really the first serious 10" tablet that can take the iPad head on and beat it in every category. Google did it's homework with this device and unleashed a MONSTER.

    Finally, the Nexus 4. Sleek, beautiful, stunning, polished... Words that have never been used to explain the design of an LG phone... I didn't quite think that LG had the capability of creating a device worthy of the Nexus name, especially not a Nexus phone of this quality. I think they surprised the whole world with this one. Glass, beautiful glass. This is the most classy Android device ever put on the market. Not just the most classy phone, the most classy device, period. The HTC One X is a beautiful device, so is the Galaxy S3, but neither of these phones can even hold a candle to what LG has achieved in the design category. Did I mention how beautiful of a phone this is? This phone isn't just a step forward in the right direction... It is a leap, not a leap across a ditch, a leap from one continent to another continent over a humongous ocean. This device deserves the Nexus name more than any device before it. It had taken everything that was good in the previous nexus phones and polished every aspect. It took all the shortcomings of the previous nexus phones, chewed them up, spit them out, and flushed them down the toilet. This is the perfect phone. Once again, Google has unleashed another beast of a device. Housing the fastest, most cutting (bleeding) edge technology available, upgrading upon every previous spec in the past nexus phones, and giving it a layer of polish that is next to none. This phone will not soon be beaten. They nailed it this time. Every shortcoming of the Galaxy Nexus was addressed, modified, tweaked, improved upon and optimized.

    I'm very proud of what Google has brought to the table this time around. They have been listening. They have been studying. They have been doing their homework. They have created devices this time around that aren't only competitive, but that have actually raised the bar so high that every single partner and competitor now has a LOT of catching up to do.
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