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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBelig View Post
    This precisely. After the first day, my Nexus 7 has become dog slow. Taps sometimes take seconds to be responded to and it feels like an old product. Put it this way, I used to show it off to people who'd remark about how fast it was; now I won't dare because it is so laggy it looks like one of those $99 tablets you'd find at Big Lots or CVS. I'm not kidding.
    ... Put simply, Jelly Bean shouldn't feel like Ice Cream Sandwich and this is what has happened with my N7. 4.2 is a step back to 4.0 from 4.1.
    YES. I've been noticing all kinds of delays and slowdowns, enough that I tap once, figured it was ignored, tap again, ... and 3 seconds later both taps are acted upon.

    Absolutely terrible. Reboots and killing all active apps doesn't help.

    C'mon 4.2.1...!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkBelig View Post
    If a factory wipe is going to be required to have a properly functioning device, then they need to stop calling it an update and call it a nuke from orbit. I had the NO_DATA update for my GS2 result in atrocious battery life and performance and whacked it, fixing things, but I wasn't happy about the hassle.

    It's just such a PITMFA to blow away all your stuff and start fresh. I know there are people who flash ROMs daily, but they aren't using their phones - they're gadget nerds playing around with their toys. (These are the clowns who claim to reload Windows monthly for best performance. I ran my last PC for four years on it's OG load of WinXP and it was fine until it was retired.) Most people simply want their stuff to work and having to start from scratch is BS.
    Have you tried just wiping the cache partition, as was mentioned above? This doesn't erase user data, and others have noticed performance improvements after doing so. This trick also worked for the Razr Maxx after the ICS update.
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  3. #78  

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    FWIW, I've wiped the cache partition -- something you should never "have to" do for proper performance -- a few times the lagginess and delays return within a day's infrequent use.
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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    I wouldn't call it "kinda sucks" but it is a regression IMO. Don't care for the ui changes or the multi-user feature (would like to disable it if I knew how) and fonts on some apps do not display properly.

    Did a system reset but still have random reboots. 4.1.2 is a definite possibility for me.
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    I did the cache clean fix and things are running better at the moment. Let's see how long it lasts.
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    I just factory reset. We'll see how that works with any problems I was having. Strangely enough I'm having clock lag on the lock screen... Like we saw on CM9 for other devices.

    One thing I noticed in the source code for the launcher... A class called "RocketLauncher" which was added to the launcher code in 4.1, has been removed in 4.2. I say this because I've looked at the code and it clearly was a bunch of code that made the launcher faster, so idk what they did with it in 4.2.... I definitely have some glitching occasionally in the app drawer, more than in 4.1.

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  7. #82  

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonycr View Post
    I just factory reset. We'll see how that works with any problems I was having. Strangely enough I'm having clock lag on the lock screen... Like we saw on CM9 for other devices.

    One thing I noticed in the source code for the launcher... A class called "RocketLauncher" which was added to the launcher code in 4.1, has been removed in 4.2. I say this because I've looked at the code and it clearly was a bunch of code that made the launcher faster, so idk what they did with it in 4.2.... I definitely have some glitching occasionally in the app drawer, more than in 4.1.
    I've actually had some FC's of something I think was called ActivityLauncher, I'll have to watch for that.

    I've got a screenshot of "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" as well (on the Home Screen).
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    I'm not a fan of the half-bold clock...it just looks uneven and well, too me at least, ugly.

    Otherwise, I haven't had any other issues indicated here (outside of the missing December bug in the People app).

    Also I haven't really decided if I like the way the notification shade is being handled on the Nexus 7. It makes sense to have two different shades on the bigger tablets, but on the N7 it seems a little cramped in portrait. But since they decided to go the "two shades" route, then they should at least have a better indicator to the user to pull down on the specific area as a way of saying "hey if you pull down on me then you'll get to see more stuff!"). Essentially I'm looking for a temporary intrusive notification, like seen on iOS or WP, that goes away after a set amount of time. Only the most recent one will show with the option for the user to immediately expand the entire notification tray down (as seen in my example attachment). It should be disabled for intensive activities and apps like games or video.
    Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks-tablet_notifications.jpg
    While I understand some, or perhaps most, would not like to see intrusive notifications as it takes up screen real estate albeit temporarily ...I think the screen size on tablets could warrant the sacrifice. I could see how it may not be optimal on phones, however.
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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    This whole thread reminds of me the the Windows Vista debacle...

    Having to do a factory reset doesn't seem like that big of a deal all things considered... There are so many apps out there with soooo many permissions and requirements it doesn't surprise me that an OS update might cause issues... Now if anyone has purchased a new Nexus 7 (fresh OS) and had all these issues I'd be much more concerned

    Short of playing in a nice walled garden (*cough* iOS *cough*) the open nature of Android means that some of these things will happen... however unlike any iOS device, if something is wrong, you do have the ability to fix it, might be a learning curve for some though.

    Above all, I know I would rather be using an OS that continues to evolve and grow made by a company that at the very least tries to innovate (im looking at you half bold clock)...
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    On my Galaxy Nexus the 4.2 update gave me a dramatic increase in battery life, and I haven't had any app issues other than the Amazon App Store, but I think that might just be because of the device registration issue that I have ran into before. (every time you flash a ROM it registers a new device, and stops adding new ones at 25)

    I know the battery is helped somewhat by the fact that this is the first time I have ran a stock ROM/kernel in awhile. But I don't think it was ever this good before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzen89 View Post
    This whole thread reminds of me the the Windows Vista debacle...

    Having to do a factory reset doesn't seem like that big of a deal all things considered... There are so many apps out there with soooo many permissions and requirements it doesn't surprise me that an OS update might cause issues... Now if anyone has purchased a new Nexus 7 (fresh OS) and had all these issues I'd be much more concerned

    Short of playing in a nice walled garden (*cough* iOS *cough*) the open nature of Android means that some of these things will happen... however unlike any iOS device, if something is wrong, you do have the ability to fix it, might be a learning curve for some though.

    Above all, I know I would rather be using an OS that continues to evolve and grow made by a company that at the very least tries to innovate (im looking at you half bold clock)...
    to me a factory reset is a big deal because it takes hours to get everything back the way it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChromeJob View Post
    YES. I've been noticing all kinds of delays and slowdowns, enough that I tap once, figured it was ignored, tap again, ... and 3 seconds later both taps are acted upon.

    C'mon 4.2.1...!!!
    Possible solution: A colleague searched online and found reports that 4.x needs 3GB or so available in storage. With a few games and music and whatnot, I had about 2.7GB free. I uninstalled TDKR (2.2GB or so), used Forever Gone to fill and clear the free space, rebooted and wiped cache partition, and am now running with Currents, Earth, G+, and other apps in background, and Currents Daydream on the "screensaver." It seems a bit zippier. Will report back later if I remember to....

    T'is a pity that the OS needs to have 1/8 to 1/4 of the storage freed up to run properly. Doesn't Android have it's own cache partition to keep running smoothly?

    (Yes. A wipe and factory reset will achieve the same thing. Of course it does -- you're restoring massive free space. This will work only until you again fill up your storage with games, music, videos, whatever.)
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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by dave1812 View Post
    to me a factory reset is a big deal because it takes hours to get everything back the way it was

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums
    Yep, I realized that when I factory reset on Sunday... It took about an hour to get stuff back to normal and I only have a tapatalk, two angry birds games, and some apps I've coded. Granted I have slow WiFi, but it took a while even with only a few apps, especially since the 4.2 zip didn't even have the updated apks for lots of the Google apps.

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    Kobo also put out their update and working perfect now. Thank God!
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    Good read. I just bought a Nexus 7 three weeks ago as a Christmas Gift. Based on what I've read so far, it appears I'm better off staying on what I'm assuming is 4.1 out of the box and put up with the annoying notifications until this gets sorted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isGuy View Post
    Good read. I just bought a Nexus 7 three weeks ago as a Christmas Gift. Based on what I've read so far, it appears I'm better off staying on what I'm assuming is 4.1 out of the box and put up with the annoying notifications until this gets sorted out.
    It's weird how some people are having so many issues. I guess I am lucky cause I only had problems with 3 apps. So yes, it must really be frustrating.
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    I'm a bit late to the slag 4.2 party but yes so many apps dont work now, some laggyness now and again too and a full crash at one point... next time i'll be waiting to see what the reports are before diving in with an update.
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    I would stay with 4.1 until the bugs are worked out. IMO not enough on the plus side to outweigh what others are seeing. In particular the screen brightness issue is starting to bother me. I am considering doing some research on how to back rev.

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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by bottlerocket View Post
    The main differences I notice, I don't like. The new clock, the lock screen widgets, and two pull-down notifications panels. Not an improvement for me, at least aesthetically.
    My exact same problems with the update.

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    Just did the Recovery Mode Cache Reset method. I've noticed a difference already. Its back to a speedy OS. Let's see how long this last............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drayk View Post
    I just read this....I'm in the market for a new tablet and am sitting on the fence btwn two tablets...(two completely different tabs)
    lol....Dec missing from the calendar is pretty big for me
    Google has said that a fix is imminent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashiskingnyc View Post
    Just did the Recovery Mode Cache Reset method. I've noticed a difference already. Its back to a speedy OS. Let's see how long this last............

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    Do you have to be rooted to do that?

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    Default Re: Is it me or 4.2 kinda sucks

    Am I the only one who has never had an incompatibility with an app?

    My 4.2 OS runs without any problem (battery life may have shortened a bit, though), and had been compatible with everything.
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