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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    I didn't create this thread to 'bash' Android, nor to 'troll.' I was expressing my feeling about the phone, if you don't like what I write, move on. I'm not here to please anyone - just to give my experience with the Nexus 4.
    Dude it seems if your opinion is not in the majority you get labeled as a troll. I for one did not take your post as bashing you simply stated what you did not like about the phone and the OS. To me folks should not attack you but reach out and ask how they could help with certain dislikes that you may have, that would make the OS experience a little better. Some folks here are good others take it as if you have personally called them out instead of LG And Google. I am fan of both operating systems have had every iPhone and lets see every nexus outside of that first one. Both have good things to offer maybe give it another week download some apps to customize your nexus. I personally am waiting for my note 2 to arrive since google canceled my nexus order without a valid reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by josegb2011 View Post
    I respect your opinion on the nexus 4 and android but all this problems your having can be fixed easily by going to the play store and getting your needs..if i learned one thing from ios users is that a lot of them do not have a good IQ at least when it comes to tech and can only handle iphones simplicity.android is proven to be more advanced so it takes a bit more to learn ..i am not trolling on you, just give it at least a month and try to customize it to your liking.if you still dont like it than you can sadly go back to your simple ios ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    So, I received my Nexus 4 two weeks ago - I am not happy. The phone's pricing is amazing, and for $300 I wasn't expecting much, however, coming from an iPhone, build quality was my biggest concern. I plan on returning my phone tomorrow, as it's day 15. The Android OS is ugly, and confusing.
    I stopped reading here. Android isn't iOS and never will be, get over it.
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    Some people need to have their hands held and be spoon fed by Apple, it's all good. It's what I'd give my grandmother if she knew what a smartphone was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadpoolJunior View Post
    Two weeks with the phone and you couldn't figure out that you don't have to use the apps that come pre-installed? You spout off about the Music and Chrome app being poorly designed as if your stuck with them. There are LOADS of alternatives.

    Also, you talk bad about the build quality but you said you marveled at it when you unboxed it. I also don't get how ANYONE could not like the build quality of this phone. Yeah the trim is plastic but thats irrelevant compared to the OVERALL build of this phone from the rubberized grip and the premium back glass to the beautiful screen. Build quality is one of the things everyone praised about this phone across the board.

    So take away your argument about the apps and the build quality, you're left with your subjective OPINION on the look of Android (if you think Jellybean android is ugly, look at Gingerbread and then look back at it) and your gripe with the camera. The camera isn't the best in the world (which if you read any review before you bought this phone, you would've known that) but its definitely serviceable. In the right settings I've gotten wonderful pictures. Play around with the exposure or try HDR mode. Check out the pictures thread here on AC and you'll see some great photos out of this thing. BUT, if all of that is too hard or complex for you then just get a different phone. Your tech savvy, right? I don't know how you didn't do your homework on this device before you bought it but hey, you tried it and didnt like it so move on.
    The hostility on this forum astounds me. I know I can use apps from the Play store instead of pre-loaded ones, I was commenting on what came with the phone. At first glance I didn't see the gap in the bevel, or feel the cheap plastic buttons. I'd love to see anyone say outright that the Nexus 4 has superior build quality compared to the iPhone 4/4S/5. I read plenty of reviews and knew what I was getting myself into, though I was surprised at how real the flaws pointed out in them were. I didn't study up for weeks over a device that costs $300 - I don't know if you're 12 and had to save your allowance for a year to get it (it wouldn't surprise me, judging by your avatar.) - but in the real world a $300 device doesn't deserve that sort of grueling intense research. Please go elsewhere with your ing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    The hostility on this forum astounds me. I know I can use apps from the Play store instead of pre-loaded ones, I was commenting on what came with the phone. At first glance I didn't see the gap in the bevel, or feel the cheap plastic buttons. I'd love to see anyone say outright that the Nexus 4 has superior build quality compared to the iPhone 4/4S/5. I read plenty of reviews and knew what I was getting myself into, though I was surprised at how real the flaws pointed out in them were. I didn't study up for weeks over a device that costs $300 - I don't know if you're 12 and had to save your allowance for a year to get it (it wouldn't surprise me, judging by your avatar.) - but in the real world a $300 device doesn't deserve that sort of grueling intense research. Please go elsewhere with your ing.
    You may have gotten a bad phone. Much like I got when my iPhone 5 came and it looked like a Chinamen played soccer with it. People had bent iPhones, not even apple is immune to a bad phone getting out. When you rely on slave labor and the lowest bidder to mass produce them, it's bound to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    Dude it seems if your opinion is not in the majority you get labeled as a troll. I for one did not take your post as bashing you simply stated what you did not like about the phone and the OS. To me folks should not attack you but reach out and ask how they could help with certain dislikes that you may have, that would make the OS experience a little better. Some folks here are good others take it as if you have personally called them out instead of LG And Google. I am fan of both operating systems have had every iPhone and lets see every nexus outside of that first one. Both have good things to offer maybe give it another week download some apps to customize your nexus. I personally am waiting for my note 2 to arrive since google canceled my nexus order without a valid reason.


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    Thank you very much for not being rude to me. I am honestly amazed at the hostility on this forum, as I thought it was made up of a more mature, less-touchy adult group. I think I will give it a few more days and see if I can get it to where I like it. OCD is my main problem when it comes to phones, which is, I believe, why I love Apple's phones so much. I hate it when my device seems 'cluttered' - which, as you can see, is sort of what the Android ecosystem is when compared to iOS.
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    ...I mean its not bashing if it's a fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVO28312 View Post
    Seriously!? My mother who just discovered how to navigate the internet is using a nexus 7 and has no problem using the device. Lol and your calling your self "tech savvy" pretty pathetic. I guess its to hard to swipe Lt/rt figure out the middle buttons takes you home and the endless of app alternatives you have. Well I guess when your confined to apples walls you become incompetent to the rest of the world. Look, this might seem harsh to you seeing all these comments but read what your saying. I can bet if anyone went over to iOS sites and said what you said there would be endless of negative comments. So suck it with peoples replies including my own.
    Alright, I'm getting a little pissed off. Grow the up, and stop insulting people over the internet. Did I say I couldn't navigate the phone? No. Did I say it was confusing? Yes. There is an enormous difference between the two.

    "So suck it with peoples replies including my own." -- are you kidding me? Are you a middle-schooler?
    "Well I guess when your confined to apples walls you become incompetent to the rest of the world." -- So, working with and programming on 3 different computer OS' is impotent? I'd love to see your example of being capable.
    "Look, this might seem harsh to you seeing all these comments but read what your saying." -- What I said was my ing opinion. Am I wrong to state how I feel about something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enekomh View Post
    I can't understand how some OS can be confusing when you have everything in its place.
    BTW, saying that you're a web developer doesn't make you tech savvy. I am a web developer myself and I have got work mates that don't even know how to set up a printer.
    I know what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure if I can build a desktop, I know how to how to make my way around technology.
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    Rezorate, Android is not necessarily designed to appeal to everyone straight out of the box. The beauty with Android is the amount of customization that you can do to tailor the device to your own particular needs and preferences. That is the difference between Android and iOS. Apple's philosophy is to design something to appeal to the masses while limiting the amount of customization that can be done. Android provides a platform for everyone to tweak and adjust as you please.

    Before you "give up" on Android, try experimenting with some of the different options that are available with 3rd party apps and launchers. You'll be amazed at just how much you can do with it.

    As for build quality, it looks like you have unfortunately received a device with a manufacturing defect. Personally, I find the build quality far exceeds most of the devices on the market that are selling at TWICE the price. Is it the best there is? No, it's not. Is it excellent value for the money? Yes, I strongly believe it is.
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    This is what happens when you disagree with the hive-mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    Thank you very much for not being rude to me. I am honestly amazed at the hostility on this forum, as I thought it was made up of a more mature, less-touchy adult group. I think I will give it a few more days and see if I can get it to where I like it. OCD is my main problem when it comes to phones, which is, I believe, why I love Apple's phones so much. I hate it when my device seems 'cluttered' - which, as you can see, is sort of what the Android ecosystem is when compared to iOS.
    ok now i have had it. if there is one thing android is not it is cluttered. Every one who owns an iphone has a grid of icons or folders on their homescreen. that is the ugliest thing to look at when first picking up your phone. In current android you have a home screen which you can make extremely minimalistic with folders or very few icons and one clock widget then keep all other apps on a separate screen or in the app drawer.

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    While i do agree withe the fact that the power button creaks, mine does as well. The rest of the build quality of this phone is stunning. Even my iphone friends marveled at how nice it feels in hand and how "this is the first android phone they have seen that they would consider owning"

    chrome has been sluggish on other devices but i can honestly say it does not lag on the nexus 4 since it has the ram and processor speed to support it. I personally use dolphin since you can use flash with it but save that one fact i would definitely be using chrome.

    The camera on the Nexus 4 is great in my opinion. Especially when you consider the HDR mode, landscape, photosphere and radial menus. I have not owned an iphone so they may have better cameras but my phone has been capturing some amazing shots.

    I think you are just better suited for an iphone. It sounds pretty clear that you want something to "just work" out of the box like most iphone users do. That is fine. But android provides a different experience that every one on this forum loves. We love it because it is open and we have control to do what we want to our phones to make them exactly how we want them. We are passionate about these things. So when you come here to trash a phone and os that so many love you should expect people to bash you. Especially if your points are unfounded and just opinions of an apple loyalist with confirmation bias.

    you wouldnt go to a exotic car forum and say cars are small and lame i love trucks would you? you werent seeking for help from us. you wanted to trash android.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    Alright, I'm getting a little pissed off. Grow the up, and stop insulting people over the internet. Did I say I couldn't navigate the phone? No. Did I say it was confusing? Yes. There is an enormous difference between the two.
    I would be interested to hear what you found confusing in the interface. I switched from the Galaxy Nexus to the iPhone 5 purely because of the battery life issues. I personally cannot stand iOS, and find it far less intuitive then Android. The 3 main differences that I see:

    1. Navigation
    iOS: "Back" button, always in the top left corner of the app. Home button: giant circular button on front of the phone.
    Android: Back Button: literal back arrow at bottom of the screen. Home button: Home button at bottom of screen.

    I think some of the confusion comes in when apps are ported to Android from iOS, and carry over the in-app back button. It can be confusing to be able press the actual back button, or the in app one. Otherwise, I think ease of OS navigation is pretty much a wash between the 2.

    2. App settings
    iOS: This drives me crazy. Some apps have specific settings that you can adjust in the app, whereas the phone specific app settings (location permissions, notifications, etc...) are located in the separate, stand-alone general settings app. I hate wanting to adjust a setting for an app in iOS, and having to completely exit it, and then enter another app.
    Android: Almost all specific app settings are contained within the app. Makes much more sense to me, you want to adjust settings for an app, you do so inside of the app.

    3. Homescreen layout
    iOS: You can change your wallpaper, the locations of apps, and place them in folders. Super simple, but also extremely limited.
    Android: This is the main difference that I see between Android and iOS. Widgets! Launchers! Adjustable app icons! Gestures! App drawer! I can see how this would be more confusing then iOS. But, you also get unparalleled flexibility.

    Those are just some of my thoughts. What is it exactly that you find confusing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    Alright, I'm getting a little pissed off. Grow the up, and stop insulting people over the internet. Did I say I couldn't navigate the phone? No. Did I say it was confusing? Yes. There is an enormous difference between the two.

    Lol this guy... You brag about being a programmer yet your having difficulties or excuse me let me correct myself your "confused" on how to swipe and push a button with your finger to look through the play store . So yes I'd say your incompetent.

    "So suck it with peoples replies including my own." -- are you kidding me? Are you a middle-schooler?
    "Well I guess when your confined to apples walls you become incompetent to the rest of the world." -- So, working with and programming on 3 different computer OS' is impotent? I'd love to see your example of being impotent

    Man... You keep making it worse for yourself.

    "Look, this might seem harsh to you seeing all these comments but read what your saying." -- What I said was my ing opinion. Am I wrong to state how I feel about something?
    No your not wrong at all! See as your free and open to say what you want so are we. This will happen 10/10 times so get over it and take it like a man or take it like a isheep
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    ok now i have had it. if there is one thing android is not it is cluttered. Every one who owns an iphone has a grid of icons or folders on their homescreen. that is the ugliest thing to look at when first picking up your phone. In current android you have a home screen which you can make extremely minimalistic with folders or very few icons and one clock widget then keep all other apps on a separate screen or in the app drawer.

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    While i do agree withe the fact that the power button creaks, mine does as well. The rest of the build quality of this phone is stunning. Even my iphone friends marveled at how nice it feels in hand and how "this is the first android phone they have seen that they would consider owning"

    chrome has been sluggish on other devices but i can honestly say it does not lag on the nexus 4 since it has the ram and processor speed to support it. I personally use dolphin since you can use flash with it but save that one fact i would definitely be using chrome.

    The camera on the Nexus 4 is great in my opinion. Especially when you consider the HDR mode, landscape, photosphere and radial menus. I have not owned an iphone so they may have better cameras but my phone has been capturing some amazing shots.

    I think you are just better suited for an iphone. It sounds pretty clear that you want something to "just work" out of the box like most iphone users do. That is fine. But android provides a different experience that every one on this forum loves. We love it because it is open and we have control to do what we want to our phones to make them exactly how we want them. We are passionate about these things. So when you come here to trash a phone and os that so many love you should expect people to bash you. Especially if your points are unfounded and just opinions of an apple loyalist with confirmation bias.

    you wouldnt go to a exotic car forum and say cars are small and lame i love trucks would you? you werent seeking for help from us. you wanted to trash android.
    Unfounded opinions? The power button squeaking is unfounded? The plastic bevel is unfounded? The lag on Chrome is unfounded? The gap in the phone is unfounded? Buddy, I think you need to go back to English class and learn what that word means.
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    Unfounded opinions? The power button squeaking is unfounded? The plastic bevel is unfounded? The lag on Chrome is unfounded? The gap in the phone is unfounded? Buddy, I think you need to go back to English class and learn what that word means.
    Seriously you have no clue..Typical. I know your incompetent but did you ever realize you might have received a defected phone? It happens and unlike apple we notice our issues instead of hiding it or telling you your holding it wrong. You say its slow, laggy, the screen is bad etc send it back get a new one or just stick to the ***** OS cause that's how your making yourself look like in here. Please someone close this thread cause its only going to get worse for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr0me View Post
    ok now i have had it. if there is one thing android is not it is cluttered. Every one who owns an iphone has a grid of icons or folders on their homescreen. that is the ugliest thing to look at when first picking up your phone. In current android you have a home screen which you can make extremely minimalistic with folders or very few icons and one clock widget then keep all other apps on a separate screen or in the app drawer.

    compare

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    While i do agree withe the fact that the power button creaks, mine does as well. The rest of the build quality of this phone is stunning. Even my iphone friends marveled at how nice it feels in hand and how "this is the first android phone they have seen that they would consider owning"

    chrome has been sluggish on other devices but i can honestly say it does not lag on the nexus 4 since it has the ram and processor speed to support it. I personally use dolphin since you can use flash with it but save that one fact i would definitely be using chrome.

    The camera on the Nexus 4 is great in my opinion. Especially when you consider the HDR mode, landscape, photosphere and radial menus. I have not owned an iphone so they may have better cameras but my phone has been capturing some amazing shots.

    I think you are just better suited for an iphone. It sounds pretty clear that you want something to "just work" out of the box like most iphone users do. That is fine. But android provides a different experience that every one on this forum loves. We love it because it is open and we have control to do what we want to our phones to make them exactly how we want them. We are passionate about these things. So when you come here to trash a phone and os that so many love you should expect people to bash you. Especially if your points are unfounded and just opinions of an apple loyalist with confirmation bias.

    you wouldnt go to a exotic car forum and say cars are small and lame i love trucks would you? you werent seeking for help from us. you wanted to trash android.
    You do know on the iPhone you can have the screen set up the same way right to not look like the apple commercial picture you have there see screen shot. I'm just saying.... The guy had some issues lets stay positive instead of going on about folks that use one platform have low IQ and what not geesh. I am a fan of both really all OS. 2 Weeks With the Nexus 4-imageuploadedbytapatalk1355953767.754130.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by EVO28312 View Post
    Seriously you have no clue..Typical. I know your incompetent but did you ever realize you might have received a defected phone? It happens and unlike apple we notice our issues instead of hiding it or telling you your holding it wrong. You say its slow, laggy, the screen is bad etc send it back get a new one or just stick to the ***** OS cause that's how your making yourself look like in here. Please someone close this thread cause its only going to get worse for him
    I take offense to this comment. Are you saying that because someone uses IOS that they are idiots? That comment surely does not represent the majority of android users I have both android and IOS each offers something that I like and I choose to keep both. This is a case of taking things to personal when you shouldn't.


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    In that whole paragraph I never once wrote iOS but if your saying it is than assume what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    Unfounded opinions? The power button squeaking is unfounded? The plastic bevel is unfounded? The lag on Chrome is unfounded? The gap in the phone is unfounded? Buddy, I think you need to go back to English class and learn what that word means.
    Clearly you going ad hominem and attacking my English shows that you are just frustrated and don't have any good arguments.

    I conceded the point on the button squeaking earlier. That is an extremely minor annoyance though.

    Metal is more expensive and nicer than plastic in general but the iphone 5 has tons of problems with the aluminum bezel denting. Do you recommend android implement that? I think whining about the plastic bezel is like complaining about the steering wheel of a Ferrari being pleather and not real leather. You probably wouldn't know or care unless you specially tried to identify it and you are focusing on the wrong part of what makes the machine great.

    Chrome has no lag for me on my Nexus 4. It was known for having problems on devices with less ram like the galaxy nexus. The nexus 4 cleared all of that up in my experience. A lot of reviewers have said the same thing. if you don't like it, install a different browser.

    My phone has no gap, you must have gotten a defective unit.

    but as other have said, switching mobile operating systems means relearning a lot of things and is an investment of time and apps. It took me a long time to fully understand the capabilities of android after switching from BB. I loved my first android (g nex) as soon as i got it but over time learned more and more of how to make it even better and make it my own. you dipped your toe in the water and said the entire ocean sucks. Good riddance
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    You do know on the iPhone you can have the screen set up the same way right to not look like the apple commercial picture you have there see screen shot. I'm just saying.... The guy had some issues lets stay positive instead of going on about folks that use one platform have low IQ and what not geesh. I am a fan of both really all OS. Click image for larger version. 

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    fair point. I knew you could make folders but i have not seen some one set an iphone up like that before. but that is an exception to the rule.

    if you looked at 100 iphones and 100 android phones most of the iphones would have more cluttered home screens. Android phones come stock with clock widgets and home screen folders to give it the minimal feel. iOS by default has a grid of icons. Most users arent going to reinvent the icon template they are given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezorate View Post
    Alright, I'm getting a little pissed off. Grow the up, and stop insulting people over the internet. Did I say I couldn't navigate the phone? No. Did I say it was confusing? Yes. There is an enormous difference between the two.

    "So suck it with peoples replies including my own." -- are you kidding me? Are you a middle-schooler?
    "Well I guess when your confined to apples walls you become incompetent to the rest of the world." -- So, working with and programming on 3 different computer OS' is impotent? I'd love to see your example of being capable.
    "Look, this might seem harsh to you seeing all these comments but read what your saying." -- What I said was my ing opinion. Am I wrong to state how I feel about something?
    Grow up and stop insulting people, yet I didn't insult you in my post but you say i'm 12 based on what exactly? An avatar? And now your calling people middle schoolers because they don't agree with you? I think your the one that needs to grow up pal. I did not insult you at all in my post just offered advice and you got upset. But whatever, it's a phone. If you think Android is confusing, I don't know why you got the phone in the first place. Just sell your N4 on Ebay or Craigslist or something and pick up the iPhone 5. I guarantee you no one here cares what you have in your pocket. We're just pointing out the flaws in the argument you made against the phone. Simple as that buddy.
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    If I can play devil's advocate to both sides here...

    The Android and iPhone ecosystem are vastly different. Apple keeps everything in-house and designs their OS to run on ONLY their flagship device. All development for hardware and software is done by Apple and it is a very neat and tidy closed system. Android, however, at the OS level, is an open-source project, which can be utilized by any hardware manufacturer within the accepted license guidelines. A lot of folks talk about how buggy Android is or about the massive amount of fragmentation there is within the Android ecosystem -- and these people are right -- but the blame here doesn't always lie on Google's development of the OS, but rather the open-source nature of it. After all, it's not Google's fault if a third party hardware manufacturer takes Android and runs it on an inferior devices with poorly written kernels and never update it. It is, however, Google's image that gets tarnished when this happens -- which is why I believe they've done a lot of work re-vising and/or refining of the Nexus line.

    The Nexus line, Google's "flagship" device line, are devices that, in it's current model, are designed to showcase the Android OS. Google's approach has been to showcase their OS on devices that utilize fairly high quality materials in design and push the limits of computing specifications for time when the model is introduced. In spite of that, however, Google also keeps the devices VERY simple when it comes to additional hardware specs. You won't find things like removable batteries and expansion storage and other bells and whistles on the hardware itself (the N4 doesn't even support LTE). Using this model, Google has been able to create some great, albeit no frills, affordable devices -- devices that not only run the latest software with ease, but are also guaranteed to get updated quickly when new Android versions are released.

    To some, running a clean, up-to-date stock version of the OS is a top priority. If you're an app developer, it's almost critical -- and folks love the Nexus line of phones and tablets for that reason. I think though, that to call Nexus the "BEST" Android phones is very incorrect. Yes, the Nexus line is generally at the top of the Android food chain, but there are quite a few high-end Android devices that are (again, in my opinion) far superior, and, for that matter, better to compare to the iPhone experience. The obvious easiest place to start is with the Samsung Galaxy S3.

    Unlike Nexus phones, that are confined to be built within the guidelines of the Nexus model, phones such as the S3 has a lot more features in terms of hardware and software. Some folks don't need it, some folks don't even want it, and that's fine. While I wasn't necessarily a fan of it in the past, I actually feel like Samsung has done a great job with deploying their TouchWiz UI -- which not only adds a level of aesthetics, but also quite a few additional components and functionality to the Android OS -- to their current line of devices running ICS and JB.

    Now, back to my original point: The iPhone is designed to be impressive and competitive in both the hardware and software realms by Apple. You can't by an LG phone running iOS nor does Apple make phones that run anything else -- it is, by default, the gold standard for the entire Apple ecosystem. The Nexus phones, however, are only designed to be the optimal showcase for the Android OS -- Google intentionally doesn't try to compete with hardware specs when it comes to contracting the production of these phones -- both to maintain an ideal environment for development (the phone's target audience) and keep prices affordable enough to be sold off-contract.

    In other words, from a hardware stand point, I'm not sure it's fair to compare the iPhone to the N4. The OP himself mentioned that the price was one his motivators in buying it, and frankly, there's a reason the N4 is as affordable as it is. A device like the S3, which was designed to compete at all levels (hardware and software) with all competitors on the market is a more fair device to compare to the iPhone. It may still lose that fight in the eyes of the OP, but it's at least it's a fair fight.

    Speaking strictly software, the OP and I will have to agree to disagree on that one. Since ICS I fully believe that Android can go head-to-head with iOS and come out on top (but not necessary before ICS). iOS is just too closed and too limited for me, although I admit it is those same limitations (or, if you prefer, simplicity) that inspire much of it's accolades from the masses.
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    Thank you very much for not being rude to me. I am honestly amazed at the hostility on this forum, as I thought it was made up of a more mature, less-touchy adult group. I think I will give it a few more days and see if I can get it to where I like it. OCD is my main problem when it comes to phones, which is, I believe, why I love Apple's phones so much. I hate it when my device seems 'cluttered' - which, as you can see, is sort of what the Android ecosystem is when compared to iOS.
    I'm not sure why you feel Android is cluttered. It takes very little effort to remove everything from your home screens and hide your apps behind the app button. You can have nothing but a clock face if you want (or nothing at all, if that's your preference). Both iOS and Android allow for moving icons around and merging them into folders, so how is Android more cluttered than iOS? Install a launcher like Nova and download an iOS theme, and you can even make Android look like iOS with the exact same grid of icons and everything.

    Again, though, if you don't want to go to that effort, you'll probably be happier with the iPhone.
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