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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Droidintorrance View Post
    I'll have to confirm that.. from what a couple of T-Mo repts told me, once my 100-mins is up, it just stops working... Data should still work, but I'll have to reset my month if I want voice back, even if I have a few dollars on the account for overages...
    Basically, just go to T-Mobile.com (or any other method you prefer) and make an advance payment on your account in any amount you wish. When your 100 minutes are used up, they will begin charging you $0.10 per additional minute used. Any money not "spent" will simply roll over into the next month or, if there is enough there, will be used towards your $30 monthly plan charge.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by natehoy View Post
    Your friends shouldn't need to sign up for VoIP. I have an old Linksys PAP2 at home that I've configured with IPKall (gives you a POTS phone number and forwards it to a VoIP line for free) and a free VoIP line through a service provider I can't remember at the moment - Gizmo maybe?. The IPKAll number is set up on her Google Voice as a ring-forward, and when someone calls her she simply picks up the VoIP line if she's home, saving her cell minutes (we are on a plan with her that includes no minutes, so calling is 11 cents a minute for her on cell). When she wants to make an outbound call, she goes to Google Voice on our web browser and initiates the call from there, telling GV that she wants to use IPKall on her end. Our VoIP line rings, she picks up, and the other side starts ringing.

    GrooveIP works the same way, except all on the phone itself and much more seamlessly. I just couldn't convince my wife to add a VoIP line to her phone because when it rings both the Groove and regular lines were ringing simultaneously on the phone, and that gets confusing. So we just set up a dedicated VoIP line that uses a landline handset.
    I meant if you make calls with a service like Skype, Tango, Fring, or Viber. Then both parties have to be on the same platform.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    My main thing is that I want to get the unlimited data plan and use VOIP for phone calls. I will try it for a month I guess. If it works on most of the roads I use in town it wil cover 95% of my usage needs.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by DNicolasL View Post
    I meant if you make calls with a service like Skype, Tango, Fring, or Viber. Then both parties have to be on the same platform.
    Ah, when Tacoman said "get a number on Skype" I thought he was referring to Skype's availability of POTS numbers, so you can call to and from regular phones, cell phones, etc. Skype (direct), Fring, Viber, Google Talk, etc are obviously birds of a different color.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by natehoy View Post
    Ah, when someone said "get a number on Skype" I thought they were referring to Skype's availability of POTS numbers, so you can call to and from regular phones, cell phones, etc.
    I meant to get a skype phone number that you can have GV forward to. This would also allow you to make calls from it but I wouldn't unless you go through GV first so that the GV number shows in their caller id. I think it's like $5-10/mo.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoman667 View Post
    I meant to get a skype phone number that you can have GV forward to. This would also allow you to make calls from it but I wouldn't unless you go through GV first so that the GV number shows in their caller id. I think it's like $5-10/mo.
    Yes. I'd try GrooveIP first, since the free app provides plenty of functionality (basically I think everything but calling over cell data). If that doesn't work out for you, you could invest in a month or two of Skype (which is going to be a little more clumsy for outbound calls, but if GrooveIP's codec is unacceptable and Skype's works well for you, there you go).
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    I haven't used GrooveIP yet, but I did sign up for the TMO $30 prepaid plan and couldn't be happier. A little snafu when I signed up over the phone as I got a $30 1000min, 30MB of data and didn't realize until about 30mins later I received a TMO free text saying I was over my data limit! LMAO... Called back and they switched it back ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickacs View Post
    I haven't used GrooveIP yet, but I did sign up for the TMO $30 prepaid plan and couldn't be happier. A little snafu when I signed up over the phone as I got a $30 1000min, 30GB of data and didn't realize until about 30mins later I received a TMO free text saying I was over my data limit! LMAO... Called back and they switched it back ASAP.
    He means 30mb ;-)
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    I had ZERO problems.

    Ordered the microsim online for 99 cents with free shipping, comes with a $3.34 credit towards the first month (in other words, better than free). The crazy thing was they offered me free USPS, PAID UPS, or FREE UPS Next Day!!!! Duh!!!

    Sim Card Activation Kit For Prepaid Phone or Unlocked iPhone | T-Mobil

    Went to the webpage they refer you to in the activation instructions, was offered this plan, activated it with no problem. I used the IMEI 15 9's "trick" I doubt it was necessary.

    I'm still fooling around with the best settings for Groove IP. Echo cancellation is NOT enabled by default, a lot of setting available for customization.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by nickacs View Post
    I haven't used GrooveIP yet, but I did sign up for the TMO $30 prepaid plan and couldn't be happier. A little snafu when I signed up over the phone as I got a $30 1000min, 30MB of data and didn't realize until about 30mins later I received a TMO free text saying I was over my data limit! LMAO... Called back and they switched it back ASAP.
    Got a microsim activation kit from the following

    Sim Card Activation Kit For Prepaid Phone or Unlocked iPhone | T-Mobil

    The activation instructions provide a website, hard to screw up. Card was 99 cents with free shipping, they even gave me a $3.34 credit towards first month.

    I'm thrilled with the package, I get good service, loving my Nexus 4 (first smartphone, glad I waited)
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by N4Newbie View Post
    Basically, just go to T-Mobile.com (or any other method you prefer) and make an advance payment on your account in any amount you wish. When your 100 minutes are used up, they will begin charging you $0.10 per additional minute used. Any money not "spent" will simply roll over into the next month or, if there is enough there, will be used towards your $30 monthly plan charge.
    Add a few extra dollars to your account at tmobile. Extra minutes are only 10 cents each, but you have to have the money in your account. So instead of $30, put in $35 and you'll have 50 extra minutes in reserve. And you can check at my.t-mobile.com to find out how many minutes you've used (the other methods of checking have been unreliable for me)
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    We still have a 700 minutes MyFaves Family Plan with unlimited data. With all four lines we never touch the 700 minute cap, I have GrooVe IP on my NEXUS 4 and set up call forwarding from my regular line to my GVoice number for when I'm on WiFi only in our apartment or on 3G/4G outside and the caller might only have my original number. Its quite a seamless, good experience so far. T-Mobile's latest iteration of their Visual Voicemail app now includes banner ads so I set up Voice to be my Voicemail Box.
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    I have not had much luck with GrooveIP. Poor voice quality, volume control issues, not being able to answer and place calls at times (all on Wi-Fi). Only one response from Support and nothing to my followup questions and descriptions. I guess I am going to have to look elsewhere or for a different plan...

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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Irishgator View Post
    I have not had much luck with GrooveIP. Poor voice quality, volume control issues, not being able to answer and place calls at times (all on Wi-Fi). Only one response from Support and nothing to my followup questions and descriptions. I guess I am going to have to look elsewhere or for a different plan...

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    Sorry for the slow responses to email. We've had some issues the last day that should be ironed out. I did respond this morning, I believe, to your email. If not please resend it. Unfortunately on the Nexus 4 most of the settings aren't required. The Nexus 4 does have WiFi optimization turned on by default and does disconnect WiFi by default. If you're using the app over WiFi I recommend turning off the WiFi optimization from the android settings and setting the android advanced WiFi settings to keep WiFi connected. Some of the issues you were having did seem network related, so I'd suggest trying over a different network/router first to see if that helps. I'd also recommend trying a clean install. Uninstall the app, restart the device, then download and install the app. Sometimes things don't download or install properly and cause issues.
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    Also, just to join in the conversation. We have a Nexus 4 on the t-mobile pre-paid plan. I know it doesn't mean much coming from the developer of the app but we're getting good voice quality over WiFi and t-mobile's data network in our area. But it seems like t-mobile has good service near us.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Smith1 View Post
    Got a microsim activation kit from the following

    Sim Card Activation Kit For Prepaid Phone or Unlocked iPhone | T-Mobil

    The activation instructions provide a website, hard to screw up. Card was 99 cents with free shipping, they even gave me a $3.34 credit towards first month.

    I'm thrilled with the package, I get good service, loving my Nexus 4 (first smartphone, glad I waited)
    Did you have a plan with T-mobile before getting the micro sim activation kit? If not did you get a number form T-mobile or port one over to T-mobile?
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    Thanks for the follow up. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Will see if it works better... I hope so. I love the theory....not much luck with the actual implementation...yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidintorrance View Post
    I will be cutting the Verizon cord come Dec 3rd, and porting my long beloved number to Google Voice; I've been using Groove IP & Google Voice for the past week with my Nexus 4 and before that on the GNex. Calls from Groove are spotty, download speeds are always faster than upload, so you will always hear callers better than they can hear you. Calls on HSPA will work ok to poor on most places; I do find myself shouting and repeating a lot, so for those instances, using the 100 minutes will come in handy

    I do get decent WiFi at home and work; home works better with calls; in & out; but for some reason I only ping less than 1megs up at work, so calls are ok, but really poor for the most part. So, I bought in-hear microphone & earphones and am taking & making calls on gmail. When I get into work, I exit my Groove App, and calls into my Google Voice gets forwarded to Gmail... pretty sweet...
    any updates on how this has been? how's the quality of the calls for you or the people you call? what's the T-Mobile connection been like?
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoman667 View Post
    My main thing is that I want to get the unlimited data plan and use VOIP for phone calls. I will try it for a month I guess. If it works on most of the roads I use in town it wil cover 95% of my usage needs.
    have you been using VoIP on the T-Mobile plan? how has it been?
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    have you been using VoIP on the T-Mobile plan? how has it been?
    I haven't activated the sim card yet. Been crazy busy with the holidays coming up. I need to do it already and start playing with it. I was under the impression that plan was unlimited but they actually throttle it after 5Gb usage right?
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    Ive been using GrooveIP for a couple of days and I find it more than adequate. I was on a 20 minute call (via GrooveIP) with Verizon last night, cancelling all my lines/plans and it worked like a charm. It's not quite as good as a solid cell connection, but probably as good as when your floating between 1 and 2 bars...sometimes a small amount of static or a slight lag in voice transmission, but overall, very good. I've only used it while on wifi and have read that it can be more finicky over your phones data connection. It seems to be all about your ping rate, with under 200 being needed, and under 100 being preferred. You need to play with the settings (speaker, mic and echo) while talking to someone to get it tuned in. The first time I used it with all the default settings, it sounded like an old fashioned long distance call (pretty bad). The truth is, in my humble opinion, cell phone conversations are mostly sub par at best. I've always noticed a slight lag in conversations, so this is really no different. Bottom line for me is that it works and it's a great way to put a serious dent in your cell phone bill.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoman667 View Post
    I haven't activated the sim card yet. Been crazy busy with the holidays coming up. I need to do it already and start playing with it. I was under the impression that plan was unlimited but they actually throttle it after 5Gb usage right?
    Yes. It's not a cap of 5GB, but after 5GB, it's 2g speeds. Shouldn't be an issue as 2000 minutes of talking (on data only, not wifi) would be about 2.3GB with GrooveIP. That leaves you about 2.7GB of data for everything else. And if even just 20% of your talking is over wifi, you'd have about 3.2GB left for everything else.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    Quote Originally Posted by greydarrah View Post
    It seems to be all about your ping rate, with under 200 being needed, and under 100 being preferred.
    That could be a problem. In the tests I've seen online, people found the HSPA+ radio in the Nexus 4 took on average over 1000ms to ping in Speedtest. They theorized it was due to the radio being shut down and needing to start up, so maybe it's only at the beginning and then is fine, but it could be an issue. If you have the $30 plan, could you test some calls with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    That could be a problem. In the tests I've seen online, people found the HSPA+ radio in the Nexus 4 took on average over 1000ms to ping in Speedtest. They theorized it was due to the radio being shut down and needing to start up, so maybe it's only at the beginning and then is fine, but it could be an issue. If you have the $30 plan, could you test some calls with that?
    The ping rates you're seeing seem way off. I tested it today and found it to work great. My ping rates (using sppedtest.net) in repeated testing testing over the past two days run around 100 (usually ranging from 80 something to 110). That's with a 3 to 4 bar HASP+ connection, which I have just about everywhere I am. My data speeds are around 10 to 14 mgb down and 1 to 3 mgb up, and I'm on the T Mobile $30 prepaid plan. As a side note, my wife's N4 is hooked up to Straight Talk AT&T, and her speedtest numbers are not nearly that good. GrooveIP worked great over the network on all calls. Personally, I've found that sometimes I get feedback on a call and if I adjust the mic + or - a value of 2 or 3, while on the call, it goes away. I don't have to do that on every call, just sometimes. I'm no expert here, but I would guess that it has to do with your data connection, the tower you happen to connected to, the tower you might switch to in the middle of a call, or if you you're on wifi, whether or not your kid might have started streaming videos while your on a call. That's not to imply that I'm constantly making adjustments during a call, as most go as smooth as a regular call. It's just nice to know that you can tweak it if you need to.
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    Default Re: Q: Tmobile Monthly 4G $30 and Groove IP

    I've been using groove ip for the past week, and while it works great over wifi, the same can not be said over tmobile (lots of cutting out), even though I get great coverage and speeds. I really wanted this to work because my wife does talk on her phone. I can live with the $30 tmobile plan and 100 minutes, but I'm going to be getting her the straight talk unlimited everything for $45.

    I even tried sipdroid as that has more codecs to choose from, but it still wasn't good enough over the cell network.
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