08-15-2013 10:03 AM
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  1. tpd15's Avatar
    I woke up this morning to a bunch of warning messages that my Nexus 4-16 had insufficient storage available update some apps (Play Magazines, WiCall, Starbucks, LinkedIn, Wallet, Amazon). There were a couple yesterday, too. I took screenshots, and it seems like I have 500 MB. How much memory do I need?!





    04-19-2013 08:12 AM
  2. p08757's Avatar
    Remove some of your music and you should be fine.

    I'm really hoping when they make the Nexux5, or what ever they call it, they include a model that has at least 32GB of storage.
    04-19-2013 08:15 AM
  3. still1's Avatar
    Android will try to keep some memory free for it to work properly.
    after a certain memory limit is reached it will block all the installs to make sure Android has enough storage to run.
    I am not sure about the exact storage after which it will block installs but in your case it looks like 500mb.
    clear some space and you should be fine.
    04-19-2013 08:21 AM
  4. greydarrah's Avatar
    Are you rooted and if so have you made any nandroid backups? I ask because I found mine being stored in 2 different places taking up an extra 3 to 5 gb.

    8gb seems like a lot of music. Is is all songs (that you might move to the cloud?), or are you holding onto some other stuff like podcast?
    04-19-2013 09:44 AM
  5. wunderbar's Avatar
    stupid question, but have you tried rebooting the phone?
    04-19-2013 09:51 AM
  6. warpaper's Avatar
    i encounter the same problem here, any solution?
    06-27-2013 09:50 PM
  7. mr_nobody's Avatar
    i encounter the same problem here, any solution?
    Yes, free some disk space by deleting apps or content.
    06-28-2013 09:28 AM
  8. JeffDenver's Avatar
    I woke up this morning to a bunch of warning messages that my Nexus 4-16 had insufficient storage available update some apps (Play Magazines, WiCall, Starbucks, LinkedIn, Wallet, Amazon). There were a couple yesterday, too. I took screenshots, and it seems like I have 500 MB. How much memory do I need?!
    Google has decided that you do not need to keep stuff on your phone, and need to be streaming it from the cloud instead. So this problem only occurs when you disagree with Google.

    If you have less than a gig free at any given time, I would start deleting stuff. There is nothing else you can do. The nexus needs about that much breathing room.
    06-28-2013 10:31 AM
  9. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Google has decided that you do not need to keep stuff on your phone, and need to be streaming it from the cloud instead. So this problem only occurs when you disagree with Google.
    Google decided this?

    Interesting. I didn't know Google commanded anyone which devices they were required to purchase.
    06-29-2013 06:09 AM
  10. Christopher Matthews Jr's Avatar
    Yo, drop some of those pictures into the cloud.. Never have more than 100 Mbs of pictures on my phone at any given time.

    Google Drive that ish. Lol

    Tapped from my Nexus 10.1
    06-29-2013 06:13 AM
  11. dkhmwilliams's Avatar
    Google decided this?

    Interesting. I didn't know Google commanded anyone which devices they were required to purchase.
    He is speaking of Google's overall philosophy of using the cloud and streaming functionality instead of using internal storage. The way he wrote it was to be facetious.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
    06-29-2013 06:33 AM
  12. monsieurms's Avatar
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    If you have less than a gig free at any given time, I would start deleting stuff. There is nothing else you can do. The nexus needs about that much breathing room.
    You can always clear caches, too. That helps. Some apps, like Facebook, seem to keep eating up space as it's cleared, though.

    NB: I'm not sure if the music here was DELIBERATELY stored. If the OP is streaming, there is a setting in Play MUSIC to turn OFF caching. DO NOT CACHE. That downloads everything you're streaming and eats up your space in an eyeblink.

    The other solution is to get rid of the Nexus and buy something with an SD card slot for all that music that has clobbered the phone. Ahem. SD card slots uber alles.
    06-29-2013 06:56 AM
  13. Christopher Matthews Jr's Avatar
    I think that last 500mb is the system partition.

    Doesn't android come with like ~504mb for the system partition?

    Tapped from my Nexus 10.1
    06-29-2013 07:06 AM
  14. Captainbob767's Avatar
    Google has decided that you do not need to keep stuff on your phone, and need to be streaming it from the cloud instead. So this problem only occurs when you disagree with Google.
    mr_nobody and TheLibertarian like this.
    06-29-2013 08:02 AM
  15. JeffDenver's Avatar
    Google decided this?
    Yes. Google created the Nexus 4. You learn something new every day.
    07-02-2013 10:38 AM
  16. JeffDenver's Avatar
    You can always clear caches, too. That helps.
    In the short term it does. But the caches are for stuff you use, so they will fill up again eventually. It is better than nothing, but it's a bandaid solution. I had to do that on the Droid 1 and it was a hassle.

    The other solution is to get rid of the Nexus and buy something with an SD card slot for all that music that has clobbered the phone. Ahem. SD card slots uber alles.
    Until recently there were no real alternatives to the Nexus if you wanted a fast Vanilla Android system. And even now, there still kinda aren't, since Google is not updating the GE devices directly like we thought they would. But there are more vanilla android choices now and that is never a bad thing.
    07-02-2013 10:43 AM
  17. monsieurms's Avatar
    In the short term it does. But the caches are for stuff you use, so they will fill up again eventually. It is better than nothing, but it's a bandaid solution..
    Well, yes, but a band-aid can help a lot when you're bleeding. If you need to make a critical update, clearing the cache let's you make it. If it fills up again, you've still got your update. Plus, there are some programs that may have been used at some point--like, say, Google+---and not used much since. They may have built up a cache. Clear everything--data, cache, etc. When you need them again, then worry about it.

    I don't disagree that it's a hassle. But when you're literally running out of space (and on my old Sensation I was dropping down below 100 megs at times), every little bit helps, every trick to at least keep you up and running.
    07-02-2013 12:08 PM
  18. jaredsutter's Avatar
    NB: I'm not sure if the music here was DELIBERATELY stored. If the OP is streaming, there is a setting in Play MUSIC to turn OFF caching. DO NOT CACHE. That downloads everything you're streaming and eats up your space in an eyeblink.
    Allowing it to cache in Play Music, or pinning music for offline play, increases the App Size, and is not stored under Audio. I have 152kb under Audio, but my Play Music app weighs in at 3.4GB because of cacheing and pinning. Your advice is good, but not applicable to OP, who has 8 gigs of audio files stored on the device, which seems a bit excessive to me, but not unreasonable.

    I would agree with Christopher Matthews - the phone is not the place to store pictures. Move them to the cloud or to a computer or both, and you'll free up 3 gigs real quick.
    07-02-2013 12:29 PM
  19. JeffDenver's Avatar
    I don't disagree that it's a hassle. But when you're literally running out of space (and on my old Sensation I was dropping down below 100 megs at times), every little bit helps, every trick to at least keep you up and running.
    The only real permanent fix is to simply delete media files. It sucks that it is even necessary, but there really is no way around it. I can store a good sized chunk of my MP3 library (6 gigs) and a few ebooks, but I can't keep videos or comics or whatever on my phone anymore.
    07-02-2013 03:23 PM
  20. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Yes. Google created the Nexus 4. You learn something new every day.
    I'll quote both your post and my prior post as you still seem to struggle with quoting.

    Google has decided that you do not need to keep stuff on your phone, and need to be streaming it from the cloud instead. So this problem only occurs when you disagree with Google.
    Google decided this?

    Interesting. I didn't know Google commanded anyone which devices they were required to purchase.
    When will your childish forum antics pass away? Word of advice: don't buy the next Nexus device. They aren't designed for a consumer like you, and you made the wrong choice in buying the Nexus 4 do to you failing to appropritely diagnose your needs from a phone. You made a mistake, and if it wasn't clear, that's your fault, too. You are the flaw here, not the Google or the Nexus 4 that you incorrectly chose to buy.
    07-03-2013 08:02 AM
  21. monsieurms's Avatar
    The only real permanent fix is to simply delete media files. It sucks that it is even necessary, but there really is no way around it. I can store a good sized chunk of my MP3 library (6 gigs) and a few ebooks, but I can't keep videos or comics or whatever on my phone anymore.
    Well, I understand reality is that it is difficult to toss an expensive phone. Lessons learned are for next time. For the moment, it is what it is. In fact, however, I'd have to suggest that the real "permanent fix" is not to buy things that don't have SD card slots if you want lots of media files. I know current Nexus owners don't want to hear that, but your story and the OP's are both good examples of why "no SD card slot" was an absolute deal breaker for me and a priority over other issues. I am a media junkie. I have over 50 gigs of Mp3s. I like having that.
    07-03-2013 08:22 AM
  22. Captainbob767's Avatar
    Well, I understand reality is that it is difficult to toss an expensive phone. Lessons learned are for next time. For the moment, it is what it is. In fact, however, I'd have to suggest that the real "permanent fix" is not to buy things that don't have SD card slots if you want lots of media files. I know current Nexus owners don't want to hear that, but your story and the OP's are both good examples of why "no SD card slot" was an absolute deal breaker for me and a priority over other issues. I am a media junkie. I have over 50 gigs of Mp3s. I like having that.

    Unfortunately in today's world, if you buy a product and didn't do the proper research and understand the principles involved prior to the purchase, the likelihood of making a poor decision is fairly high. After making that mistake, to start complaining about the product you purchased, rather than your poor choice in selecting that product, is rather ridiculous. If you want a car that can do 140mph in 1/4 mile, buying a Toyota Prius, and then complaining to everyone on a Toyota Forum, that Toyota made a mistake designing the Prius because it doesn't go fast enough, is rather stupid in my opinion and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
    07-03-2013 08:37 AM
  23. JeffDenver's Avatar
    For the moment, it is what it is. In fact, however, I'd have to suggest that the real "permanent fix" is not to buy things that don't have SD card slots if you want lots of media files.
    The problem with that fix is that you will be forced to use a phone polluted with a vendor skin. Which is a lot worse than not having SD.

    So you have to pick the lesser of two evils. I would rather live without SD than have to live with pollution like Touchwiz or Sense or Motoblur. I have experienced all three and I absolutely despise them.
    07-03-2013 10:26 AM
  24. monsieurms's Avatar
    The problem with that fix is that you will be forced to use a phone polluted with a vendor skin. Which is a lot worse than not having SD.

    So you have to pick the lesser of two evils. I would rather live without SD than have to live with pollution like Touchwiz or Sense or Motoblur. I have experienced all three and I absolutely despise them.
    I'll have to disagree with that. I like Samsung's features. If I didn't, they'd be a minor inconvenience compared with losing 50 gigs of music and all my ebooks. Without removable batteries and SD card slots and a good screen size, the phone is impractical to use for my purposes.

    But there's an obvious solution...you can always buy a S4 and root it if you hate the touchwiz so much. And then you have the SD card slot and the removable batteries and the big screen, too. I don't much think it's worth the effort to do personally, but it's always an option. OTOH, you can't add a SD card slot to a Nexus....so, you're trapped without a solution. That was the logic to me.
    07-03-2013 03:17 PM
  25. moosc's Avatar
    First why in Jesus name do u have a task killer? Task killer is a no no with android. Second how many magazines do u have stored on the device? Second get drop box or use Google+ to store photos. And dump atk

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
    07-03-2013 03:30 PM
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