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    Default Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    If you take this link and put your IMEI number at the very end, this LG site will spit back out the IMEI followed by a long string of characters that looks something like this: “LGE960 ACAGBK 212KPHG188745 20121206 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N”

    If you break this string apart, you get:
    LGE960 = phone model
    A = ?
    CA = Country where the device was sold. (Others include ‘US’ for the U.S., ‘HK’ for Hong Kong, ‘AU’ for Australia and so on.)
    G = Storage (G = 16GB, 8 = 8GB)
    BK = Color
    2 = ?
    12 = Production Month (November)
    K = Production Country (Korea)
    PHG = ?
    188745 = The line or production number, showing that phone was the 188,745th device made.
    2012121206 = The production date in YYYYMMDD format

    xda-developers - View Single Post - [INFO] LG Nexus 4 Production Date and Place Identification


    Ok, did additional poking, the results as follows:

    Phone produced in Oct had serial#
    10000 19th of Oct, AUS8BK
    20000 USA
    45000
    60000 AUS
    70123 ATMOBK (t-mobile)

    Something like 70k devices produced in October

    Nov
    73000 1-th AO2UBK (O2 UK model)
    75000 5-th AO2UBK
    80000 5-th AO2UBK
    85000 21-th (?) AUKGBK - strange,
    90000 9-th AUS8BK
    92000 10-th AUS8BK
    95000 - USA
    109000 - GER
    110000 - UK
    132000 - USA
    138000 - USA
    150000 - USA
    160000 - AUSGBK

    DEC
    165000
    264000
    265133 14-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    266133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    267133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    268133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    269133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY
    270133 15-th ASWSBK SWS Switzerland (looks like around 500 units)
    271133 16-th AISRBK Israel
    272133 15-th ADEUBK Germany
    273133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    274133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    275133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    277133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    278133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong
    279133 16-th AMYSBK
    280123 17-th AMYSBK
    289000 18-th UK
    300123 19-th ADEGBK
    305112 19-th ACA8BK
    306000 28-Oct (?) AUSGBK, 211KPPB306000 "csn" is also very different from the "surroundings"
    306001 8-Oct AUSGBK 211KPHG306001 esnoutgodate=null >>Never shipped?
    306009 4-th Dec AUSGBK 212KPHG306009 esnoutgodate=null
    306010 19-th AUS8BK 212KPYR306010 esnoutgodate=null
    306020 19-th AUS8BK esnoutgodate=null
    314001 19-th AFRGBK
    314002 19-th ADEGBK
    314050 19-th ADEGBK
    314123 19-th ADEGBK
    315112 19-th ADE8BK
    319123 20-th ADEGBK
    320123 20-th ADEGBK
    321123 20-th AAUGBK
    325112 20-th AUSGBK
    330123 20-th AUSGBK
    340123 21-th ACAGBK
    350123 22-th AUS8BK
    360123 26-th AUSGBK
    365123 27-th AUS8BK
    370123 27-th AUSGBK
    374110 28-th AUSGBK

    January 2013
    375110 2-th AUS8BK
    377110 3-th ASFRBK
    381110 2-th ASFRBK
    385110 3-th AGBRBK GBR "UNITED KINGDOM" - a new retailer? Play store was a AUKGBK
    390110 3-th AUSGBK
    395110 4-th AUSGBK
    399110 3-th ATMOBK
    400110 4-th AUSGBK
    406110 4-th AUSGBK
    419110 5-th AUSGBK
    420110 6-th ADEGBK
    422110 6-th ADEGBK
    423110 5-th ATMOBK





    424110 10-th AUSGBK
    425110 8-th AUSGBK
    430110 5-th ATMOBK
    435110 5-th ATMOBK
    445110 9-th ATMOBK
    450110 9-th ATMOBK
    451110 8-th ANEUBK "EUROPE OPEN" - something new
    455110 8-th ANEUBK
    456110 8-th ACAGBK CANADA_OPEN
    461110 8-th ATMOBK
    463110 8-th ADEGBK
    465110 8-th ADEGBK
    467110 9-th ADEGBK
    469110 9-th ADEGBK
    471110 9-th ATMOBK
    474110 9-th ATMOBK
    476110 9-th ATMOBK
    479110 9-th AUS8BK
    482110 9-th ATMOBK
    485110 10-th AUKGBK "UNITED KINGDOM_OPEN"
    487110 10-th AUKGBK
    489110 10-th AUKGBK
    491110 10-th AAVCBK VIDEOTRON - seems to be a Canadian telco?
    493110 10-th ADEUBK
    495110 10-th ADEUBK
    497110 10-th AISRBK
    499500 10-th AUKGBK
    502035 11-th AUSGBK
    507035 11-th AUSGBK
    512035 11-th AUS8BK
    513035 11-th AUS8BK

    Ladies and gentleman, we seem to be approaching the serial number "half of the million" Curious who will be getting it

    Production rate seems to be accelerating to 20k devices per day.

    To reach 750,000 a month, the production would need to produce 750,000 / 30 days = 25,000 a day. Right now, it is at 20,000 a day.


    The rate is as followed:

    October: 70,000
    November: 90,000
    December: 210,000
    January so far (as of January 18th): 315,000 and on pace for 600,000

    Total so far - January18th: 685,000
    Predicted total at the end of January: 970,000








    Could LG going for volume to make up for the low margin?

    Crude Example using hypothetical #:

    selling 1 million phones at $50 profit each = $50 million profit
    selling 4 million phones at $15 profit each = $60 million profit
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Quote Originally Posted by BookReader2
    Could LG going for volume to make up for the low margin?
    Right now, increases in production by LG are almost certainly a result of the initial product shortages (due to Google's low estimates for consumer demand) rather than an attempt to offset a low profit margin by moving a greater number of devices. In the future, however, that's definitely plausible. I'm sure they will want to move a larger number of devices to try and offset the aforementioned thin profit margin.

    As for nearing 750k a month, I have nothing to say except "let there be mako."
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Doubt it will go up to 750,000. Not THAT many people want the phone. Maybe for only one month but probably not next month.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Maybe but most people don't even know about the nexus 4. Unless it is named "Droid" or "Galaxy" most people don't really know about any android phones, they just buy what they see in the stores or a nerdy friend of their's tells them to buy.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Where was this production rate in November/December? They could have probably sold twice the amount or more of whatever they've sold so far, if they didn't botch up the release.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Quote Originally Posted by John-Smith View Post
    Where was this production rate in November/December? They could have probably sold twice the amount or more of whatever they've sold so far, if they didn't botch up the release.
    The demand in the UK and Germany was 10 times greater than the supply according to LG French executive.

    Nexus 4 is over 703,000 right now.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    If they sell 3x as many n4 as gnex, it is still only a total of around 1.6 million units.

    I have doubts about the guess the guy on xda came up with.

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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Quote Originally Posted by piizzadude View Post
    If they sell 3x as many n4 as gnex, it is still only a total of around 1.6 million units.

    I have doubts about the guess the guy on xda came up with.

    Sent from the nexus of the Android world, the SGS3.
    On reports that only 375,000 or so Nexus 4s had been sold (based on analysis of serial numbers on Internet forums), Robin describes this number as "much lower" than the actual sales figures.

    and it is not really a guess since the information is provided by the LG website. Put in the info you get from your phone and it will split out something like this:

    <model>LGE960</model>
    <suffix>AUKGBK</suffix>
    <msn>301KPAE577000</msn>
    <esndate>20130113</esndate>
    <buyer>UKG</buyer>
    <esnoutgodate>null</esnoutgodate>
    <ULocationcode>N</ULocationcode>
    <buyername>UNITED KINGDOM_OPEN</buyername>
    <csn>LG0000502521437</csn>




    [INFO] LG Nexus 4 Production Date and Place Identification - Page 31 - xda-developers

    Probably out of the LG database by poking at the serial numbers. LG does seem to assign them in sequential manner with no big holes in between.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    first it isnt an LG guy making the statement, it is some guy making a hypothesis but lets go with what you have.

    "no big holes" --How big? How Many? does the sequence skip every other number. How about every 10th?
    next, there is quality control. Some are just thrown back to the recycling bin.
    How many pre-production model numbers were used, you know just testing the line?
    Made is not equal to sold
    Post #40 brings up another question mark.
    Finally where did they start? looking at that thread, it started at 200K but was that because of what I stated above, or is that just the start date?

    I honestly am not pooping on the parade, it could be right. We will not know for sure until someone at Google or LG says 500K have been made and the numbers line up. Until then it is just speculation
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Quote Originally Posted by piizzadude View Post
    first it isnt an LG guy making the statement, it is some guy making a hypothesis but lets go with what you have.

    "no big holes" --How big? How Many? does the sequence skip every other number. How about every 10th?
    next, there is quality control. Some are just thrown back to the recycling bin.
    How many pre-production model numbers were used, you know just testing the line?
    Made is not equal to sold
    Post #40 brings up another question mark.
    Finally where did they start? looking at that thread, it started at 200K but was that because of what I stated above, or is that just the start date?

    I honestly am not pooping on the parade, it could be right. We will not know for sure until someone at Google or LG says 500K have been made and the numbers line up. Until then it is just speculation
    Robin is not a random guy making a hypothesis. And she is the LG Mobile France director.

    Today, an interview with LG Mobile France director Cathy Robin could give us our clearest indication of what's actually going on behind the scenes with supplies of the LG-made Nexus phone. Speaking with French outlet Challenges.fr,
    .
    .
    Robin denies LG is selling the Nexus 4 at a loss, but says there's an agreement in place with Google to sell it at a "very attractive price."
    .
    On reports that only 375,000 or so Nexus 4s had been sold (based on analysis of serial numbers on Internet forums), Robin describes this number as "much lower" than the actual sales figures.



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    A Little Sleuthing Leads Nexus 4 Enthusiasts To Estimate About 400K In Sales Of The Device | TechCrunch

    However, a little sleuthing by some Android enthusiasts and Nexus 4 owners suggests that LG produced about 400,000 devices going into the end of last year.

    How did they do it? They’ve taken the IMEI numbers of their phones and backtracked the production number of their devices using an LG mobile link that’s usually used for finding new firmware. An IMEI number, or International Mobile Station Equipment Identity number, is usually printed on the battery compartment of the inside of the phone. It can be used to prevent stolen phones from accessing a network.

    If you take this link and put your IMEI number at the very end, this LG site will spit back out the IMEI followed by a long string of characters that looks something like this: “LGE960 ACAGBK 212KPHG188745 20121206 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N”

    If you break this string apart, you get:
    LGE960 = phone model
    A = ?
    CA = Country where the device was sold. (Others include ‘US’ for the U.S., ‘HK’ for Hong Kong, ‘AU’ for Australia and so on.)
    G = Storage (G = 16GB, 8 = 8GB)
    BK = Color
    2 = ?
    12 = Production Month (November)
    K = Production Country (Korea)
    PHG = ?
    188745 = The line or production number, showing that phone was the 188,745th device made.
    2012121206 = The production date in YYYYMMDD format

    A number of Nexus 4 owners have been sharing and compiling the production numbers day by day (see below). It suggests that LG made about 70,000 devices in October, 90,000 in November and 210,000 in December.


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    If you have a NEXUS 4, look for the IMEI number and put it to at the end of this link, it will you all the info.

    http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b...heck2.jsp?esn=

    EXAMPLE: (i took out the hyperlink)
    [csmg.lg(IGNORE)mobilecom:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=(IGNORE)
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    I am not sure of your entire point.

    First off, a supplier of an item has no idea of the sales figures from another company. They only know how much of an item is ordered.

    Next, who is the point you are trying to make?

    Sent from the nexus of the Android world, the SGS3.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Quote Originally Posted by piizzadude View Post
    I am not sure of your entire point.

    First off, a supplier of an item has no idea of the sales figures from another company. They only know how much of an item is ordered.

    Next, who is the point you are trying to make?

    Sent from the nexus of the Android world, the SGS3.
    My point is that XDA-Developers # might be accurate.

    They’ve taken the IMEI numbers of their phones and backtracked the production number of their devices using an LG mobile link that’s usually used for finding new firmware.




    LGE960 ACAGBK 212KPHG188745 20121206 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N”

    If you break this string apart, you get:

    188745 = The line or production number, showing that phone was the 188,745th device made.
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    Default Re: Is LG production rate now nearing 750,000 Nexus 4 per month?

    Ok I got that but...

    It doesn't mean sold
    And the title of the thread states 750k per month, not total.
    750k total is still misleading for the reasons I posted earlier, but I could say that it is a very good educated guess

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