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    Default Does Google selling Motorola threaten the Nexus line?

    With Google's sale of Motorola, does that perhaps point to its exiting hardware business and the Nexus line?
    Truly hope this doesn't threaten Google's Nexus efforts.
    If so I'll be taking a step I prefer not to take - - going to the new iPhone 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsman787 View Post
    With Google's sale of Motorola, does that perhaps point to its exiting hardware business and the Nexus line?
    Truly hope this doesn't threaten Google's Nexus efforts.
    If so I'll be taking a step I prefer not to take - - going to the new iPhone 6.

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    There are rumors of the Nexus line ending in favor of GPEs.

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    I think the samsung and google patent deal had something to do with this, especially now with the rumors that samsung is toning back touchwiz. I bet google was like we will sell moto if you tone it back and come back closer to android. With how many devices samsung sells, this is a smart move for google, especially with moto losing money every quarter where as samsung is making a killing.
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    Default re: Does Google selling Motorola threaten the Nexus line?

    Quote Originally Posted by Premium1 View Post
    I think the samsung and google patent deal had something to do with this, especially now with the rumors that samsung is toning back touchwiz. I bet google was like we will sell moto if you tone it back and come back closer to android. With how many devices samsung sells, this is a smart move for google, especially with moto losing money every quarter where as samsung is making a killing.
    That's my gut feeling as well.
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    With Motorola, Nexus was probably heading the way of hte DoDo. But in my opinion selling Moto gives Nexus a bit more hope to stay around for a while.

    I really do not want to see the Nexus line go, but I guess only time will tell.
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    I'd like to see the Nexus continue if only because it's one of the only phones that you can use on Sprint and other carriers, and Sprint (and Verizon) miss out on many of the Play Edition phones because of CDMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    I'd like to see the Nexus continue if only because it's one of the only phones that you can use on Sprint and other carriers, and Sprint (and Verizon) miss out on many of the Play Edition phones because of CDMA.
    Who's to say expanding GPe doesn't lead to more CDMA (Sprint) support?
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    I don't think it will affect the Nexus products since LG makes the N4 & N5 phones and the Nexus tablets ASUS N7 and Samsung N10. Google needs the Nexus to roll out Android and shake out the bugs before the other mobility manufactures start their roll out. Apple only has one phone in plastic or metal case sure one has 64 bit CPU they designed. Their tablets are all the similar CPU that are in their phones that Apple designs. It is a lot easier for Apple to shake out ios bugs with their closed garden product line than it is for Google with about 40 mobility Android manufactures in a open product market that serves the ultra low cost to high cost Android devices.

    The Nexus line getting the newest Android release benefits Samsung and other Android manufactures. Already one out of three smart phones sold is a Samsung so why would they be sweating Nexus as long as it isn't mainstream. Google has already said they have something in the works with Samsung in the near future. With over 80% of the smartphones in the world running Android the Nexus line has only helped keep the software rolling out faster and better to take the lead from the evil fruit company that is still making all the money.
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    When Google bought Motorola the story was that they were mainly after certain patents. And apparently they kept most of the important ones -- according to various reports I've read.

    One reason for this sale is that Google will no longer appear to be a direct hardware competitor to its partners in the Android program. When they make a Nexus product they team up with a hardware manufacturer -- not actually make the product. So I'm optimistic about the future of the Nexus program.

    I'm hoping that Lenovo will be willing to invest long-term and do something good (like selling unlocked phones at a competitive price) with Moto.
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    I hope not.

    IMO the GPE devices while a very cool idea are NOT a replacement for the Nexus.

    Reasons:
    -the hardware of GPe devices was often designed without stock android in mind. Many don't have software buttons and for me that is important to the over all android experience.
    -I like knowing that I own a device which is being targeted first for support by both google and software developers. Several google play edition devices will not provide the same single target for development as the Nexus devices have.
    -I buy my phones unlocked and carrier free and the Nexus program has been a very good way to get great hardware while still remaining off contract and not killing my bank account.

    My Nexus 5 is currently in transit and I hope that it will last me at least 2 years. But if after those 2 years are up there is no Nexus-like device (100% support from google in both hardware and software) then I will likely take a close look at my other mobile OS options. I have an iPad Air now. iOS is certainly not my preferred operating system but I could probably live with it on a phone if I had to...(Please Google don't let this happen!)
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    Default re: Does Google selling Motorola threaten the Nexus line?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturn1217 View Post
    -the hardware of GPe devices was often designed without stock android in mind. Many don't have software buttons and for me that is important to the over all android experience.
    -I like knowing that I own a device which is being targeted first for support by both google and software developers. Several google play edition devices will not provide the same single target for development as the Nexus devices have.
    But Android is open and everyone is free to do what they want with it.

    And one could argue software developers don't target the latest version since that's not where the marketshare is.
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    But Android is open and everyone is free to do what they want with it.

    And one could argue software developers don't target the latest version since that's not where the marketshare is.
    Appreciate this perspective though I believe fragmentation in the Android ecosystem is a real negative. Getting latest software is essential to me. Without it I will go elsewhere. The loss of one consumer may be no big deal but then it again it will be a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsman787 View Post
    With Google's sale of Motorola, does that perhaps point to its exiting hardware business and the Nexus line?
    Truly hope this doesn't threaten Google's Nexus efforts.
    If so I'll be taking a step I prefer not to take - - going to the new iPhone 6.

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    I don't really think one has anything to do with the other. The Nexus line (made by several manufacturers) is a way for Google to get pure Android devices out there with good specs at reasonable prices. I don't see that changing. Motorola was not selling similar devices at equivalent prices. I think the sale happened for 2 reasons. 1.) Google wanted to maintain good relations with other manufacturers (especially Samsung) instead of competing with them. 2.) Google sold Motorola and 2000+ patents, but I am sure they retained the rights to use those patents freely. Rumors from some Russian blogger about the demise of the Nexus line are purely speculative at this time. And I would not be surprised if this recent sale was somehow related to recent agreements between Google and Samsung to keep the joint devices a little purer.
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    Default re: Does Google selling Motorola threaten the Nexus line?

    Quote Originally Posted by newsman787 View Post
    Appreciate this perspective though I believe fragmentation in the Android ecosystem is a real negative. Getting latest software is essential to me. Without it I will go elsewhere. The loss of one consumer may be no big deal but then it again it will be a loss.

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    With an open system, fragmentation will always exist.
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    Google's Nexus smartphones is not a threat to Samsung sales. Shaking out bugs with the Nexus line even saves Samsung money. LG not Google makes the Nexus 5 and Samsung has made a Nexus phone in the past and could again in the future. Last year, one out of every three smartphones on the planet -- not just Android -- came from Samsung, and more than half of Samsung's revenue in 2013 came from its mobile devices. The vast majority of those products used Google's operating system.


    Samsung captured 32.3 percent of the global smartphone market last year by shipping 319.8 million smartphones, more than twice the 15.5 percent market share held by No. 2 Apple during the same period. Apple grew a sluggish 13 percent annually and shipped 153.4 million smartphones worldwide for 15 percent market share in 2013, dipping from the 19 percent level recorded in 2012," Neil Mawston, an executive director at Strategy Analytics, said in a statement. "Apple remains strong in the high-end smartphone segment, but a lack of presence in the low-end category is costing it lost volumes in fast-growing emerging markets such as India."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    Who's to say expanding GPe doesn't lead to more CDMA (Sprint) support?
    So far, of the 2, none of them work on Sprint. Sadly, I don't expect many due to Qualcomm's CDMA pattents.
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    I love android and owned the galaxy nexus, nexus 4, and now the 5. If they ditch the nexus program I'm out. I can never go back to skins and late updates. Things are looking a bit gloomy right now. Only to.e will tell. But only around what like 5% of people use nexus phones so what does it matter. Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    So far, of the 2, none of them work on Sprint. Sadly, I don't expect many due to Qualcomm's CDMA pattents.
    If the Nexus 5 can do it, a GPe could do it to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    If the Nexus 5 can do it, a GPe could do it to.
    It would need to be a phone manufactured to have both CDMA and GSM antenas, which I was surprised the N5 has. Most phones don't to save costs.

    Untill I see one, I'll continue to be skeptical
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    Maybe this is why Google sold Moto that lost over a billion but they made money off the Nexus.


    Google has released their Q4 2013 earnings, coming up a little shy of expectations but still delivering huge profits due in part to Google Play Store sales, Chromecast and the Nexus 5. This marks the first time in Google’s history that the company’s revenue hasn’t been driven by advertising alone, with hardware and Android apps pulling in massive revenue.

    As expected, Motorola did attribute to Google’s losses in Q4 2013. Moto’s losses for Q4 were $384 million. Total Motorola losses in 2013 add up to $1.113 billion.
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    Don't know if selling Moto would threaten the Nexus, however rumours are going around that Google may be killing off the Nexus line and just offer GPE of phones.

    That would be fine with me except that they don't release those things outside of America.....so people who don't live in the US like me get screwed over....
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    I don't think the Nexus line is leaving anytime soon. I think that with Motorola being away from Google now, Google can focus on their Nexus devices.I would like to see Google kick off their Nexus devices like crazy during 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slik6996 View Post
    I love android and owned the galaxy nexus, nexus 4, and now the 5. If they ditch the nexus program I'm out. I can never go back to skins and late updates. Things are looking a bit gloomy right now. Only to.e will tell. But only around what like 5% of people use nexus phones so what does it matter. Haha
    I completely agree with everything in your post. If Google moves forward with expanding the GPe program, I'll definitely stay with Android. Before getting the Nexus 5, I had a Galaxy S4 GPe (now used by my wife) and it received updates just about as fast as the Nexus line.
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    Droid Life, which hates unsubstantiated rumors, is pointing to the fact that Google May Give up the nexus line all together by 2015. I read this on quite a few sites as rumors and those sites weren't as credible either.

    So it seems the whole Samsung/ Google Cooperation agreement stands around Samsung giving up their own mobile os called Tizen and their services that directly compete with Google play and Google services in return for Google to give up all mobile hardware that is in direct competition to Samsung, except for nest and the small research group formed under motorola , i forget the name. Also samsung and Google will cooperate with patents and software with each other, which means some TW could make it to AOSP, and that Samsung will scale back TW from being so over bloated.

    Google worried that if Samsung left the ecosystem of Android would do a lot of harm to Android and it's partners that are barely skating by in the mobile markets. And all the ad revenue Google receives from Android as well. Google is first and foremost an Advertiser and receives most of their money from it.

    Also with the new Patent war of Rockstar Consortium, it also serves Samsung and Google to combine their patents in a preventative measure from the patent trolling that is about to start. Sooner or later Rockstar will come after Samsung. It's just too bad our congress never passed the patent bill, or anything last year because of the Republicans obstruct everything plan which lead to set a record of Congress least active year ever in the history of the US. I thinks it wrong for a company that makes nothing to be able to purchase patents just to sue everyone for licensing fees. There should be a use it or lose it patent system. But we all know how broken the system is.

    I just hate the fact that such a Historical American company like Motorola has been sold off to China. Motorola who created innovative mobile radios for our troops in WW2 to Vietnam, and created the first Cellular calls and phones, to be just thrown away like a Turkey carcass to be picked over for what ever meat left on the bone. I really thought Google was going to raise them upright and start a new trend of bring real jobs back to america and set an example. Now all those in Texas who just got their good jobs will probably lose them by the end of the year because Chinese slaves that will work for $1 an hour are cheaper than paying American wages. Too bad Google couldn't try to protect those jobs at least for 2-3 years at the minimum.
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    Owning Motorola was awkward for Google, they had to bend over backwards to prove to their Android licensees that they weren't favouring Motorola over the other manufacturers as a result Motorola was never allowed to build a Nexus device and they were allowed to be very competitive. Google may have used the dumping of Motorola as a bargaining chip to get Samsung to back off of their aggressive forking of Android.

    One of the big problems in the Android world is the forking of Android by all of the manufactures which makes it impossible to update most devices in a timely manner or frequently to update them at all. The reason that they build Nexus devices is so that it's possible to buy a pure Android device that gets timely updates. If manufacturers stopped layering on their own crap we wouldn't need Nexus devices. It looks like Google is finally addressing the forking issue. They have moved to a model where the innovations are mostly in the apps and in the cloud which is where the belong and away from tying everything to the OS. They also seem to be working to convince the manufacturers to offer cleaner versions of Android. The rumor is that in 2015 they will move to GooglePlay only systems and drop Nexus altogether. Assuming that they can make the GooglePlay model work, i.e. get enough manufacturers to offer clean versions of their products and assuming that they can get to a point where Android upgrades can roll out easily to all of the GooglePlay devices, then this will be fine. In theory this can work. I upgrade my Linux distros continuously on a lot of different machines without any problems so why can't you do the same with Android which is just another Linux distro?
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