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    Quote Originally Posted by JonK View Post
    Thanks for the input. Yes, it seems ATT will refuse to provide an unlock code until your contract is up but there seem to be services that will charge a fee and get your unlock code from apple.
    But now you're getting into shadier territory
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBeit View Post
    I have thought if doing this before. I don't think ATT really cares. Think about it like this:

    ETF: $325
    subsidized iPhone 5s $199.99
    AT&T monthly service: Approx. $80/mo

    If you bought the iphone 5s and kept it though the contract, AT&T would get $199.99 + $80*24 = 2119.99

    When you buy the iphone, sell it to someone else (who is locked to AT&T), and pay your ETF, AT&T would get:
    $199.99 + $325 + $80*24 = $2444.99.

    Technically, AT&T MAY be losing a sale on an iPhone 5s to a particular customer (but probably not). And I doubt they care since your ETF was more than the subsidized cost of the iphone 5s anyway. So, let's just say you ARE causing AT&T to lose out on an iPhone 5s sale. They are still going to make:
    $199.99 + $325 + $80*24 - $199.99 = $2245

    Which is $125 more than they would have made had you just let your contract end (and the other customer went in and bought a subsidized 5s from the ATT store).

    Your net profit is going to be something like:
    $750-($199+$325) = $226, and that's neglecting tax and whatever fees AT&T makes you pay when you re-up (and possibly ebay fees depending on how you sell your 5s). So you have to decide if it's worth it. You're probably only going to net around $150ish. I might pay that much just so I don't have to walk into an AT&T store in the first place

    In the end, both you and AT&T come out ahead right around $125. So, it's sort of a win-win. Except that you're helping AT&T make a profit and you're also taking all the risk....
    Well you are assuming I will pay the EFT.. I am going to continue with ATT service for the two years. My profit is more like $450 (retail price of phone which I am likely to sell it for - subsidized cost I paid) minus selling fees ect. If you pay the ETF the best you do is break even after taxes/activation fees/ebay selling fees ect. It is only worth it if you intend to stay on contract.
  3. Thread Author  Thread Author    #28  

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBeit View Post
    But now you're getting into shadier territory
    Well, that is the buyer's problem to worry about . Just be an honest seller and say the phone is locked to ATT. The buyer can do with it what they will..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonK View Post
    Well you are assuming I will pay the EFT.. I am going to continue with ATT service for the two years. My profit is more like $450 (retail price of phone which I am likely to sell it for - subsidized cost I paid) minus selling fees ect. If you pay the ETF the best you do is break even after taxes/activation fees/ebay selling fees ect. It is only worth it if you intend to stay on contract.
    Ah, I see. I missed that part. Yeah, you really can't go wrong.
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    by paying AT&T $80/month for 2 years on contract you are subsidizing the iPhone upgrade by at least $20/month.

    $20 x 24 months = $480
    + $199.99 =
    $679.99 Total Paid over 24 Months for iPhone

    are you really going to sell the iPhone for more than $680 less selling costs? enough to make it worth the hassle and risks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    by paying AT&T $80/month for 2 years on contract you are subsidizing the iPhone upgrade by at least $20/month.

    $20 x 24 months = $480
    + $199.99 =
    $679.99 Total Paid over 24 Months for iPhone

    are you really going to sell the iPhone for more than $680 less selling costs? enough to make it worth the hassle and risks?
    I think in his case he has already decided he's sticking with att no matter which phone he has. In that case, he might as well upgrade and sell. If he buys a nexus 4, he's not taking advantage of the subsidy he's already paying for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBeit View Post
    I think in his case he has already decided he's sticking with att no matter which phone he has. In that case, he might as well upgrade and sell. If he buys a nexus 4, he's not taking advantage of the subsidy he's already paying for.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    Exactly. Gekko, I will paying ATT $70/mo (400 minutes + 3GB; I dont pay for text, remember not $80. By saying that I am subsidizing the iphone by $20, that assumes I could be getting the same service for $20 cheaper somewhere else. Name another plan that meets the following criteria:

    -Wide spread LTE coverage (eliminates Tmo and sprint and any MVNO on those networks)
    -Will support nexus 5 (eliminates VZW)
    -Allows roaming and will never throttle my data speed (eliminates any MVNO)

    The two options I am left with are ATT post paid or ATT gophone. Both will cost $70/month with 3GB of data. If I am going to pay $70/mo anyway I might as well sign a contract and collect my signing bonus.

    And as an update, I bought the iThing at $300 and sold it for $765. I had to go ahead and sign up before the individual plans were gone. I left the iphone sealed and walked into an ATT store to get a microsim for free. The sim is waiting on my desk for a nexus 5 to be put in.
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    I have been with at&t since the days of McCaw Cellular (circa 1987) and been month to month since 2000 and never looked back.

    Last year I picked up the Nexus 4 and had been enjoying it for a few months when I had to call in about another line on the account which was having issues.

    The agent noticed I was able to upgrade and offered me a new phone at the subsidized cost. I declined explaining that I had just purchased the Nexus 4 outright and had no interest in getting another new phone. The agent countered that I could get a free phone and just sell it, which while true is more effort than I care to put in.

    She then offered something that appealed even more, a bill credit. Eventually after some bargaining back and forth we settled on $240 and I signed for two years.

    So a bill credit might be an option.

    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1431 View Post
    I have been with at&t since the days of McCaw Cellular (circa 1987) and been month to month since 2000 and never looked back.

    Last year I picked up the Nexus 4 and had been enjoying it for a few months when I had to call in about another line on the account which was having issues.

    The agent noticed I was able to upgrade and offered me a new phone at the subsidized cost. I declined explaining that I had just purchased the Nexus 4 outright and had no interest in getting another new phone. The agent countered that I could get a free phone and just sell it, which while true is more effort than I care to put in.

    She then offered something that appealed even more, a bill credit. Eventually after some bargaining back and forth we settled on $240 and I signed for two years.

    So a bill credit might be an option.

    Dan

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    Wow that is very cool. Thanks for the comments. That right there is good customer service. That is effectively what I am trying to get. That is nice that they saved you the hassle of going through ebay and what not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1431 View Post
    I have been with at&t since the days of McCaw Cellular (circa 1987) and been month to month since 2000 and never looked back.

    Last year I picked up the Nexus 4 and had been enjoying it for a few months when I had to call in about another line on the account which was having issues.

    The agent noticed I was able to upgrade and offered me a new phone at the subsidized cost. I declined explaining that I had just purchased the Nexus 4 outright and had no interest in getting another new phone. The agent countered that I could get a free phone and just sell it, which while true is more effort than I care to put in.

    She then offered something that appealed even more, a bill credit. Eventually after some bargaining back and forth we settled on $240 and I signed for two years.

    So a bill credit might be an option.

    Dan

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    $240? and there's my magical $20/month x 24 months i came up with in my previous post. $240 was a fair deal for all involved IMO based on my calculations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    $240? and there's my magical $20/month x 24 months i came up with in my previous post. $240 was a fair deal for all involved IMO based on my calculations.
    Isn't $240 $10/month in his case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudoware View Post
    Isn't $240 $10/month in his case?

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    I stand corrected!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonK View Post
    The two options I am left with are ATT post paid or ATT gophone. Both will cost $70/month with 3GB of data. If I am going to pay $70/mo anyway I might as well sign a contract and collect my signing bonus.
    But again, remember that you're not just paying $70/month with AT&T postpaid. You will be paying taxes that you wouldn't otherwise be paying with AT&T GoPhone. It's more something like ~$85/month with AT&T versus $70/month with GoPhone. So if you're really looking to save every bit you can...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    But again, remember that you're not just paying $70/month with AT&T postpaid. You will be paying taxes that you wouldn't otherwise be paying with AT&T GoPhone. It's more something like ~$85/month with AT&T versus $70/month with GoPhone. So if you're really looking to save every bit you can...
    Ah, I did not take that into account. This made me go back and take a good look at gophone. Unfortunately I was wrong, there is no roaming with gophone. This may not be a factor for most but I have to consider this because I travel a lot.

    ATT post paid (if you started service before they zapped the individual plans):
    32GB iphone 5s: $299
    Activation: $36
    Sale of iphone: +$760
    Ebay selling fees: $70
    24 months of service (24*85): $2040
    Total: $1685 (+cost of nexus 5)
    Advantage: Better coverage with roaming

    ATT GoPhone:
    Activation: $?
    24 months of service (24*70): $1680
    Total: $1680 (+cost of nexus 5)
    Advantage: No hassle with ebay, unlimited text and minutes (not an advantage for me but might be for some)

    Still happy with my choice. Lots of great options here that might work better for some though depending on your needs. Thanks for all the input!
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    Since I pay approximately $90 a month including a discount through my employer for unlimited voice / messaging / DATA that $240 bill credit is effectively another $10 a month discount bringing me in line with what I would pay T-Mobile for the same amount of services all be it with a smaller coverage area.

    As I saw it, it was a win win for me.

    Dan

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    Yep. If the nexus 5 is not available on contract. (Any thoughts on this?) Then im going to upgrade to an iphone and sell it on ebay for a pretty penny. Then buy that nexus 5.
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    GoPhone sounds like a great deal. So when you refill a Gophone account with a $100 refill on the $60/month plan, the remainder is credited to your account??
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    I'm really looking forward to Nexus 5 + Sprint Sero @ $50/month, being that Orlando has fantastic coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videoman87 View Post
    GoPhone sounds like a great deal. So when you refill a Gophone account with a $100 refill on the $60/month plan, the remainder is credited to your account??
    The remaining $40 stays on your account for a future month. Another way to save money on GoPhone is to purchase refill cards online for a discount. I've purchased from 'Bonanza' and the current rate on a $65 refill card is $55.95. No tax and no shipping. They will typically email you a code within a few hours of purchase.
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    I use T-Mobile postpaid. Both my university and work are well-covered by the network.
    Unlimited everything (minutes, texting, and LTE) for $80/month.

    (2.5GB of data instead of Unlimited on the same plan would be $70/month)

    Have been considering a switch to the $30/month prepaid plan, though.
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    Awesome, thanks for clarifying. I'm debating between MetroPCS (40/month) and GoPhone (60/month..less with discounted refills). GoPhone sounds like a solid deal, although it's quite possible that ATT throttles data for gophone during peak hours in big cities.
    Quote Originally Posted by grooks View Post
    The remaining $40 stays on your account for a future month. Another way to save money on GoPhone is to purchase refill cards online for a discount. I've purchased from 'Bonanza' and the current rate on a $65 refill card is $55.95. No tax and no shipping. They will typically email you a code within a few hours of purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videoman87 View Post
    Awesome, thanks for clarifying. I'm debating between MetroPCS (40/month) and GoPhone (60/month..less with discounted refills). GoPhone sounds like a solid deal, although it's quite possible that ATT throttles data for gophone during peak hours in big cities.
    Why not consider Straight Talk? Better deal than GoPhone imo with $45 for 2.5GB of LTE and then slowed to edge after that.
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    In case you guys didn't see in the T-Mobile forum, the prepaid SIM cards are being offered for $0.00 and free shipping right now online.

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