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Re: So is the Nexus 4 the best android phone?
Yes, I suppose so, insofar as quoting what you say can be considered "putting words in your mouth." You're clearly unwilling to defend what you say when it falls apart to critical questioning.
Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn
What does the monetary value or manpower of a software maker have to do with whether what they make is Android or not? The whole debate we are having is whether something is Android. One of your arguments was that since Touchwiz/Sense etc. impede the speed of direct Android updates, they cannot be considered Android. I simply pointed out that under that line of reasoning, neither can CM.
But thanks for agreeing that adding Touchwiz or Sense does in fact increase the time it takes to push out updates. Also, not so sure CM is a great comparison, since they aren't a multi million/billion dollar company. Give them the same man power that Samsung has to get CM working great on ONE device and see how long it takes.
So carefully, in fact, that neither the poster who pointed this out first nor you are willing to provide the actual quote in context. I also responded to that post. Did you happen to read it? I asked them to provide context, and that I doubted he said it in the context of distinguishing those devices from stock Android devices (like you said, it doesn't have to be a Nexus device or made by Google in order for it to be considered Android by you, just stock). Anyway, I am still waiting for the actual quote in context.
Something that I didn't touch on that was stated by someone else here, is that Vic Gundotra specifically referred to the S3 as being Android-based. This was not a mistake and his words were surely chosen carefully.
In addition, I also pointed out the GS3 is listed here on Android Central Forums under 'Android phones.'
Well thank you. As I said, I have only owned Nexus phones for the past few years. I like pure Android devices. No one is arguing that Samsung or HTC doesn't modify the AOSP version of Android. But the fact is so does CM, and a whole host of other ROM developers, and I don't believe those modifications disqualify those phones from being Android phones.
So yeah, if you want an Android phone that will give you the experience that Google wants you to have then get a Nexus. The S3 or Note 2 will give you the experience Samsung wants you to have. And honestly, there's nothing wrong with that, either. Different strokes for different folks.