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    Default Re: Google talk update (to hangouts)

    So I just had the update in Gmail, and there is a way to know whether your contact is idle or not. If your contact is active, there is a green bar under their profile picture to let you know your contact can reply to you straight away. I don't see the same in the android app, but if they do it in the browser perhaps it will come to android.
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    As a general note to everyone: a lot of valid complaints about the lackluster features and lacking functionality or Hangouts, imperfections, etc, but here's the thing about Google I've noticed over the last 2 years being an Android enthusiast..

    Google innovates and comes up with new ideas, apps, and features. Much more and better than Apple or any of the other competitors. And they will often introduce their new stuff when it's not quite perfected yet. Most of us have seen that with new Android versions and other new Google apps; when the new things are first given to us there are always these same complaints but if you fast forward a bit they almost always turn into great things. The guys at Google get excited about their new innovations as much as we do and they don't mind giving us almost "beta" versions of them to play with. Contrast that with Apple for example, who will take much longer to introduce something new, but generally when they do its a better initial experience than it is with Google's new thing (let's leave out their uncharacteristic Apple Maps fiasco for the sake of this point). It was like this with Google Drive at first, Google+, many new major Android versions, etc etc..

    I love and much prefer Google's way, and that's why I've learned to not go crazy when the new experiments seem underwhelming at first. I understand and love the process and look forward to seeing where it all goes, which is almost always somewhere awesome.

    So hangouts will have some time and I am very optimistic that this new idea has the potential to become something very very useful in due time, which we'll all grow to love soon enough.

    I'm also a few beers deep, hence the long ramble. Happy Friday everyone :beer:


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2defmouze View Post
    I'm also a few beers deep, hence the long ramble. Happy Friday everyone :beer:
    cheers!
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  4. #29  

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    If the person is online you see the picture, if not it's a Grey box.. it's that simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysbg View Post
    So I just had the update in Gmail, and there is a way to know whether your contact is idle or not. If your contact is active, there is a green bar under their profile picture to let you know your contact can reply to you straight away. I don't see the same in the android app, but if they do it in the browser perhaps it will come to android.
    The G+ web version, as well as the chrome extension for the desktop type app do the same.

    On the mobile version, look at the profile picture. if they are active it looks normal, if they are inactive it is greyed out.
  6. #31  

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    Whether the picture is greyed out or not in the android app is not equivalent to the green underlining in the gmail / g+ web version. The green underlining tells you whether a contact is "green" as opposed to "orange" (I suppose red contacts don't exist anymore with hangouts). The greying out tells you if a contacts is offline vs online.
  7. #32  

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    It would be nice if they made this a 1 stop SMS/mms/email app. Where u could have normal contacts, email chats, Facebook chats all in one

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  8. #33  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysbg View Post
    Whether the picture is greyed out or not in the android app is not equivalent to the green underlining in the gmail / g+ web version. The green underlining tells you whether a contact is "green" as opposed to "orange" (I suppose red contacts don't exist anymore with hangouts). The greying out tells you if a contacts is offline vs online.
    Everyone is online 24/7 as long as their phone is on.....(and logged in of course)

    Lid box mean the person is a active within the hangouts app, grayed means the person is idle.

    We can message the person whenever we want regardless. When we sent SMS, we don't know if the person is there or not, we just wait for a reply. Hangouts is and will be the same as that, specially since in the future it will have actual SMS integration.

    My guess is, if the person doesn't have hangouts (which all Android devices natively will) and we sent an SMS through hangouts, the person will receive it through their stock SMS app.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwiitch View Post

    Lid box mean the person is a active within the hangouts app, grayed means the person is idle.
    I don't think this is correct. Grayed means the person is offline. As you say people who have android phones are online almost 24/7.

    But you can be online and idle, for example when your screen is off. The hangouts android app doesn't give you that information anymore. But the Web version does, in the form of a green underlining of the profile picture of the contacts who are active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysbg View Post
    I don't think this is correct. Grayed means the person is offline. As you say people who have android phones are online almost 24/7.

    But you can be online and idle, for example when your screen is off. The hangouts android app doesn't give you that information anymore. But the Web version does, in the form of a green underlining of the profile picture of the contacts who are active.

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    I tested it with my wife's phone and mine. Opened both hangouts, both squares went solid lid. I backed out of hangouts in one phone (still remained online) and the box grayed out.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3
  11. #36  

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    It seems we are talking about different profile pictures! You are talking about the one inside the hangout, whereas I was talking about the one of the contact list. So with your method you can know the status of someone who you have already interacted with, which is good to know. It's still not possible to know if someone is idle or not by looking at the contact list only, like you can do on the web version.
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwiitch View Post
    I tested it with my wife's phone and mine. Opened both hangouts, both squares went solid lid. I backed out of hangouts in one phone (still remained online) and the box grayed out.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3
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    And even then. One of my friend has the green underlining bar in the web version but his picture in our hangout is grayed out.
  13. #38  

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2defmouze View Post
    As a general note to everyone: a lot of valid complaints about the lackluster features and lacking functionality or Hangouts, imperfections, etc, but here's the thing about Google I've noticed over the last 2 years being an Android enthusiast..

    ....The guys at Google get excited about their new innovations as much as we do and they don't mind giving us almost "beta" versions of them to play with.......
    We are beta testers, who better to than the people will be using them. And tbh Google will have the biggest results, assuming all 900m of us Android lovers will get the app updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2defmouze View Post
    As a general note to everyone: a lot of valid complaints about the lackluster features and lacking functionality or Hangouts, imperfections, etc, but here's the thing about Google I've noticed over the last 2 years being an Android enthusiast..

    Google innovates and comes up with new ideas, apps, and features. Much more and better than Apple or any of the other competitors. And they will often introduce their new stuff when it's not quite perfected yet. Most of us have seen that with new Android versions and other new Google apps; when the new things are first given to us there are always these same complaints but if you fast forward a bit they almost always turn into great things. The guys at Google get excited about their new innovations as much as we do and they don't mind giving us almost "beta" versions of them to play with. Contrast that with Apple for example, who will take much longer to introduce something new, but generally when they do its a better initial experience than it is with Google's new thing (let's leave out their uncharacteristic Apple Maps fiasco for the sake of this point). It was like this with Google Drive at first, Google+, many new major Android versions, etc etc..

    I love and much prefer Google's way, and that's why I've learned to not go crazy when the new experiments seem underwhelming at first. I understand and love the process and look forward to seeing where it all goes, which is almost always somewhere awesome.

    So hangouts will have some time and I am very optimistic that this new idea has the potential to become something very very useful in due time, which we'll all grow to love soon enough.

    I'm also a few beers deep, hence the long ramble. Happy Friday everyone :beer:


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    thank you for explaining to people who complain. I have had similar experience with google.
    they always update and improve. so many features that people complained about drive and books are now on those apps.
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    From what I can see, there is no way to tell if someone is active or available on the phone. All my icons look same no matter what. I don't use Google+, nor any of my contacts, so that may be a factor. I just did a video call with my wife and it worked great. At first she wasn't sure how to answer it, since that isn't clear on the screen. My only problem is we have to do it wifi since freaking AT&T has video calls blocked on their network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandezhjr View Post
    From what I can see, there is no way to tell if someone is active or available on the phone. All my icons look same no matter what. I don't use Google+, nor any of my contacts, so that may be a factor. I just did a video call with my wife and it worked great. At first she wasn't sure how to answer it, since that isn't clear on the screen. My only problem is we have to do it wifi since freaking AT&T has video calls blocked on their network.
    You don't need to know if someone is online or not...if they have Hangouts (which most likely they do if they have Android) u just message them like if u were to via SMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabbott View Post
    If they integrate SMS there would be no way to tell if that person was online.

    The two most requested things, ability to see when someone is available and SMS integration can't work together.
    I don't understand this. When I had the galaxy s, the contacts folder allowed me to see if the person was logged into Google so I could see whether or not they were available for video chat. I need to know, so that I don't wake up my husband while he's away on a trip and working strange hours, or my friends in Cali, when I forgot it is only 6am there and 9 here. Just because Facebook can't make it work, doesn't mean Google can't figure it out. Google has far too many messaging apps as it stands right now anyway. That's what they need to integrate. Quit wasting space with gtalk and g+ chat apps and unify that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwiitch View Post
    You don't need to know if someone is online or not...if they have Hangouts (which most likely they do if they have Android) u just message them like if u were to via SMS.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3
    That blows. With Talk, it was nice to know if someone was online or not. This way, you know if you are going to get an immediate reply or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandezhjr View Post
    That blows. With Talk, it was nice to know if someone was online or not. This way, you know if you are going to get an immediate reply or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by sos710m View Post
    I don't understand this. When I had the galaxy s, the contacts folder allowed me to see if the person was logged into Google so I could see whether or not they were available for video chat. I need to know, so that I don't wake up my husband while he's away on a trip and working strange hours, or my friends in Cali, when I forgot it is only 6am there and 9 here. Just because Facebook can't make it work, doesn't mean Google can't figure it out. Google has far too many messaging apps as it stands right now anyway. That's what they need to integrate. Quit wasting space with gtalk and g+ chat apps and unify that.
    If he/she is online it doesn't mean they would answer either lol.

    As far as video calling, message the person then after a reply u video call if ur worry is to interrupt someone on X thing that they might be doing.

    Man ppl complain too much......and make excuses lol. Tooooo bad Cus I'm really enjoying Hangouts as is. Can't wait for SMS.

    Sent from my Galaxy S3
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    For me it's not as much as knowing that someone will answer immediately, but making sure that I don't bother that person - for example if it's early in the morning, idle status might indicate that the person is still sleeping. But well, I'll adapt to the new information given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandezhjr View Post
    That blows. With Talk, it was nice to know if someone was online or not. This way, you know if you are going to get an immediate reply or not.
    if the contact is grayed out, offline else online

    on web its a green line under contacts
  22. #47  

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    Hangouts stopped working about 30 minutes ago....I thought I messed a setting up because i wasnt receiving any messages....and in fact is that it's getting updates rolled out tonight. I uninstalled it and went back to install it and it showed that both SMS and MMS integration is now (will be part of it, see attached pic). Guess it's here! Now just to pass this hiccup It's having 'cus its not working at all till that gets done! :thumbup:


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    is there a way to hide phonebook/facebook contacts that aren't already using Hangouts ?? i'm really not into that long list of people to "invite" lol

    also the second screen with contact photos and stuff.... i wish it looked more simple like one page and i can just add as i type and then just a second screen showing active conversations

    feels a little cluttered right now
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