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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by Rule9 View Post
    Not seeing it here, I loaded about 20 3rd party apps on my phone after reading this and every single one of them opened instantly and I'm on 4.2

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    I believe it's for devices running KitKat only

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    It is, what I'm saying is that my apps load instantly, as it, at least on my phone anyway. I don't know of anything faster than instant. I opened a bunch of them in succession too. Maybe Sony pimped their software I guess. Gotta love Japanese engineering

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    I just switched over.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by Rule9 View Post
    It is, what I'm saying is that my apps load instantly, as it, at least on my phone anyway. I don't know of anything faster than instant. I opened a bunch of them in succession too. Maybe Sony pimped their software I guess. Gotta love Japanese engineering
    A lot of people are confused as to what we mean by "instant" I think.

    We are not talking about the screen changing immediately. My phone did that before ART too. We mean the time it takes for the app to fully load, where you can completely see all content and use it. THAT is definitely much faster on ART.

    I've used Galaxy phones and the One and Sony's phones... I've never seen any remotely this fast. On my phone it was a dramatic difference and it was already pretty fast before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    no thanks. i'm sure the Gremlins will appear soon. but thanks for being our guinea pig. please report back later. enjoy.
    Haven't seen any in 5 days and over 200 apps.

    Must remove some apps (accidentally allowed Google to restore them all) but this excessive number doesn't appear to have diminished the phone's appetite for sheer speed and sharp responses.

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDenver View Post
    I assume it will let you convert back too. I am still seeing the Dalvik setting in developer options.
    All it takes is select dalvik and restart when prompted, and the dalvik cache setup is recreated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greydarrah View Post
    It would be interesting to see Quadrant scores before and after enabling ART. I know a lot of trash gets thrown at benchmarks, but I think they have relevance when comparing a change you make on your own phone as opposed to using them to compare your phone to others.
    Not until the particular benchmark app has been optimised for Art and 4. 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDenver View Post
    My benchmark scores have not really changed. I ran Antutu and 3D mark.
    Yes, but none of the benchmarking apps will be optimised for Art or 4.4 yet.

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDenver View Post
    A lot of people are confused as to what we mean by "instant" I think.

    We are not talking about the screen changing immediately. My phone did that before ART too. We mean the time it takes for the app to fully load, where you can completely see all content and use it. THAT is definitely much faster on ART.

    I've used Galaxy phones and the One and Sony's phones... I've never seen any remotely this fast. On my phone it was a dramatic difference and it was already pretty fast before.
    Thanks for clearing that up, that explains it much better. That's pretty good news for the future of Android, I've often heard the dalvik runtime mentioned in tech circles as something in need of change. Hopefully a lot of people report back on this so any tweaks that need to be made are taken care of before kitkat rolls out to other devices. I'll be keeping an eye on how it works on my N7. I also kept my N4 and a couple older phones so it'll be interesting to see how they live up to claims made about those running 4.4

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Check out Android Central talking about ART and Dalvik that starts at the 28:45 Mark...

    Jerry thinks all people are seeing is cached performance after ART cleared out the old cache that will slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yfan View Post
    Google's apps are definitely snappier in ART. Other apps have a faster start time, but operations-wise, I'm not sure since the Nexus 5 is an incredibly fast device as is. But it also makes Vonage crash, as well as another VoIP app I have.

    All in all, I'm going to keep this for a while at least.

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    I wouldn't expect there to be any change in app performance once the app is loaded. As I understand this issue the only difference between these two methods is when the app is compiled. To date the way Android worked was the app was compiled just in time as the app opened. With this new method, the apps are precompiled so that it is not necessary to compile it at startup. Once the app is open, I don't see how there would be any change in speed.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by Shilohcane View Post
    Check out Android Central talking about ART and Dalvik that starts at the 28:45 Mark...

    Jerry thinks all people are seeing is cached performance after ART cleared out the old cache that will slow down.

    This could very well be! Art is not ready for prime time, but it is nice to run. My notifications are broke on some apps with art.

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    How about ART with the custom recoveries? Will nandroids and wiping cache work the same?
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    So in your opinion for a user how is not an Android power user but is an advanced user they should or shouldnt stay away from ART.

    It seems to make my N5 run faster and I'm hearing rumors of big battery savings.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by m3lover1 View Post
    How about ART with the custom recoveries? Will nandroids and wiping cache work the same?
    You should not be using ART unless you are completely stock IMO.
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    I'm sticking with Dalvik at this point unless the Battery is better under ART. ART is the future when the bugs are gone and it is optimized for speed since it "Ahead Of Time (AOT)" is better than "Just In Time (JIT)".

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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by Shilohcane View Post
    I'm sticking with Dalvik at this point unless the Battery is better under ART. ART is the future when the bugs are gone and it is optimized for speed since it "Ahead Of Time (AOT)" is better than "Just In Time (JIT)".

    The ART phone actually seemed faster at the end.

    Again, my evidence is anecdotal, but browser performance for me was better under ART. I use Firefox as my primary though, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
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    It'll be interesting what kind of impact this will have on the battery. Better, worse? People predict better, but has there been any conclusive?
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    Is there a thread or should there be that we can note specific downsides to switching to ART? Broken apps, crashes, etc?
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    I'm waiting for Whatsapp to be updated so that it doesn't crash anymore on ART. I used ART the first day or so and had no issues other than Whatsapp.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by jalan94 View Post
    Is there a thread or should there be that we can note specific downsides to switching to ART? Broken apps, crashes, etc?
    There is already a thread for apps. I have not heard of anyone crashing...one guy said his phone would no longer charge after converting to ART.

    Quote Originally Posted by mzanette View Post
    I'm waiting for Whatsapp to be updated so that it doesn't crash anymore on ART. I used ART the first day or so and had no issues other than Whatsapp.
    I did not even get to the point where it would crash...it would not even install. The installer errored out after download.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    I switched to ART yesterday. I don't have any way to know if the apps are running faster and of course I don't have any performance tools, but what I see visually is that it is the operating system that is performing its tasks a bit faster.

    Maybe placebo.... But maybe.....

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    My Nexus 5 battery life has been crap to the point I almost turned it in for a moto x. Phone was usually dead by 6 pm. I switched it to ART based on a recommendation by a person on phandroid and holy crap what a difference. I think I am seeing a 40 percent increase in battery life.
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    Wow. I didnt think this phone could possibly get faster. ART is awesome. Storing native code is a no brainer for performance and battery life. Doing JIT compilation all the time is a waste of resources. Google maps on my N5 is now faster than on my 3ghz core i7 PC.
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    Default Re: Just...WOW...massive speed increase using ART cache

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDenver View Post
    You should not be using ART unless you are completely stock IMO.
    This should be repeated.

    Once you start going custom you get into an area where bootloops can occur more often than not. I am currently using it as for me, its too early in the game to look at custom roms etc.
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