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  1. mm625's Avatar
    As I've been waiting for my Nexus 4 order to come (on the verge of assuming it will never come, but anyways), I've been using a Galaxy Note 2 as my main phone. I bought the Nexus 4 thinking it would be better to have stock Android and get updates immediately from Google rather than wait for a carrier to decide when to release it, and I could sell the Note 2 to recoup the cost and then some. However, I've been wondering lately, what is the major benefit of stock Android compared to, say, using a launcher a la Nova, whose Prime version gives you cool gestures, unread notifications, more customization over the number of home screens, etc besides the rapid updates? The physique of stock Android can basically be replicated to a T using Nova if that's what you like. At this point, I'm just not sure which phone I would keep, as the Note 2 has turned out to be quite a phone!
    12-18-2012 12:12 AM
  2. gone down south's Avatar
    Immediate updates. We've already had an update to 4.2, while most carrier phones are lucky to be on 4.0 or 4.1.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    12-18-2012 12:16 AM
  3. Hubertsng's Avatar
    Immediate updates but the thing that I do like about stock android is how it looks. The on screen buttons also look nice and so does the OS as a whole. The samsung S3, I don't like it as much though it does look nice. THe UI of the stock android is better imo but that's just a personal preference.
    12-18-2012 12:27 AM
  4. Stein357's Avatar
    Consistent design language. Not a cluster of Samsung/Google's vision, or HTC's cartoonish vision.
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    12-18-2012 12:37 AM
  5. ragnarokx's Avatar
    The first to have Google's coolest new stuff. When new apps are released like Google Talk video chat, Google Chrome, Google Now, etc., they are only compatible with the newest version of Android. And guess who always has the newest version of Android?

    Sent from my Nexus 4
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    12-18-2012 12:46 AM
  6. davey11's Avatar
    Nexus phones are the easiest to hack and modify both for developers and end users.

    Sent from my mako ()
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    12-18-2012 04:49 AM
  7. XChrisX's Avatar
    Faster updates, though I do applaud Samsung for rolling out surprisingly fast updates. I came from an S3 to the Nexus 4 essentially because my only experience with Android was the S3, and I wanted to try out pure Google. However you have a Note II which is no slouch, so I wouldn't expect any crazy performance upgrades in the Nexus 4.
    12-18-2012 06:26 AM
  8. Tervijawn's Avatar
    I found that settings were less 'hidden' within a Nexus device. I'm currently on the Nexus S, waiting for the Nexus 4 to get to my door today, and I've played with both the 7 and the 10. In comparison to TouchWiz on my Tab 2, it just seemed easier to navigate on a Nexus. I also felt like it was easier to customize each device in terms of shortcuts, widgets, appearance and especially ROMs. I've also toyed with a few HTC and other Samsung models and while they're still more 'roomy' compared to iOS, the pure Android experience just blows everything out of the water.

    I don't know if its the lack of proprietary software/apps that manufacturers include or something else, but Nexus devices also feel smoother especially with Project Butter in Jelly Bean.
    12-18-2012 06:46 AM
  9. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Immediate updates ...
    Of course, the problem with immediate updates is that you run the risk of becoming a de facto beta tester. We get the new OS first, identify and report the bugs and app compatibility issues. By the time others get the update (if ever), the bugs and kinks have been worked out.
    12-18-2012 07:23 AM
  10. bespinct's Avatar
    Consistent design language. Not a cluster of Samsung/Google's vision, or HTC's cartoonish vision.
    It's funny how impressions go. I have always thought Samsung a bit more caertoony because of the over saturated colors and would never put Google/Samsung together.

    I think the more that Google separates some of the services from the framework the less difference it makes whether you have a NonBlur, Sense, Stock or Touchwiz device. It becomes personal preference largely, I think, based on aesthetics.

    I also find that I care less and less about updates. Again, probably related to the separation of services from the framework. About the only thing from 4.2 that I don't have in 4.1 is Photosphere. I don't take any pictures so I don't even think about.

    I'm certainly not knocking the N4, I have just been surprised about how little I miss my Galaxy Nexus since getting the DNA. I have kept the Nexus thinking I might move back and forth between the devices, but nearly a month later my GNex is sitting untouched on my office desk.

    Steve

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    mellyf likes this.
    12-18-2012 07:45 AM
  11. Hubertsng's Avatar
    Of course, the problem with immediate updates is that you run the risk of becoming a de facto beta tester. We get the new OS first, identify and report the bugs and app compatibility issues. By the time others get the update (if ever), the bugs and kinks have been worked out.
    Well you don't have to update, you can if you want.
    12-18-2012 02:33 PM
  12. PWC Realtor's Avatar
    I want a custom experience not what an OEM thinks I want. There's usually an app or ROM for the Nexus to do what I want.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    12-18-2012 03:47 PM
  13. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Stick with the note and root it. Way more features available

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    12-18-2012 03:58 PM
  14. Citizen Coyote's Avatar
    However, I've been wondering lately, what is the major benefit of stock Android compared to, say, using a launcher a la Nova, whose Prime version gives you cool gestures, unread notifications, more customization over the number of home screens, etc besides the rapid updates? The physique of stock Android can basically be replicated to a T using Nova if that's what you like. At this point, I'm just not sure which phone I would keep, as the Note 2 has turned out to be quite a phone!
    You can make a phone look like stock Android using Nova Launcher (or others), but replacement launchers are only thin skins and don't go anywhere near the level of customization of manufacturer skins (like TouchWiz, Sense, etc.) As such, a "nova'd" phone may look like stock Android, but it will not behave as such. The Android kernel will be whatever the latest version of Android the manufacturer is using (at this point, 4.1.2 is the best you'll get outside of Nexus Land), and thus the phone may lack features that the Nexus has because the support is not baked in. A phone like the Note 2 is going to have oodles of things that the N4 doesn't of course; Samsung needs those things to differentiate it from other Android phones. However, this results in what I feel is a messy interface full of things you might never use.

    It comes down to personal preference. Do you want a lean, mean, Spartan machine that you make your own? Or do you want something with more fluff and refinement tied to a design language you'll never be able to fully expunge without loading a new ROM?
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    12-18-2012 03:59 PM
  15. FYourProblems's Avatar
    I prefer my software from the source without a middle man tampering with it, just on principal. I have more trust in Google's judgement than Samsung or HTC.
    12-18-2012 05:16 PM
  16. The Hustleman's Avatar
    I prefer my software from the source without a middle man tampering with it, just on principal. I have more trust in Google's judgement than Samsung or HTC.
    I did until Google started to mess up their own product by getting rid of 2 of their advantages over iphone

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    12-18-2012 11:17 PM
  17. Hubertsng's Avatar
    I did until Google started to mess up their own product by getting rid of 2 of their advantages over iphone

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    Not sure which two of the advantages you are talking about that they got rid of but this is why we have android. It is almost completely customizable and you are able to add the function back again. Rooting also helps.
    12-18-2012 11:19 PM
  18. CoolBeit's Avatar
    Not sure which two of the advantages you are talking about that they got rid of but this is why we have android. It is almost completely customizable and you are able to add the function back again. Rooting also helps.
    He is likely talking about expandable storage and removable battery....

    Two things I happen to not care about. But I realize these are big deals for some people.
    12-19-2012 07:13 AM
  19. minnemike's Avatar
    He is likely talking about expandable storage and removable battery....

    Two things I happen to not care about. But I realize these are big deals for some people.
    To me, removable battery would be a great bonus, but I really don't understand how so many people can be so upset with not having more than 16gb of storage when there are so many other methods to get to your data (cloud, etc). If you are really out of data range and absolutely need so much space for media content, you should have an actual media device of some sort with you like a tablet. You are really going way beyond what a smartphone is designed to offer.
    12-19-2012 08:47 AM
  20. The Hustleman's Avatar
    Not sure which two of the advantages you are talking about that they got rid of but this is why we have android. It is almost completely customizable and you are able to add the function back again. Rooting also helps.

    Non user replaceable battery which is something that should be available on all phones (it's impossible to get a whole 24 hours of usage out of a smartphone so why cripple the battery swapping) and what makes the nexus bad is you can't replace your battery and the battery life isn't good. Dumb decision for Google. And before some ***** says "you want good battery life buy a maxx" if I wanted a wack phone with great battery life I would have gotten one.

    Non expendable storage isn't good either because phones are basically forcing you to use cloud services which isn't a viable alternative because the unlimited data plans are gone on the 2 biggest carriers. Good luck using the cloud when you are at your data allowance trying to pull something off the cloud. Overage waiting to happen.

    LG took crippling of the phone even further and disabled OTG support so you can't even use a flash drive to update the storage!

    It's like Google and manufacturers sat down together and thought "what advantages we have over Apple that we can get rid of?"

    sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile
    12-19-2012 08:48 AM
  21. gtg465x's Avatar
    The unlockedness is great too. I can switch between AT&T and T-Mo as I please and use the phone internationally. Plus I get free tethering! And there's no BS hoops to jump through when I want to hack my phone or throw custom ROMs on it.
    12-19-2012 09:42 AM
  22. vNaK's Avatar
    Seems like you may be a casual user. If that's the case either will be fine. Honestly everyone brings up updates being a deciding factor but for me it isn't really that important. I previously have sgs1 with 2.3 and a HTC sensation with ICS. Even when the sensation got updated to ICS I didn't really noticed it upgraded to ICS. There were a couple things different but nothing big that wowed me. Updates seems a little overrated. Even though I down launchers and do stuff to my phone I still consider myself a casual user. Only cool thing I liked about the nexus 4 is the photosphere from 4.2. Otherwise I'm digging my note 2 that I also have.
    12-19-2012 02:14 PM
  23. Hubertsng's Avatar
    He is likely talking about expandable storage and removable battery....

    Two things I happen to not care about. But I realize these are big deals for some people.
    Oh. Yeah the expandable storage sucks but I'm only going to need 14 GB, about 6 for music and I can fill the rest with videos picture and apps
    Removable battery is actually removable but it's more difficult than the GNex
    12-19-2012 02:27 PM
  24. davey11's Avatar
    Removable battery? Yes, if you have an insanely small torx driver and some pry tools. Plus it's glued down. Manufacturers glue things down because they don't want you removing them.

    Sent from my mako ()
    12-19-2012 02:36 PM
  25. Thomas Tongol's Avatar
    Easy to modify get the first updates
    I have a couple of nexus devices in the house and I love them
    I have my nexus s nexus 4 and nexus 7
    04-29-2013 02:35 PM
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