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    Default Bye Nexus 5 :(

    I loved the phone but I found 2 issues with the phone that was a Deal breaker ( 1 was just because it is Stock android vs one optimized for T-mobile). My 2 main issues were no Wifi calling which is a must for me since I get no service in my house and no removable battery + poor battery life. I don't understand why LG decided to only put in a 2300 mah battery in there when the Galaxy s4 which is the same screen size has a 2600 Battery life and last a lot longer. I need a workhorse for a phone and this phone isn't it. Hopefully they Either have a removable battery or add a bigger battery in it.
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    So....what are you planning on replacing it with? Almost any device you replace it with will feel sluggish, in comparison to the Nexus 5.
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    Default Re: Bye Nexus 5 :(

    The upcoming VOIP calling using hangouts (rumored to be by June/July this year) should alleviate one concern. Battery life, well, not much can be done. If the N5 battery life is not enough for you, well, it is not enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Closingracer View Post
    I loved the phone but I found 2 issues with the phone that was a Deal breaker ( 1 was just because it is Stock android vs one optimized for T-mobile). My 2 main issues were no Wifi calling which is a must for me since I get no service in my house and no removable battery + poor battery life. I don't understand why LG decided to only put in a 2300 mah battery in there when the Galaxy s4 which is the same screen size has a 2600 Battery life and last a lot longer. I need a workhorse for a phone and this phone isn't it. Hopefully they Either have a removable battery or add a bigger battery in it.
    1) Why did you pick a cell service that gives you no coverage at home? That just seems strange to me. I specifically checked coverage for home, work, and the places I normally go before switching from Sprint to T-Mobile.
    2) You can get a signal booster that will amplify the outside signal (directionally) and repeat it for you inside. I know people that have done it (although it might not be cheap). https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10009
    4) The Nexus will work with AT&T and Sprint and others, so you COULD retain the phone and switch service.
    5) There is only a 13% difference in the battery sizes you are quoting- not a huge difference. And all the extra "gimmicks" on the Samsung will likely wipe that extra power away, anyway.
    6) You might have other power issues totally unrelated to the hardware (it could be a rogue app or setting, and that can happen on ANY phone). ((Of course, it could also be a weak cell signal sucking all your power... and that would remain with some other phone too on the same carrier))
    7) "Optimized" for T-Mobile means nothing. The only thing missing of any value is WiFi-calling (which is a shame, since there is probably no reason that can't be done with an addon app).
    8) Most of the flagship phones have a fixed battery.
    9) You could add a battery case if you need more juice between charges. And/or have an external battery for trips where there is no power.

    Not saying the Nexus 5 is right for you... just pointing out some stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crxssi View Post
    1) Why did you pick a cell service that gives you no coverage at home? That just seems strange to me. I specifically checked coverage for home, work, and the places I normally go before switching from Sprint to T-Mobile.
    2) You can get a signal booster that will amplify the outside signal (directionally) and repeat it for you inside. I know people that have done it (although it might not be cheap). https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10009
    4) The Nexus will work with AT&T and Sprint and others, so you COULD retain the phone and switch service.
    5) There is only a 13% difference in the battery sizes you are quoting- not a huge difference. And all the extra "gimmicks" on the Samsung will likely wipe that extra power away, anyway.
    6) You might have other power issues totally unrelated to the hardware (it could be a rogue app or setting, and that can happen on ANY phone). ((Of course, it could also be a weak cell signal sucking all your power... and that would remain with some other phone too on the same carrier))
    7) "Optimized" for T-Mobile means nothing. The only thing missing of any value is WiFi-calling (which is a shame, since there is probably no reason that can't be done with an addon app).
    8) Most of the flagship phones have a fixed battery.
    9) You could add a battery case if you need more juice between charges. And/or have an external battery for trips where there is no power.

    Not saying the Nexus 5 is right for you... just pointing out some stuff.
    I was on AT&T and while I liked it was to expensive and t-mobile is the cheapest carrier out of the big 4. I get service with t-mobile everywhere else I go.

    I have been a long time user of Samsung devices (s2, s3, s4) and happy with touch wiz and got the note 3. Even with all the "bloat" my s4 lasted a full day on a charge without having to baby the battery which is the reason why I got a note 3.

    I have a signal booster from t-mobile but as I said the battery life isn't there for me and I was never a fan of non removable batteries to begin with

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    You can't use something like GrooveIP?
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    I thought wifi calling would be an issue for me....And it is...Mainly because when i travel wifi calling is free...Either way i have my nexus and its taken me a while to get used to it. It still feels very chaotic compared to my Z/Q10 but hey android has always had a learning curve and thats something i need to do again. But listen the battery isnt small... you wont get a day and a half like with the Z30 but you will get your days worth if you arent constantly playing games that suck up unnecessary power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lui22 View Post
    I thought wifi calling would be an issue for me....And it is...Mainly because when i travel wifi calling is free...Either way i have my nexus and its taken me a while to get used to it. It still feels very chaotic compared to my Z/Q10 but hey android has always had a learning curve and thats something i need to do again. But listen the battery isnt small... you wont get a day and a half like with the Z30 but you will get your days worth if you arent constantly playing games that suck up unnecessary power.
    I don't play a lot of games ..why I own an ipad. Battery would last maybe 8-10 hours tops of light to medium usage compared to my s4 which would last a good 12-15 hours

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    Default Re: Bye Nexus 5 :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    You can't use something like GrooveIP?
    Doesn't that require a new number ? Anyways I like how t-mobile it is seamless

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    If you had ATT before and you were happy with the service, then try AIO. Slightly stubbed max data speeds. Or look into the ATT BYOD thing now it's $65 for 2gb of data and unlimited everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbad4life View Post
    If you had ATT before and you were happy with the service, then try AIO. Slightly stubbed max data speeds. Or look into the ATT BYOD thing now it's $65 for 2gb of data and unlimited everything else.
    Unlimited data is a must for me and high speed data which is why I went with t-mobile

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    That's too bad. It's true that if you need a real workhorse and can't recharge easily and frequently (e.g., throwing it on a Qi charger whenever you're not using it), the Nexus 5 isn't the best choice. I would guess that LG and Google went with the average battery because of cost/value issues--remember that the phone is pretty cheap considering its overall performance.

    You mentioned that you got the signal booster from T-Mobile--did that at least help with the poor home signal problem? I'm waiting for one I ordered from T-Mobile--I actually haven't had real problems with voice or data at home, but I usually only have 1-2 bars, with the signal being reported as -90 to -100, so I figured it was worth a try.
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    Default Re: Bye Nexus 5 :(

    The signal booster worked great and love it and while no wifi calling was a factor the battery life for me was a deal breaker.... I have the wireless charger and loved it since I got the nexus 1 and it locks onto the device. Since I am getting the note 3 flip cover might down the road get the one with wireless charging back flip cover if they give me a discount for it

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    Default Re: Bye Nexus 5 :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    You can't use something like GrooveIP?
    GrooveIP is expected to stop working in a couple of months when Google removes the XMPP interface
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    You can't use something like GrooveIP?
    Yep.... GrooveIP is a dead app walking... they have, about a month and a half left I think. Google is going to phase out the service it uses. Though, the flip side to that is that it might be that Google is just going to allow voice calls in Hangouts (using your Google Voice number).

    Not that it helps the OP now.... shame
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    I find battery life is an issue when you either haven't optimzed the phone as well as you could, or you're having signal issues. Easiest fix for signal issues is to turn it back to 3G when you don't need 4G (IE, when you're not actively using the phone or DLing stuff). If you idle a lot, ART helps a ton with battery life. Otherwise, reign in background stuff, which should help battery life..

    I can't solve the signal/wifi calling issue though. Seems strange to get a service where you have no home coverage though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    I find battery life is an issue when you either haven't optimzed the phone as well as you could, or you're having signal issues. Easiest fix for signal issues is to turn it back to 3G when you don't need 4G (IE, when you're not actively using the phone or DLing stuff). If you idle a lot, ART helps a ton with battery life. Otherwise, reign in background stuff, which should help battery life..

    I can't solve the signal/wifi calling issue though. Seems strange to get a service where you have no home coverage though.
    These are good suggestions as I always turn off location services when not needed. I find using a small battery pack makes battery life a non issue regardless of which phone I use, or how hard its used. Small cheap, and works with you next phone.

    I use the Seido at the hotels I stay at a couple times a week, wall charger/battery pack. http://www.shopandroid.com/seidio-ch...medium=content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    I find battery life is an issue when you either haven't optimzed the phone as well as you could, or you're having signal issues. Easiest fix for signal issues is to turn it back to 3G when you don't need 4G (IE, when you're not actively using the phone or DLing stuff). If you idle a lot, ART helps a ton with battery life. Otherwise, reign in background stuff, which should help battery life..

    I can't solve the signal/wifi calling issue though. Seems strange to get a service where you have no home coverage though.

    I personally want a phone that I don't have to do that... and the Note 3 does that for me. when I had the nexus 5 i had to turn on airplane mode during work just so i had around 40-50% of battery after work


    Might Buy the nexus 5 again later whenever there is a sale just to have a backup phone but I needed a workhorse for a phone as my daily driver
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj14x View Post
    The upcoming VOIP calling using hangouts (rumored to be by June/July this year) should alleviate one concern. Battery life, well, not much can be done. If the N5 battery life is not enough for you, well, it is not enough.
    We should be getting 4.4.3 Kit Kat any day now that has a few battery fixing updates in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Closingracer View Post
    I personally want a phone that I don't have to do that... and the Note 3 does that for me. when I had the nexus 5 i had to turn on airplane mode during work just so i had around 40-50% of battery after work
    Are you constantly doing stuff on it? Or is it stuff in the background?

    I get 2-3 days of use on a charge, depending on where I am and what I'm doing. I'm hot a heavy user by any means though. I often see 20-30% drain at work when I tend to use it most. Currently I'm at 53% of my charge with 1 day, 4 hours and 22 minutes off charger. Overnight I get 2-5% drainage with the phone radio on.

    Honestly, any phone runs better if you streamline your usage a bit. Your processor isn't doing as much, your battery lasts longer (which is good for the battery), and your phone is more likely to be ready for you to rock when you need it.

    Stuff I do:
    1) Turn on ART. HUGE Idle battery saver.
    2) Turn off "OK Google" responce. Huge battery drain.
    3) Leave it on 3G when not using the internet. Even with a good signal, 4G drains the battery more, and what's the point if you're not using it. (Note, this would be easier of someone made a widget that made it easy, so I understand not wanting to do it).
    4) Set the GPS to battery saving when not in use. For everything short of driving directions, that's good enough.
    5) Space out any automated data synchs. Do you really need a facebook and email update within minutes of it happening? Do you even need your email auto-synched at all? (I have them all set to on demand, which takes a whole 30-60 seconds extra load time to pull down, even on 3G).
    6) Turn off Google Now (I don't have it off, and I get amazing battery life out of the N5).
    7) Set screen brightness to auto. Screen is the biggest battery suck, only so much you can do here.
    8) Enable dark mode for any apps you can, and set your background to a non-live dark background. (Bright/lighter colors suck more battery. It's minor, but it does help).
    9) Install Greenify (if you have root), and let it suspend any apps you know you don't need and don't want to take over in the background (Many games can "stick" open and running).
    10) Use Wifi, have all your updates/backups that are automated happen on wifi only. Turn off Wifi (and BT) when not in use.

    Now, admittedly, your usage and mine might vary, but this is the longest I've ever had a smart phone battery last.

    With that setup, I can get 2 days (pull it off the charger 1 day, put it back on the next) of use on the phone with between 1-3 hours of screen time, and often 20-40% when I put it back on the charger.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    8) Enable dark mode for any apps you can, and set your background to a non-live dark background. (Bright/lighter colors suck more battery. It's minor, but it does help).
    All of your advice is valid except the above. On an LCD screen, it doesn't matter at all what is being displayed, only how bright the backlight is. Your advice *IS* valid on an OLED screen, but that is not what we are using (thank goodness). A live background, however, will suck more battery, so those should be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crxssi View Post
    All of your advice is valid except the above. On an LCD screen, it doesn't matter at all what is being displayed, only how bright the backlight is. Your advice *IS* valid on an OLED screen, but that is not what we are using (thank goodness). A live background, however, will suck more battery, so those should be avoided.
    Ahh, good to know. I came from a GNex.

    I prefer the dark screen anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bront View Post
    Are you constantly doing stuff on it? Or is it stuff in the background?

    I get 2-3 days of use on a charge, depending on where I am and what I'm doing. I'm hot a heavy user by any means though. I often see 20-30% drain at work when I tend to use it most. Currently I'm at 53% of my charge with 1 day, 4 hours and 22 minutes off charger. Overnight I get 2-5% drainage with the phone radio on.

    Honestly, any phone runs better if you streamline your usage a bit. Your processor isn't doing as much, your battery lasts longer (which is good for the battery), and your phone is more likely to be ready for you to rock when you need it.

    Stuff I do:
    1) Turn on ART. HUGE Idle battery saver.
    2) Turn off "OK Google" responce. Huge battery drain.
    3) Leave it on 3G when not using the internet. Even with a good signal, 4G drains the battery more, and what's the point if you're not using it. (Note, this would be easier of someone made a widget that made it easy, so I understand not wanting to do it).
    4) Set the GPS to battery saving when not in use. For everything short of driving directions, that's good enough.
    5) Space out any automated data synchs. Do you really need a facebook and email update within minutes of it happening? Do you even need your email auto-synched at all? (I have them all set to on demand, which takes a whole 30-60 seconds extra load time to pull down, even on 3G).
    6) Turn off Google Now (I don't have it off, and I get amazing battery life out of the N5).
    7) Set screen brightness to auto. Screen is the biggest battery suck, only so much you can do here.
    8) Enable dark mode for any apps you can, and set your background to a non-live dark background. (Bright/lighter colors suck more battery. It's minor, but it does help).
    9) Install Greenify (if you have root), and let it suspend any apps you know you don't need and don't want to take over in the background (Many games can "stick" open and running).
    10) Use Wifi, have all your updates/backups that are automated happen on wifi only. Turn off Wifi (and BT) when not in use.

    Now, admittedly, your usage and mine might vary, but this is the longest I've ever had a smart phone battery last.

    With that setup, I can get 2 days (pull it off the charger 1 day, put it back on the next) of use on the phone with between 1-3 hours of screen time, and often 20-40% when I put it back on the charger.

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    One of the things I loved was just saying OK Google and got it to work.

    Hopefully they put in a better battery in the nexus 6 or whatever they want to call it. I also might consider a Samsung galaxy s5 Google play edition if they make that. And before the m8 comes up I think the ultra pixel camera is a dud

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    To the OP, I can certainly understand why the Nexus 5 isn't the phone for you. It isn't for everyone. Some of the shortcomings of the device you mentioned can be explained in the facts that it is stock Android which won't include a lot of the features that other Android manufacturers will include out of the box. You may be able to get these features through apps or rooting, but you are right in saying that it really won't be optimized for that device or the network. I think us Nexus users also make certain concessions because of the price of the device. When you are paying $350-$400 for a device off contract, it is hard to complain about a few features that aren't included. I hope you are able to find a device that fits your needs.
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