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    I think we are all getting a little paranoid here. We don't NEED an app. Well actually we do as in Jellybean, but Android doesn't NEED the app like the iPad people do. Amazon.com works on Android, it didn't on the iPad. It's really that simple, there are no conspiracy's. The man behind the curtain is the window washer, I promise.
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    Sure, we don't need an application but I would love to be able to "rent" movies and download them locally for short times like you can in Play Video. It may seem unnecessary, but I travel a lot by plane and like to watch movies while in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkiker2089 View Post
    I think you've all missed one important thing. You can already watch amazon on <4.1 devices with no hacking and 4.1 with little effort via flash. IOS has been totally in the dark.

    Also consider that the Nexus and Fire are both loss leaders.
    Precisely!

    Releasing the Amazon Instant Video app just gave new life to my iPad2, which had been collecting dust in a corner. Amazon needed to do something if they hoped to remain relevant in the digital content sphere. There was no other way to consume Amazon content on iOS.

    I suspect we'll see an Android app around the time the Fire 2 is announced. Now that the Nexus 7 is popping up in Walmart, there's a push of new digital subscribers. They'll go to the Google Play store unless Amazon makes it easy for them.

    I doubt the real money is in the Prime subscribership. The service gives Amazon a steady cash stream, but it is relatively tiny compared to the cost of licensing video. The real money is in getting people to rent or buy video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    I have no problem with companies that restrict their apps from "jail broken" and even rooted devices.

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    And I have no problem not doing business with companies who don't provide content in a way that is most convenient to me. Amazon blocking jailbroken devices is stupid, it won't make a lick of difference to people who want to pirate content (they'd get it from elsewhere anyway), but it will annoy some of their customers who would otherwise be willing to pay. Amazon (or the media companies) are absolutely free to be stupid in their business practises, just as I'm free not to give them money when they are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsaw View Post
    And I have no problem not doing business with companies who don't provide content in a way that is most convenient to me. Amazon blocking jailbroken devices is stupid, it won't make a lick of difference to people who want to pirate content (they'd get it from elsewhere anyway), but it will annoy some of their customers who would otherwise be willing to pay. Amazon (or the media companies) are absolutely free to be stupid in their business practises, just as I'm free not to give them money when they are stupid.

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    And that's what you should do. More people should speak with their wallet rather than moan and on an internet forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenas View Post
    I doubt the real money is in the Prime subscribership. The service gives Amazon a steady cash stream, but it is relatively tiny compared to the cost of licensing video. The real money is in getting people to rent or buy video.
    Prime is larger than video and the associated licensing cost. Prime is a benefit to your entire Amazon relationship. Check out all the benefits of having a Prime account. Amazon understands that if you are a loyal Prime account holder that you are more likely to buy all kinds of goods and services they offer. I don't see why Amazon would not want to make Instant Video available in the form of a true app on every device and every OS. Making video available would drive more Prime subscribers, and more Prime subscribers translates to more profits from goods and services available through Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xICEMANx View Post
    again, why does iOS get everything first? I don't get it. I would love the Amazon Instant Video app on my Nexus 7. That is really the only thing I miss from my Kindle Fire.
    I have amazon prime but also Netflix so I don't think I am missing a whole lot. I find the Netflix app to be a little bare bone though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xICEMANx View Post
    again, why does iOS get everything first? I don't get it. I would love the Amazon Instant Video app on my Nexus 7. That is really the only thing I miss from my Kindle Fire.
    because Amazon is cunning!!! They dont want us to buy Nexus 7 and they are restricting so that people will buy Kindle fire!!!
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    Uh. iOS gets stuff first because it's easier to support 2 SKUs vs. hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguaski View Post
    Does Amazon really care if you buy a Kindle Fire? I thought the whole point of the Fire was for Amazon to provide a gateway device for selling you Amazon content. Amazon is not making much money on the Fire, and early articles even suggested that offering the Fire was an Amazon gamble that required Amazon to realize a small loss on each unit sold. I believe more recent analysis shows that Amazon breaks even when they sell a device. But my point is that Amazon offers the Fire so that you will buy more from Amazon. Since content is what Amazon is really interested in selling you, I think it would be to their benefit to allow all content on any device. It may be even more profitable for Amazon when you are willing to bring your own device to consume their services.

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    You, sir, make an excellent point.

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    That can't be it because I have the app on my jailbroken iPad.

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    That can't be it because I have the app on my jailbroken iPad.

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    That can't be it because I have the app on my jailbroken iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irvgotti View Post
    Would the different screen size have anything to do with it? Aren't all the iPads the same in screen size? I know I've read some post where its just easier to do something app wise on the iPad. U have android tabs in ,many different sizes , so ,maybe they are working to get it on all devices instead of the 7in tabs.
    This right here.

    Developing for iOS is easier, because there are very few differentiations in aspect ratio and resolution. With Android it seems like every new device is a little different, and if you look around at different apps in the Android store, you'll see people with this phone or that tablet having issues with an app, forcing the developer to debug their apps for specific devices.

    Also, there are more iOS devices than Android, so it's a larger market.

    Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon is looking at non-Kindle Android tablets as competition, and thus much more hesitant to develop for them. When you look at Kindle vs iPad, it's a whole different device & pricepoint, so while they are somewhat in competition, in many ways they're really not. It's like KIA viewing BMW as competition. While they both sell cars, they're appealing to very different people. Android tablets, however, tend to be more budget friendly, and in direct competition with the Kindle Fire. So that leaves Amazon in a quandry: should they offer a Prime Video app on Android and increase the appeal of getting a Prime membership, but potentially lose a lot of Fire sales (and thus possibly lose other sales that would've been made by keeping users locked into the Amazon ecosystem). Obviously for users, the more accessible the services are, the better for us, but Amazon has to look at things in terms of profits, both short and long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YAYTech View Post
    This right here.

    Developing for iOS is easier, because there are very few differentiations in aspect ratio and resolution. With Android it seems like every new device is a little different, and if you look around at different apps in the Android store, you'll see people with this phone or that tablet having issues with an app, forcing the developer to debug their apps for specific devices.

    Also, there are more iOS devices than Android, so it's a larger market.

    Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon is looking at non-Kindle Android tablets as competition, and thus much more hesitant to develop for them. When you look at Kindle vs iPad, it's a whole different device & pricepoint, so while they are somewhat in competition, in many ways they're really not. It's like KIA viewing BMW as competition. While they both sell cars, they're appealing to very different people. Android tablets, however, tend to be more budget friendly, and in direct competition with the Kindle Fire. So that leaves Amazon in a quandry: should they offer a Prime Video app on Android and increase the appeal of getting a Prime membership, but potentially lose a lot of Fire sales (and thus possibly lose other sales that would've been made by keeping users locked into the Amazon ecosystem). Obviously for users, the more accessible the services are, the better for us, but Amazon has to look at things in terms of profits, both short and long term.
    Here's the thing. If you use Amazon Instant Video, you're more likely to be a Prime member - you're already locked in the Amazon ecosystem for at least a year. I don't think Amazon cares if you're watching on a Kindle Fire or an iPad. They already have you.

    Some would say that they might prefer that you watch on an iPad so they don't have to sell you a Kindle Fire at a loss to them.
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    Here's the thing. If you use Amazon Instant Video, you're more likely to be a Prime member - you're already locked in the Amazon ecosystem for at least a year.
    Not at all. I'm a Prime member, and I buy most of my music through Google, order a lot of my electronics through Newegg, etc. I'm not at all locked into their ecosystem, but if I had a Kindle, it would be more of a pain to buy stuff through other venues on my tablet.

    Some would say that they might prefer that you watch on an iPad so they don't have to sell you a Kindle Fire at a loss to them.
    And those folks don't understand how these ecosystems work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YAYTech View Post
    Not at all. I'm a Prime member, and I buy most of my music through Google, order a lot of my electronics through Newegg, etc. I'm not at all locked into their ecosystem, but if I had a Kindle, it would be more of a pain to buy stuff through other venues on my tablet.
    Curious, what are you paying Amazon $75/year for?

    You say most of your music. Does that means some still comes from Amazon MP3?

    You say a lot of electronics through Newegg. Does that mean you comparison shop and Newegg usually has the better deal?

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    And those folks don't understand how these ecosystems work.
    Saying "locked" probably isn't the best description for Amazon. I can turn an iPad into a Kindle Fire if I was that deep into Amazon but didn't want a Kindle Fire. The main missing piece is Amazon Instant Video for Android if I wanted to turn an Android device into a Kindle Fire. Amazon's approach to it's ecosystem has always been to make their content available in as many places as possible, even video game consoles.
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    Curious, what are you paying Amazon $75/year for?
    Mostly the shipping benefits - I have a small business doing, among other things, computer repair. I source a fair number of parts from Amazon, and customers appreciate fast repairs, which means I appreciate fast & cheap shipping.

    You say most of your music. Does that means some still comes from Amazon MP3?
    I'd say about 90% Google, 9% Amazon, 1% iTunes. Sometimes what I need isn't on Google, or I have credits or there's a better price on Amazon. Every once in a while I can't find what I need anywhere but iTunes.

    You say a lot of electronics through Newegg. Does that mean you comparison shop and Newegg usually has the better deal?
    I probably place 3-5 orders a week through Newegg and Amazon, each. Prices are usually comparable between them, but it's a thousand times easier to find what I need on Newegg, and I have the Shoprunner free 2-day shipping through Newegg as well. So unless I need the $3.99 1-day from Amazon, shipping is a wash between the two.

    Saying "locked" probably isn't the best description for Amazon. I can turn an iPad into a Kindle Fire if I was that deep into Amazon but didn't want a Kindle Fire. The main missing piece is Amazon Instant Video for Android if I wanted to turn an Android device into a Kindle Fire. Amazon's approach to it's ecosystem has always been to make their content available in as many places as possible, even video game consoles.
    And most, if not all Android devices can play Amazon Instant Video, we just don't have the dedicated app. We may eventually. But I can see why Android would be their lowest priority, between it already technically being functional on Android (granted it requires a Flash workaround on the N7), and Android being the highest competition for their own Kindle. The question is whether it's a matter of priorities, or if it's a matter of them actually holding out due to some kind of strategy. I honestly don't know, but I can make guesses based on the more obvious motives of the market they're working in.
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