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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    My Nexus4 scored 59.2 fps using NenaMark2 which pretty much pegs out the meter. So I would say that the Adreno 320 GPU will serve you well for years to come with respect to Android gaming. I'm noticing zero lag/stutter when playing some of the more graphic intensive games. I have no experience with the Note2 but I'd fare to say that either phone would be a good choice and this point.
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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    Yeah my gs3 scored around 58.8 ish so that isn't bad either, the thing I'm worried about is in glbenchmark the galaxy s3's Mali gets really bad score on triangle texture why is this? Is this bad?

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    Wow my Note 1 only gets 30 FPS in nenamark2. The adreno 320 smokes it!
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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    The S4 Pro is just plain faster than anything else. I don't care what benchmarks say. You're talking about a quad core chip that's an entire generation ahead of what's in the Exynos Quad. If one phone performs better on a benchmark, then clearly that software has had some work done to increase its performance on those.

    If you're really into gaming on Android then you want a tegra chip anyway. Software optimization beats godzilla hardware every time.

    A real comparison would be the S4 Pro and Exynos 52xx in the Nexus 10.

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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    Actually the best gpu is what's in the iPad 4, it's got the next generation gpu after the iPad 3. The iPad 4 has the new power vr 544 which is also quad core, has better memory within the gpu, higher clock speed and if I'm right it has a newer architecture than the iPad 3 and adreno 320

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    Quote Originally Posted by saadi703 View Post
    Exynos is faster than S4 Pro however Andreno 320 is faster than Mali MP4.

    Below the are Antutu 3.0 benchmark comparison shots of Note 2 with LG Nexus 4 and LG Optimus G and they clearly shows that Note 2 is good in every department except GPU where andreno 320 shines but this does not essentially translate into better gaming as I find many games still run better on Note 2 than on Nexus 4. For example, Need for Speed Most Wanted runs much smoother on Note 2 than on Nexus 4.

    No Nexus 4 does not out perform note 2 on geekbench 2.

    Sunsider benchmark show note 2 superiority as well where lower is better and note score 1027 and Nexus 4 score 1800+

    Quadrant is a benchmark which I usually don't care about and it's results are miss leading at times but even here Note 2 score close to 7000 and Nexus only manages 4700 to 4800 range.

    I do not have screenshot of vellamo but here again Note 2 is better than Nexus 4.

    I have note 2 and I have already ordered Nexus 4 only because of superior GPU but after finding all this I am thinking about selling my Nexus 4 unopened as soon as I receive it. I know people would hate me for saying this but if gaming is most important to you then you are better of with iOS than android. Android gaming is a mixed bag and would always remain the mixed bag because of the nature of the platform.
    Benchmarks never tell the whole story. That said, I thought everyone realized the N4 has such low scores due to benchmarks not being optimized for Android 4.2. Compare the Note 2 to the Optimus G (which puts up 7000+ on Quadrant if you care about such things).

    Nexus 4 CPU & GPU substantially outperform the hardware from the Note II, not even worth discussing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndroidS3 View Post
    Actually the best gpu is what's in the iPad 4, it's got the next generation gpu after the iPad 3. The iPad 4 has the new power vr 544 which is also quad core, has better memory within the gpu, higher clock speed and if I'm right it has a newer architecture than the iPad 3 and adreno 320

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    Going cross platform? Not a fair comparison. There are other PowerVR chips not being used at all that are faster.

    You can't compare architectures across different GPU's since no company is open enough about it to really compare.

    There are a lot of things that go into how well a chips performs, especially in games and benchmarks. The tight control between hardware/software is why apple has traditionally been the better gaming platform. This is also why tegrazone has better looking games than non tegrazone games.

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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    Is there no access to the real specs of each GPU discussed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Is there no access to the real specs of each GPU discussed?
    Manufacturer supplied performance numbers. But it's more the fact that you can't get any details about the architecture itself.

    Raw performance numbers provided by the manufacturer isn't a good indication of performance, though, since going strictly based on those means you'd only ever want a Mali or Adreno. :-P

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    Default Re: Adreno 320 vs Mali MP4? S4 Pro Vs Exynos

    Seems kind of strange since I can find every little detail on my 580 classified if I want to. Why doesn't it work the same as it does for desktop GPU's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Seems kind of strange since I can find every little detail on my 580 classified if I want to. Why doesn't it work the same as it does for desktop GPU's?
    Unfortunately I don't have the answer to your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    Unfortunately I don't have the answer to your question.

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    They should start doing that so its not under speculation which device is best. Like its a fact my 580 is faster than a 6970.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    They should start doing that so its not under speculation which device is best. Like its a fact my 580 is faster than a 6970.
    Faster...but generates WAY more heat. What's best for you might not be best for me. :-)

    But I do agree that they should give more information about their stuff. It's not like it can just because copied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    Faster...but generates WAY more heat. What's best for you might not be best for me. :-)

    But I do agree that they should give more information about their stuff. It's not like it can just because copied.

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    More heat? Care to see my temps? I bet they beat yours. And on topic I don't see why they wouldn't. Like you said even with specs released its not like they can make something better or equal or nvidia and amd would be doing it to each other. I hate speculation on which chip is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    More heat? Care to see my temps? I bet they beat yours. And on topic I don't see why they wouldn't. Like you said even with specs released its not like they can make something better or equal or nvidia and amd would be doing it to each other. I hate speculation on which chip is better.
    I'm just going by what I've read. I actually have a laptop with a GTX570m and I can't complain at all.

    I'm still a big proponent of software matters more than hardware. That's why I still think nvidia is the way to go if you're a "huge" gamer on a phone. The tegrazone stuff really does look fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    I'm just going by what I've read. I actually have a laptop with a GTX570m and I can't complain at all.

    I'm still a big proponent of software matters more than hardware. That's why I still think nvidia is the way to go if you're a "huge" gamer on a phone. The tegrazone stuff really does look fantastic.
    For the tegrazone stuff I can just use chainfire 3d. Same thing after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    For the tegrazone stuff I can just use chainfire 3d. Same thing after that.
    It's NOT the same. I've done the side by side.

    That's like saying you'll do physx through software on an AMD gpu and performance will be the same. :-P

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    Can you back that up with links? I haven't seen a tegra gpu in person but it doesn't look different in the screen shots/videos I've seen. The THD tegra sonic games look identical to the videos unless I'm blind as well. That is the only game I've tried out recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Can you back that up with links? I haven't seen a tegra gpu in person but it doesn't look different in the screen shots/videos I've seen. The THD tegra sonic games look identical to the videos unless I'm blind as well. That is the only game I've tried out recently.
    I can not. I did the side-by-sides myself a long time ago, back when Tegra 2 was around. But it makes sense that it wouldn't be the same, since what you're doing is essentially adding an emulator layer into the mix.

    I know a good one to try is Riptide GP. I played it on my AT&T One X (not with Chainfire), and then the Nexus 7. Night and day. I haven't messed with Chainfire in at least a year, and while it stands to reason that it has improved, nothing can be as good as native support for the code.


    Of course it also makes sense that with these brand new chipsets that they actually have enough overhead to make up the difference, but I can't confirm or deny that at all, since I don't own a device with an S4 Pro.
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    So how can I tell if I am not getting the extra effects from no Tegra GPU? I am going to test it out now with Chainfire. From my assumption I thought it was just a marketing ploy to make people buy Nvidia mobile GPU vs any others. I dont see why its different on other GPU's. Doesn't it just detect your GPU (which chainfire makes it so it detects a tegra) and enables extra features? I know that samurai game looked exactly like the tegra version. All the tegra only games worked with chainfire too.

    EDIT: Nevermind I guess chainfire doesn't work with ICS/JB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    So how can I tell if I am not getting the extra effects from no Tegra GPU? I am going to test it out now with Chainfire. From my assumption I thought it was just a marketing ploy to make people buy Nvidia mobile GPU vs any others. I dont see why its different on other GPU's. Doesn't it just detect your GPU (which chainfire makes it so it detects a tegra) and enables extra features? I know that samurai game looked exactly like the tegra version. All the tegra only games worked with chainfire too.

    EDIT: Nevermind I guess chainfire doesn't work with ICS/JB.
    Well I guess then that makes the discussion a moot point LOL. Yes there are extra features that are enabled by having the Tegra GPU, but some of those are dependent on the hardware being present, which isn't the case with every GPU. There are certain things that HAVE to be supported for Android, but anything extra on top of that is up to the manufacturer, and each one can choose different things to support. I wish I had an example, but I can't think of any specifically right now.

    And OF COURSE Tegrazone is a marketing thing. The idea is to get more people to buy nVidia stuff that want to game, because generally speaking the gaming experience is better on a Tegra. You can play all the regular Play Store stuff with no problems, plus you get access to specially made Tegra specific stuff that is hands down better looking than the non-Tegra (if they even make a non-Tegra version) of the same game.

    More generically, Apple has always been the "king" of mobile gaming because of their strict hardware control. It's much easier to make a game that takes full advantage of the hardware when you only have ~3 hardware targets to code for. Android has hundreds of different hardware targets, so most dev's target the lowest possible target to reach the highest possible market. nVidia just gave those that care a specific hardware target and said "take full advantage" and those that are sure are making some great looking games. Have you seen Horn or Shadowgun? I can't believe how good they look. RIptide GP is a good showcase for the physics stuff.

    That being said, unless you're a REALLY heavy gamer I don't think having a Tegra should be the primary feature anyone looks for. I think if you're looking at a couple of devices and are up in the air, then maybe it's the swing vote. I got a Nexus 7 because it's a great tablet, and it also happens to have a Tegra 3 in it. If it didn't, I probably still would've gotten it because it's a great tablet for the money. Right now I have an AT&T One X. I like it. But I'm not going to go out and try to get the One X+ just because it has Tegra. It's not worth it to me. I'm also not going to skip the Nexus 4 because it doesn't have a Tegra. Does that make sense?



    ^^^^All that goes out the window when the A15 based Tegra comes out. Then I'll be doing my best to hunt something down that has it inside.
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    Is Horn a Tegra only game or can it run on other GPU's? I want to try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Is Horn a Tegra only game or can it run on other GPU's? I want to try it out.
    I can see it in the Play Store on my One X...so I don't think it's exclusive, just optimized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    I can see it in the Play Store on my One X...so I don't think it's exclusive, just optimized.

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    Doesn't the One X have the tegra GPU though? I'd assume you can see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Doesn't the One X have the tegra GPU though? I'd assume you can see it.
    The AT&T One X which he has, has the S4/adreno 225. The International has a tegra GPU. The AT&T One X+ has a tegra. Like Kevin says, Riptide GP is a great game to show off the difference of gaming on a tegra device and devices with another GPU. Looks exponentially better on my Nexus 7 than it does on my Note 2, however, also like Kevin said I wouldn't buy a device just because it had a tegra GPU. It definitely helps that I have a Nexus 7 which I do most of my gaming on, but on a phone sized screen I don't think the difference is drastic enough to be a deal breaker either way. I went with the Note 2 simply because I have more screen real estate and ultimately that will make the phone a better gaming device for ME than a little better graphics performance. I've yet to encounter anything my Note 2 couldn't handle with ease. I'm sure the same can be said for the Nexus 4/Adreno 320.
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