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    Quote Originally Posted by trivor View Post
    Listen to Mickey (the Cell Phone Junkie and frequent guest on A.C.). Find the carrier that provides coverage for 90% of your time. For those of you able to go with T-Mo there is no doubt that it will be cheaper BUT there are MANY of us outside of big cities (T-Mo only covers about 220 million Pops (as Mickey calls them) of the total US population). Verizon has 450 markets covering almost 300 million pops with the stated goal of covering their current 3G areas by the end of 2013. Although not traveling as much lately (I used to be on the road 150 - 180 days a year) Verizon does have a better network - if someone else is better and cheaper, good for you, otherwise you need to check out the other carriers (whether it be T-Mo, Straight Talk (ATT or T-Mo), Sprint, or even one of the regional carriers. I would have to KNOW that another carrier provides better coverage everywhere I travel (mostly US, mostly urban) before I could justify switching from Verizon because I can't stand surprises and I need to be able to be reached and call home when I'm on the road. While there may be a FEW places where another carrier is better than Verizon, there aren't many and while I would love to have an alternative to Verizon, right now there isn't one. By the way, one place where Verizon shines is at high density events like sports stadiums and CES.
    The trade off between what I am experiencing now with tmobile vs the bloat ware / slow updates/ price gouging/ Isis forcing etc etc is seeming like it will pay off in the long run. At least I'm hoping it will. In a couple days I will be putting my Verizon account on hold for 90 days. Fingers crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N4Newbie View Post
    I have read that CDMA (Verizion, Sprint) has better building penetration than does GSM (AT&T, T-Mobile).

    I don't know if this is proven fact, but it does generally seem to be the case for me, having come off many years of Sprint and on to T-Mobile.
    Technologically, it shouldn't. Both gsm and CDMA use code division when on 3G. Which particular frequency band should matter more though I imagine if one system uses a more conservative coding rate (FEC) mapping it could appear to have better building penitration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMrMark View Post
    I did just the opposite and moved to Verizon from T-Mobile. I was on T-Mobile since '02 and like you have traveled all over the place using their service. What I liked about T-Mobile was the ability to move my SIM card from phone to phone. Now with Verizon and LTE I can now to the same thing. I prefer Verizon's service to T-Mobile's. T-Mobile is pretty spotty in Vegas with data. I would get roughly what your getting on data speeds with T-Mobile and with Verizon's LTE I get 15mbps, to 30mbps with one hero 46mbps! Verizon runs me $10 more per month than T-Mobile.
    Curious what plan you're on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMrMark View Post
    I had two lines on TMO which ended up at $135 including taxes and the Verizon plan with the same two lines end up at $145 including taxes. Both plans gave me a small company discount.
    Quote Originally Posted by hodan View Post
    Curious what plan you're on...
    Shoulda read a lil farther.
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    This phone is really good, but I don't know that I'd consider leaving VZW, or AT&T's good coverage for TMO's spotty coverage. Snapdragon S4 Pro with vanilla Android is nice, but if you can't get service it's sort of useless. Almost like having a highly specced PMP at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMrMark View Post
    I did just the opposite and moved to Verizon from T-Mobile. I was on T-Mobile since '02 and like you have traveled all over the place using their service. What I liked about T-Mobile was the ability to move my SIM card from phone to phone. Now with Verizon and LTE I can now to the same thing. I prefer Verizon's service to T-Mobile's. T-Mobile is pretty spotty in Vegas with data. I would get roughly what your getting on data speeds with T-Mobile and with Verizon's LTE I get 15mbps, to 30mbps with one hero 46mbps! Verizon runs me $10 more per month than T-Mobile.
    Deal breaker for me was no option for unlimited data.
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    I hate people that comment before reading the comments...Lol, I should have kept reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brkaras View Post
    Personal preference. In just giving my own experience...cousin is regional manager for Verizon retail so we have the same debate constantly. Verizon definitely has more LTE coverage but AT&T is catching up fast...AT&T has the largest HSPA+ coverage vs. Verizon 3G coverage. It's the same old Miller Lite vs Budweiser debate...great taste vs Less Filling

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    Verizon is good if you need coverage in far-flung places or have multiple lines/people on your plan. It's pricey (as are almost all the big carriers) for individuals on the all-you-can-eat plans (data caps notwithstanding). I moved from Sprint to T-Mo (after 13 years on Sprint) because my wife switched to Verizon and I did not want to get trapped in Verizon's cycle of delayed updates. I had suffered through that enough with Sprint, and I wanted a phone that would get guaranteed and prompt updates. Keeping us on both carriers was ridiculously expensive, so I also switched to save money and ditch contracts. I accept that my coverage is not as good as it was under Sprint (and definitely not as good as my wife's on Verizon), but I can live with that for the above reasons.
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    I went from T-Mobile after several years to Verizon for the past two and now enjoy coverage everywhere. Tmo is fine if it works for you in the city but I go off the main highways of life and Verizon rules the air out in the boonies. No better coverage.
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    Can you elaborate on the issue regarding no google voice on TMobile? I have ordered the N4 and am planning on going with TMobile but google voice is my main phone number/system. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnemike View Post
    Deal breaker for me was no option for unlimited data.
    Ya I spend most of my time either at home or in the office, both places have WiFi. Heck even when I travel I have WiFi at the hotel. I use my phone for productivity (email, calendar, documents etc) which use very little data. I have never exceeded 2GB in a month. My current plan shares 4GB and my wife uses maybe 500mb a month. For those who stream music or watch videos I can see why unlimited data would be important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trivor View Post
    (T-Mo only covers about 220 million Pops (as Mickey calls them) of the total US population).
    Not true. 220 million is the number of people covered by T-Mobile's 4G coverage (hspa+), with total coverage, I.e. 3g, 2g and voice coverage, being larger.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyChicago View Post
    Can you elaborate on the issue regarding no google voice on TMobile? I have ordered the N4 and am planning on going with TMobile but google voice is my main phone number/system. Thanks!
    There is no issue. I'm using Google voice with my nexus 4 on T-Mobile now. Just make sure to have them turn off your T-Mobile voicemail so the ignored calls don't go to T-Mobile's voicemail.

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    Another jumper here from VZW to TMobile with my Nexus4. My 30day pre-paid plan is just about up on TMobile and I've been very pleased.
    I'm located just north of Atlanta,GA and have definitely noticed some more impressive data speeds with SpeedTester lately because of the upgraded TMo network in my area.

    Here's some of my "highlights":
    - I think saving about $88/month for my wife and my 2 lines on VZW is the biggest "justifier" for me personally. I was on VZW for about 7+ years with unlimited data, but paying around $147/month isn't worth the coverage and grandfathered data for me. If we're only averaging 1.5-2GB/month each, unlimited data on VZW doesn't do squat for me that TMo's 5GB doesn't suffice.

    - On the Mon 11/19 I received my N4, the next day we left from GA to MD driving trip for Thanksgiving holiday. We drove all the way on I-85 and then I-95 from Richmond to DC. I constantly checked my call/data coverage every hour or so/stops and only 1 rest stop in VA did I have no signal. But I still had my VZW Bionic at the time and also had 0 signal, so I call it even. Like the other poster said, you have to think about the 90% of the day/year your at. Sure, I might not have signal in BF Kansas, but doesn't matter if I'm never going there?

    - At work, I even great signal inside my building while most of my buddies AT&T do not and they have to go outside to make calls.. LMAO

    - Another thing that I absolutely HATED with VZW with the 3G/4G handoff. UGGG.. I hated this so friggin much. I'd be driving, out at dinner, at home playing a game, etc. and poof, there goes my data connection to nothing. With the TMo, I've had only 1 time while at my home where signal went blank for about 2secs. With VZW, I'd be out anywhere from 20-30secs to literally 3mins.. Ridiculous

    - With Speedtest, I'm usually in the 13-17kbps range and love it. And this isn't on Wifi, regular 'ol signal from TMo..

    All in all, I am very pleased I made the switch for 90% of the day/year I'm at home/work/around Atlanta and will have none of the issues I had with VZW. Win-win for me
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    Glad to hear T-Mobile is working for folks. I got a SIM from them but haven't been able to order a N4!!! Ha. So I picked up a S3 and a Galaxy Nexus on Craig's List instead. Both rooted. Having fun and trying to decide which to use as my daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyChicago View Post
    Can you elaborate on the issue regarding no google voice on TMobile? I have ordered the N4 and am planning on going with TMobile but google voice is my main phone number/system. Thanks!
    As long as you don't plan on ever giving your t-mo number to anyone and everyone dials the GV number, you are fine. Mixed use cases struggle because t-mo does not allow conditional call forwarding on its' prepaid plans. It makes managing voice mail difficult when people use both numbers.
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    Both of those beers taste like sh*t.
    I'm a New Glarus drinker myself...but that's strictly a Wisconsin beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by trivor View Post
    Listen to Mickey (the Cell Phone Junkie and frequent guest on A.C.). Find the carrier that provides coverage for 90% of your time. For those of you able to go with T-Mo there is no doubt that it will be cheaper BUT there are MANY of us outside of big cities (T-Mo only covers about 220 million Pops (as Mickey calls them) of the total US population). Verizon has 450 markets covering almost 300 million pops with the stated goal of covering their current 3G areas by the end of 2013. Although not traveling as much lately (I used to be on the road 150 - 180 days a year) Verizon does have a better network - if someone else is better and cheaper, good for you, otherwise you need to check out the other carriers (whether it be T-Mo, Straight Talk (ATT or T-Mo), Sprint, or even one of the regional carriers. I would have to KNOW that another carrier provides better coverage everywhere I travel (mostly US, mostly urban) before I could justify switching from Verizon because I can't stand surprises and I need to be able to be reached and call home when I'm on the road. While there may be a FEW places where another carrier is better than Verizon, there aren't many and while I would love to have an alternative to Verizon, right now there isn't one. By the way, one place where Verizon shines is at high density events like sports stadiums and CES.
    THIS.

    Numerous times my friends on AT&T can't make a call or send a test without issue at extremely populous events. Tailgating at Kinnick for a Hawkeye game? Good luck reaching an AT&T customer; entirely hit or miss. I love Verizon... but I also love the freedom of jumping around carriers with a GSM device. But for now nothing rivals Verizon's network, whether it's LTE speeds or coverage. Sure, on occasion in a specific area, another network may be quicker or have better coverage, but far more often than not Verizon comes out on top.

    I don't really understand all the hate on Verizon. The built a premium product and they charge a premium price for it. Props. I jump on prepaid plans only because I can't afford Verizon, but I'll always miss a network like that.
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    I don't really understand all the hate on Verizon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayjohn View Post
    THIS.

    I don't really understand all the hate on Verizon. The built a premium product and they charge a premium price for it. Props. I jump on prepaid plans only because I can't afford Verizon, but I'll always miss a network like that.
    Definitely not hating on Verizon. In fact, I loved Verizon and was an advocate for them. I think it was the difficulty of moving away from Verizon that a lot of people had when the Nexus 4 came out. The move away was a progression from them getting rid of the 1 year contract, tothe final straw, when I gave my upgrade to my brother to get him an S3 for Christmas and they charged me a $35 "upgrade fee" which they no longer waived at any cost (over a decade of loyalty). I got behind Google's efforts to change the mobile plan structure whole heartedly after that.
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    Yochino, I feel the same. I think sometimes you have to vote with your wallet to make a change. Been with vzw for 8 years, and the quality is excellent, but not 350% more excellent for the price. (I've been forking over $107/month, and don't even use more than 60-70 minutes a month.)
    I'm getting behind google and saving $77/month by switching to the tmo $30 plan.
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    I think all providers can be great in some places and horrible in other places. I've had T-Mobile in North Carolina, Charlotte region. In my specific town T-Mobile is good, next town 20 miles over it's just EDGE. Supposedly T-Mobile is supposed to complete LTE update sometime 2013. I'm curious how or if reception changes. It was about 1 year ago I went from a Blackberry 3G phone to a 4G phone and the reception improved just by that personal transition. There is a store nearby where there was virtually no service inside of any sort on the 3G BB, but with the 4G BB, 90 percent of the store has 4G to EDGE coverage. Is LTE supposed to have better inside building capabilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawil1013 View Post
    I think all providers can be great in some places and horrible in other places. I've had T-Mobile in North Carolina, Charlotte region. In my specific town T-Mobile is good, next town 20 miles over it's just EDGE. Supposedly T-Mobile is supposed to complete LTE update sometime 2013. I'm curious how or if reception changes. It was about 1 year ago I went from a Blackberry 3G phone to a 4G phone and the reception improved just by that personal transition. There is a store nearby where there was virtually no service inside of any sort on the 3G BB, but with the 4G BB, 90 percent of the store has 4G to EDGE coverage. Is LTE supposed to have better inside building capabilities?
    Pro ably not since supposedly T-mobile LTE is going to be deployed on the same frequency as its current 3g network (1700 mhz)

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