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    Default Would you be willing to pay more for a higher end Nexus 7 (2013 model)?

    The Nexus 7 is a pretty good device for $200 but you can tell Google and ASUS had to take out a few features to make it so inexpensive. If they were willing to make a higher end tablet, it would add maybe $75 to the price. Some things to consider adding:

    1. A high res screen (~300 ppi). We have 5" phones that have 1080p screens so it can be done on a 7" screen. Also, a better contrast screen like the iPad mini.
    2. A good rear camera. The iPad Mini has one and is often requested for the N7.
    3. A hdmi or micro hdmi port.
    4. A SD card slot. This is actually more Google not wanting you to expand memory than cost savings although it does save them a few bucks. Google wants you to pay them for their cloud.
    5. Better speakers. Both the Nexus and iPad speakers are lame. I don't know how so many reviewers say they are good. Yes, you won't get very high quality speakers in a 7" tablet but I'm sure it can be better than what is there now.
    6. Tegra 4 or Exynos 5 chip. This will likely come in 2013 models and they update the CPU/GPU every year anyway so it shouldn't add too much to the cost.
    7. Better battery. Maybe even removable.

    In 2013, we are likely to see more 7" tablets from ASUS, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba, and Amazon. If Google doesn't put out a high end 7" tablet, someone will. I'd be willing to pay an extra $75 or so to get the above. Would you?
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    I would pay for it in a heartbeat....first 1080 tablet with rear facing camera I see myself buying

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    I'd like to see a color saturation control, ala my Galaxy Note 2.
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    I made a comment on g+ earlier today. I'd almost instantly buy one if it had spen functionality.

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    I don't see myself needing yet another 7" tablet in a year. I purchased my Xoom 4G LTE on release day and it worked great when I got rid of it and picked up the N10. As for a rear facing camera, in my opinion it is useless on a tablet. I bet the one on my Xoom didn't get used 10 times.

    I figure that the current generation of Nexus tablets should last at least 2 years if not more.
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    Default Re: Would you be willing to pay more for a higher end Nexus 7 (2013 model)?

    The only thing I'd like to see is a better screen (color, resolution, etc.)
    I'd pay $75 more for this alone. All other things you listed are not important IMO, especially the rear camera. It's not like the camera quality would be good, so why bother
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    Naw.... I bought it because it was what it is at the price I was willing to pay. And it gave me huge bang for buck. That is what made the nexus 7 so magical .
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    I would pay for an mSD slot, an HDMI out port, front facing stereo speakers (like the N10) and the next gen Tegra soc. A higher res screen doesn't interest me much. A rear camera doesn't interest me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ronne View Post
    Naw.... I bought it because it was what it is at the price I was willing to pay. And it gave me huge bang for buck. That is what made the nexus 7 so magical .
    Exactly.
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    Definitely a rear camera and hdmi. Both would make it perfect for me.
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    Default Re: Would you be willing to pay more for a higher end Nexus 7 (2013 model)?

    Looks like everyone is split on what they want so it's impossible to make the " prefect" N7
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    Quote Originally Posted by tr-1 View Post
    Looks like everyone is split on what they want so it's impossible to make the " prefect" N7
    There are rumors that Google is making an even lower end Nexus 7 with worse specs than the current one for $99. So multiple versions of the Nexus 7 could exist. Every added feature mentioned above will cost a little extra except the updated CPU/GPU since Tegra 4/Exynos 5 is expected to replace the Tegra 3/Exynos 4 anyway. So people who want a barebones Nexus 7 can buy current versions but if there is a market for more high end features, it then becomes a question of which things to add. Adding a iPad 4 quality rear camera adds maybe $15 to the BOM. Adding a 1080p screen is probably the most expensive, maybe $50 more. Adding a hdmi and sd card slot is just a few dollars. Better speakers maybe $10.
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    I wouldn't pay anything for a device without 4g. Apparently Google does not find 4g important

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    Thinner and lighter. That's all I want.
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    MicroSD + micro HDMI are all I'd want for $50 more.
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    I love the N7. But a rear camera would make this more productive for me at work.
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    I think 1080p is a bit overkill for a 7" tablet, I'd be happy with an incremental improvement in the screen res 1440x900 will do, higher resolutions just means you need a more powerful GPU to push to pixels to it, for little visible benefit.

    HDMI would be nice as would a micro sd slot, and front facing stereo speakers, what would be cool is if they put a speaker in each corner and had the output adjust so you get stereo output in portrait and landscape.

    Other than that I would like them to keep the price down, and putting in every feature under the sun would raise the price too much, the main reason I bought the Nexus 7 is because it was such great value.

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    I'd want the following:

    Extended battery life
    Improved screen resolution
    Gorilla glass
    Front stereo speakers

    In that order too. Barely get 5.5 hours of active use out of this N7! Everything else is inconsequential to me. Didn't include processor because 1) this one runs just fine and 2) I imagine they'd upgrade it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svfd757 View Post
    I wouldn't pay anything for a device without 4g. Apparently Google does not find 4g important

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    That's because worldwide 4g doesn't matter. Here in the us most markets are so saturated that it doesn't matter anyway. This is coming from someone who has lte

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainplane View Post
    1. A high res screen (~300 ppi). We have 5" phones that have 1080p screens so it can be done on a 7" screen. Also, a better contrast screen like the iPad mini.
    I can agree with that since that while it is a great screen, it could be better. That being said, it isn't bad at all.

    2. A good rear camera. The iPad Mini has one and is often requested for the N7.
    Why do you need a rear camera? I see no benefit of that, unless you're one of those people who like taking pictures...with a tablet...Get a real camera or use the one on your phone. Useless hardware on a tablet IMO.

    3. A hdmi or micro hdmi port.
    Ok, yeah why not. It is useful.
    4. A SD card slot. This is actually more Google not wanting you to expand memory than cost savings although it does save them a few bucks. Google wants you to pay them for their cloud.

    You don't pay for anything really.
    5. Better speakers. Both the Nexus and iPad speakers are lame. I don't know how so many reviewers say they are good. Yes, you won't get very high quality speakers in a 7" tablet but I'm sure it can be better than what is there now.

    Get a decent set of headphones or use your speaker system. Bluetooth it up.
    6. Tegra 4 or Exynos 5 chip. This will likely come in 2013 models and they update the CPU/GPU every year anyway so it shouldn't add too much to the cost.
    7. Better battery. Maybe even removable.

    Better battery? Maybe. Removable? No, Google is moving away from SD cards and removable batterys. You just have to get used to it.
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    I would pay more for a better screen and a better speaker setup. But the again, I like the price point right now. I think the Nexus 7 really doesn't compromise all that much. Really good blend of features at a great price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo2186 View Post
    1. A high res screen (~300 ppi). We have 5" phones that have 1080p screens so it can be done on a 7" screen. Also, a better contrast screen like the iPad mini.
    I can agree with that since that while it is a great screen, it could be better. That being said, it isn't bad at all.

    2. A good rear camera. The iPad Mini has one and is often requested for the N7.
    Why do you need a rear camera? I see no benefit of that, unless you're one of those people who like taking pictures...with a tablet...Get a real camera or use the one on your phone. Useless hardware on a tablet IMO.

    3. A hdmi or micro hdmi port.
    Ok, yeah why not. It is useful.
    4. A SD card slot. This is actually more Google not wanting you to expand memory than cost savings although it does save them a few bucks. Google wants you to pay them for their cloud.

    You don't pay for anything really.
    5. Better speakers. Both the Nexus and iPad speakers are lame. I don't know how so many reviewers say they are good. Yes, you won't get very high quality speakers in a 7" tablet but I'm sure it can be better than what is there now.

    Get a decent set of headphones or use your speaker system. Bluetooth it up.
    6. Tegra 4 or Exynos 5 chip. This will likely come in 2013 models and they update the CPU/GPU every year anyway so it shouldn't add too much to the cost.
    7. Better battery. Maybe even removable.

    Better battery? Maybe. Removable? No, Google is moving away from SD cards and removable batterys. You just have to get used to it.
    2. The nexus 7 is a one handed device so a camera on it isn't as silly as an iPad camera. The iPad Mini will soon be the most popular tablet ever and you'll see many people using its camera. Sorry if that offends you.
    4. You know only the first 5 GB of Google Drive is free right? Google isn't a charity.
    5. Many people have good headphones and speakers but don't carry them all the time. The tablet's speakers are often used. Do you have a Nexus 7?
    7. I know Google probably won't do removable batteries. But another tablet maker might do a pure android 7" that does.

    Of the things suggested here, only a higher res screen and rear camera will significantly add to the cost. A SD card slot, hdmi slot, even a better battery will only add a few dollars to the BOM. Also, Tegra 4 might have an LTE radio built in.
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    It's not in Google's interest to build a low-end Nexus device. They want to build devices with high-end SoC, competitive physical design, only the essential features for each product, put the latest Android OS on it to test for compatibility, and benchmark for performance. Asus, Samsung, Acer, HTC, Kobo, Huawei, or whoever else might want to dabble in the $99 barebones tablet market but for that price it's not going to be compelling hardware. Are any of us going to buy that? No, we're not.

    Regarding a new, high-end Nexus 7 model for 2013, I think we're going to see an offering from Motorola. Remember them? The Xoom and the Xyboard were their 2011 tablets, and now we have rumors of an "X" tablet in the making from Moto. I wouldn't be surprised to see the following from them by July, given the current Nexus 7 tablet would be due for a new version first:

    --- Nexus 7.5 ---
    Tegra 3 1.7GHz
    2GB RAM
    32/64GB storage
    1900x1200 pixel (16:10 ratio), 7.5" diagonal Super IPS display at roughly 300PPI
    HDMI out
    5KmAh battery

    I would also not be surprised to see thinner bezels on the sides (if you are looking in portrait mode), but I would suspect the tablet would be a little closer to 14oz in terms of weight. And I suspect we're looking at $300 and $400 models.

    And yes, I would so buy one....
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    I would definitely consider paying for a better tablet, but the affordable price tag for already awesome specs is what i like about the Nexus line of devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trainplane View Post
    The Nexus 7 is a pretty good device for $200 but you can tell Google and ASUS had to take out a few features to make it so inexpensive. If they were willing to make a higher end tablet, it would add maybe $75 to the price. Some things to consider adding:

    1. A high res screen (~300 ppi). We have 5" phones that have 1080p screens so it can be done on a 7" screen. Also, a better contrast screen like the iPad mini.
    2. A good rear camera. The iPad Mini has one and is often requested for the N7.
    3. A hdmi or micro hdmi port.
    4. A SD card slot. This is actually more Google not wanting you to expand memory than cost savings although it does save them a few bucks. Google wants you to pay them for their cloud.
    5. Better speakers. Both the Nexus and iPad speakers are lame. I don't know how so many reviewers say they are good. Yes, you won't get very high quality speakers in a 7" tablet but I'm sure it can be better than what is there now.
    6. Tegra 4 or Exynos 5 chip. This will likely come in 2013 models and they update the CPU/GPU every year anyway so it shouldn't add too much to the cost.
    7. Better battery. Maybe even removable.

    In 2013, we are likely to see more 7" tablets from ASUS, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba, and Amazon. If Google doesn't put out a high end 7" tablet, someone will. I'd be willing to pay an extra $75 or so to get the above. Would you?
    I am very happy with the Nexus7 and the fact that it lacks these features you want included. I bought it because of its simple nature and focus on media consumption. It seems to me you want an all-in-one type tablet which the Nexus7 in design was not intended for. There numerous products out there of the all-in-one design you can choose from which Google did not want to compete with for market share. So it is highly unlikely your going to see the Nexus7 abandon its core design elements. One thing the general public seems refused to come to terms with about tablets. They are satellite devices and benefit greatly from the support of other host devices - wifi drives, mobile data/hotspots, PCs, smart TVs, Bluetooth devices, wifi cameras, Cloud access, etc. Tablets are not meant to be your stand-alone computer. So a owner of a "smart home" or even someone that makes use of modern methods does not need most of the added features these all-in-one tablets offer.

    The other features like better cpu, speakers, screeen, battery are all stuff I expect to be part of a newer model at the same price point or at least close. So no I wouldn't be will to pay more for just an updated Nexus7 years after I bought my first Nexus7.
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