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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    Don't hold your breath. I doubt that we will see it until spring. If ever.

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    lol... with no mention that it was even a thought by anyone at LG, Google, or even down to the cleaning staff there, why would anyone even assume that they were going to?
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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    Nobody can answer this for you. Personally, I don't think they will, but even if they did, it would probably 6 months or more from now. At that point, you only have to wait another 2 or 3 months for the next Nexus to come out.
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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    Quote Originally Posted by donm527 View Post
    lol... with no mention that it was even a thought by anyone at LG, Google, or even down to the cleaning staff there, why would anyone even assume that they were going to?
    People here assumed that because Google went from 8/16 to 16/32 on the Nexus 7, it would only be a matter of time that the Nexus 4 would make that same shift.

    I laughed at that notion, but here we are, 2 months later and people still think that's going to happen.
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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    And here we are, 2 months later, and there is no 32 GB version. It was a mistake to compare it with the Nexus 7 in the first place. The better comparison would have been Galaxy Nexus which is the only other unlocked phone Google has released. The Galaxy Nexus , as released by Google, never had a model with more storage then 16 gigabytes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yfan View Post
    And here we are, 2 months later, and there is no 32 GB version. It was a mistake to compare it with the Nexus 7 in the first place. The better comparison would have been Galaxy Nexus which is the only other unlocked phone Google has released. The Galaxy Nexus , as released by Google, never had a model with more storage then 16 gigabytes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yfan View Post
    And here we are, 2 months later, and there is no 32 GB version. It was a mistake to compare it with the Nexus 7 in the first place. The better comparison would have been Galaxy Nexus which is the only other unlocked phone Google has released. The Galaxy Nexus , as released by Google, never had a model with more storage then 16 gigabytes.

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    The times they are a changin. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. After 2 months would seem a bit quick IMO. But 32 is the new normal now. Not sure why they bothered with the 8gb at all on the Nexus 4 or 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    The times they are a changin. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. After 2 months would seem a bit quick IMO. But 32 is the new normal now. Not sure why they bothered with the 8gb at all on the Nexus 4 or 7.

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    They bothered with the 8 gigabytes on the Nexus 4 after releasing the unlocked galaxy nexus only as a 16 gigabyte model. That indicates that when it comes to phones, Google is not looking to expand on board storage. Instead, it is looking to expand the use of cloud storage. It also seems to be more interested in keeping the price low to appeal to the broader market even if they have to be done at the expense of greater storage capacity.

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    i imagine because nexus devices were considered more developer devices? in that case why need so much memory? and you had a relatively small following of nexus fans.
    its clear google fell into a winning brand name this year with the nexus line. they got the OS really good and they got the hardware to be competitive with the best and now its mainstream and not a small niche of fans. boy it's gonna be tough getting the next years phones i bet.

    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    The times they are a changin. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. After 2 months would seem a bit quick IMO. But 32 is the new normal now. Not sure why they bothered with the 8gb at all on the Nexus 4 or 7.

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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    Google wants you to store your stuff online. How hard is that to grasp?



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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    No rumors of it appearing lately about a 32 gb that i know of. Just speculations. Well google is trying to make this phone rely on the cloud more so than actual storage so i dont think you should wait, if itll ever come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone down south View Post
    Google wants you to store your stuff online. How hard is that to grasp?



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    While I agree this is Google's thinking, they seem to forget the #1 selling apps are always games and most games are 1GB or larger and require being stored locally on the device. Until google can change that, bigger storage is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    While I agree this is Google's thinking, they seem to forget the #1 selling apps are always games and most games are 1GB or larger and require being stored locally on the device. Until google can change that, bigger storage is required.
    Eh, top 16 paid applications are less than 100 MB i think. Didn't check it manually but i'm just guessing but yeah storage is pretty important. Reason i got the 16gb. good for media and everything I need. Store the rest onto my 50 gb box account and google drive
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    While I agree this is Google's thinking, they seem to forget the #1 selling apps are always games and most games are 1GB or larger and require being stored locally on the device. Until google can change that, bigger storage is required.
    Let's crunch the numbers -

    The top-grossing app downloads list is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/c...e=top-grossing

    Of the top 25, 23 are games.

    Rage of Bahamut 16
    Candy Crush Saga 32
    MARVEL War of Heroes 8
    Dark Summoner 14
    Slotomania - slot machines 26
    Blood Brothers (RPG) 19
    The Hobbit: Kingdoms 30
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    DragonVale 25
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    The number next to each app is their download size.

    That's about 520.5MB worth of stuff, averaging to about 20.82MB per download. Of course, this doesn't take into account if any of those apps require additional data downloads after install.

    You're right, most of the top grossing apps are games. But the 1GB per game seems to be off the mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    While I agree this is Google's thinking, they seem to forget the #1 selling apps are always games and most games are 1GB or larger and require being stored locally on the device. Until google can change that, bigger storage is required.
    I really don't think the Nexus 4 - or for that matter the Nexus line of products - is meant to be primarily a gaming device. It's meant to be a pure Android experience with Google services, much of which increasingly rely on the cloud. It's meant to be that device with a sweet price tag. For those who want a device to load a whole bunch of games, Nexus 4 is not the phone for them. There are plenty of other Android phones to choose from that have both more internal storage and SD card expandability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    Let's crunch the numbers -

    The top-grossing app downloads list is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/c...e=top-grossing
    That's not a good way to judge. The captain america game (https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...l.capinstaller) says it's 22MB, but when you install it and start it up it says it needs to download additional data which bloats it to 800MB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6tr6tr View Post
    That's not a good way to judge. The captain america game (https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...l.capinstaller) says it's 22MB, but when you install it and start it up it says it needs to download additional data which bloats it to 900MB.
    But not every game is like that. Assuming one game requires 900MB of extra data isn't a good way to judge either.

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    That's about 520.5MB worth of stuff, averaging to about 20.82MB per download. Of course, this doesn't take into account if any of those apps require additional data downloads after install.
    I'm looking at Candy Crush Saga on my Nexus 7. The app is taking about 32 MB of space, 9 MB of data.
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    i dont think that storage is an issue to most. and i think google understood that the phone wont fit everyones needs by not including sd card slot when it could have been easy since its an optimus g board which the g has. they wanted a phone that met their requirements for development imo and they got it... and people that want different options have other phones to go to... i just dont think they thought this phone would be talked about alongside the best of the phones at the time. will be interesting how this will effect future nexus phones.

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    But not every game is like that. Assuming one game requires 900MB of extra data isn't a good way to judge either.



    I'm looking at Candy Crush Saga on my Nexus 7. The app is taking about 32 MB of space, 9 MB of data.
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    Default Re: Over two months later, is it worth it to wait/hope for a Nexus 4 32GB?

    The issue I see complained about the most here is not that it doesn't have expandable memory. It's the fact that there are only 8GB and 16GB versions available. 16GB isn't enough for those people. If feels like they want the Nexus 4 to start at 32GB, minimum.
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    They bothered with the 8 gigabytes on the Nexus 4 after releasing the unlocked galaxy nexus only as a 16 gigabyte model. That indicates that when it comes to phones, Google is not looking to expand on board storage. Instead, it is looking to expand the use of cloud storage. It also seems to be more interested in keeping the price low to appeal to the broader market even if they have to be done at the expense of greater storage capacity.

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    Ya I get that but for many people they run out of room just with installed apps. It doesn't make sense for anyone to sell anything less than 16gb. The price thing is fine but if they do the same thing as they did with the Nexus 7 then that doesn't even measure up. The extra 8gb is such a negligible cost that many people who buy the 8gb are bitter after they release the 16gb for the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    Let's crunch the numbers -

    The top-grossing app downloads list is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/c...e=top-grossing

    Of the top 25, 23 are games.

    Rage of Bahamut16
    Candy Crush Saga32
    MARVEL War of Heroes8
    Dark Summoner14
    Slotomania - slot machines26
    Blood Brothers (RPG)19
    The Hobbit: Kingdoms30
    Slot City - slot machines11
    Live Hold'em Poker Pro13
    Minecraft - Pocket Edition6
    Zynga Poker26
    Shipwrecked25
    Kingdoms of Camelot: Battle28
    Modern War28
    Bingo Bash28
    DoubleDown Casino - Slots13
    Legend of the Cryptids40
    Age of Empire18
    DragonVale25
    BINGO Blitz by Buffalo Studios26
    Ruzzle17
    Subway Surfers22
    TurboTax SnapTax12
    HellFire37
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    The number next to each app is their download size.

    That's about 520.5MB worth of stuff, averaging to about 20.82MB per download. Of course, this doesn't take into account if any of those apps require additional data downloads after install.

    You're right, most of the top grossing apps are games. But the 1GB per game seems to be off the mark.
    But there is also associated data for some apps too. Saved data, preferences etc. It may not be huge but can add up. A program like Titanium backup can store over a GB easily.

    I would also like the option to not have to save all my photos and videos to the cloud when I'm on vacation if needed. WiFi in some remote spots is sketchy or really expensive. 8gb disappears pretty fast with this in mind. 16gb works fine for me but I can see that 32GB would be the best option for lots of people. Especially when HTC is going to 64.

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    Ya I get that but for many people they run out of room just with installed apps. It doesn't make sense for anyone to sell anything less than 16gb. The price thing is fine but if they do the same thing as they did with the Nexus 7 then that doesn't even measure up. The extra 8gb is such a negligible cost that many people who buy the 8gb are bitter after they release the 16gb for the same price.
    With respect to price, Google is already most likely selling the Nexus 4's at a loss (or at least at cost). This pretty much rules out the option to increase storage capacity without raising the price. And for a lot of people like myself, 8gb is actually plenty. I have a fair amount of apps but no games. I am a pretty heavy user of streaming video, podcasts, and so forth. All my music is on Google Music, on the cloud. I have all my photos/videos automatically uploaded to Google Plus and/or Dropbox. I had the 16gb Galaxy Nexus and saw then that I was using way less than half the storage. So I opted for the 8gb version of Nexus 4 and saved $50. Not saying that I'm a typical case. I'm not. But it does in fact make sense for some buyers to get the 8gb model.

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    I would also like the option to not have to save all my photos and videos to the cloud when I'm on vacation if needed. WiFi in some remote spots is sketchy or really expensive. 8gb disappears pretty fast with this in mind. 16gb works fine for me but I can see that 32GB would be the best option for lots of people. Especially when HTC is going to 64.
    You may well be correct for a broad spectrum of the market. But Google didn't make the Nexus 4 for that broad spectrum of the market. It made it for those who actually can use the cloud most of the time, for those who don't leave their photos and videos all stored on their phone. And it made it for them at a rewarding price point. From the robust interest, it seems to have hit the sweet spot on balance as well.

    The Nexus 4 won't meet everyone's needs or wants. It isn't designed to. That's why we have so many different phones with different options and different prices.
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    But there is also associated data for some apps too. Saved data, preferences etc. It may not be huge but can add up. A program like Titanium backup can store over a GB easily.

    I would also like the option to not have to save all my photos and videos to the cloud when I'm on vacation if needed. WiFi in some remote spots is sketchy or really expensive. 8gb disappears pretty fast with this in mind. 16gb works fine for me but I can see that 32GB would be the best option for lots of people. Especially when HTC is going to 64.

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    yes but with 23 games and lets say titanium backup lets just clock that up to 2GB for the heck of it (even though it easily isn't) That still leaves about 10 GB left on your device for anything else. 5 GB of music? Still got 5 GB of music left. Put some root stuff in (i'm just putting storage because i mean why not) of 1 GB, still got 4GB left. 16GB is fine for me and I can't see me using anymore than that. 8GB is completely useless for me but some people might have unlimited data and it works fine for them.
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    With respect to price, Google is already most likely selling the Nexus 4's at a loss (or at least at cost). This pretty much rules out the option to increase storage capacity without raising the price. And for a lot of people like myself, 8gb is actually plenty. I have a fair amount of apps but no games. I am a pretty heavy user of streaming video, podcasts, and so forth. All my music is on Google Music, on the cloud. I have all my photos/videos automatically uploaded to Google Plus and/or Dropbox. I had the 16gb Galaxy Nexus and saw then that I was using way less than half the storage. So I opted for the 8gb version of Nexus 4 and saved $50. Not saying that I'm a typical case. I'm not. But it does in fact make sense for some buyers to get the 8gb model.


    You may well be correct for a broad spectrum of the market. But Google didn't make the Nexus 4 for that broad spectrum of the market. It made it for those who actually can use the cloud most of the time, for those who don't leave their photos and videos all stored on their phone. And it made it for them at a rewarding price point. From the robust interest, it seems to have hit the sweet spot on balance as well.

    The Nexus 4 won't meet everyone's needs or wants. It isn't designed to. That's why we have so many different phones with different options and different prices.
    Really? Okay let's take your logic in this. I know what you are saying and get why you are saying it... But. This would be the stupidest business decision in the history of the universe.

    1. Let's put in all the specs that make this the fastest phone to date.

    2. Let's add in extra ram to make sure it doesn't slow down.

    3. Let's put in a super high quality display in HD.

    4. Let's limit the phone to an exclusive group of nerds that don't want to install or store anything on the phone just so we can get our developers to be able to make apps.

    5.?

    I'm okay with limiting storage. As I've said, 16gb is fine for me, but let's not get all dressed up and not go to the dance over $10 because that's what we are talking about here. The cost to add a bit of space is insignificant.

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