02-05-2013 09:07 PM
  1. dougltc's Avatar
    I am disappointed by my N7's lack of a rear camera (note: I knew that it didn't have one before purchasing, thought that I could live with just a front cam... I can't)

    And I know that a new N7 is rumored for I/O time frame... and that new tablets get announced ...

    As of this writing, what 7" tablets exist for less than $250 that have a rear facing camera?

    I know about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 v2... any others?

    Anyone care to share their opinions of the N7 vs the Galaxy Tab 2 or tablets with a rear camera?

    If I switched to a Galaxy Tab 2, what would I miss/lose that I have with my N7 now?

    Thanks....

    Because it likely be asked, here is why I want/need a rear camera on my 7" tablet:

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    I personally want a rear camera because:

    I sell a lot online (Listia, Amazon, eBay, CraigsList, etc) and both Listia and eBay have fantastic Android apps that allow the pictures to be easily taken on the fly...

    Neither support the front camera...

    Also, I shop a lot on Amazon... their Android app is super handy for scanning barcodes and looking stuff up... it doesn't support the front facing camera...

    Etc...etc...etc...

    Both my phone and iPad 4 have rear cameras... I find myself having to grab one or the other every time I want to post something which is inconvenient...

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    02-04-2013 02:50 PM
  2. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Acer A110 has good specs, but being an owner of the older A100, I'd be concerned about viewing angle and battery life, both of which are poor on the latter.

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    02-04-2013 02:54 PM
  3. RodLS's Avatar
    Why do you want a camera on a tablet? In my opinion taking a picture with a huge tablet looks silly. For that reason I'm glad they left the camera off.
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    02-04-2013 02:54 PM
  4. dougltc's Avatar
    Why do you want a camera on a tablet? In my opinion taking a picture with a huge tablet looks silly. For that reason I'm glad they left the camera off.
    I updated the original post while you were posting this legitimate question...

    See OP for my answer... thanks

    And yes, use a tablet for general photography needs is silly... IMHO...

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    02-04-2013 02:56 PM
  5. YAYTech's Avatar
    I'm also eyeballing the Tab 2 7.0, and will probably buy one if I can get confirmation that I can use the Square card swiper on it. I still really like my N7, but payments is part of why I bought it, only to find it didn't work. If anyone can confirm Square works on it, please say so. I'm sad to be looking at non-Vanilla Android, and a lower resolution screen, though.
    02-04-2013 03:04 PM
  6. Diknak's Avatar
    Before this, I had the Acer A100 and it ended up getting too cold and it stopped working. It was in my pocket for 2 hours when I was outside in 30 degree weather. . . so it was very unexpected.

    The A100 has terrible viewing angles, a very lack luster battery life, terrible update support, and the overall screen quality is not as good. You have to be holding the A100 or it won't register touches correctly (like if it is on a table). I think it is a grounding issue, but I'm not real sure. It FELT like a sub $300 tablet, where the N7 does not. Also, it is heavier and thicker.

    I hope that the next gen Nexus has a rear camera.
    02-04-2013 03:21 PM
  7. Quelch's Avatar
    Buy a Canon IXY 30 camera or similar and take high quality pictures
    Photos from any phone or tablet camera are mediocre
    High quality images make you look like a quality business with quality products

    Image is everything !
    02-04-2013 03:36 PM
  8. Jaysus's Avatar
    Engadget posted this a couple hours ago: Engadget's tablet buyer's guide: winter 2013 edition

    Looks like the N7 is still the 7" device of choice...
    02-04-2013 04:05 PM
  9. dougltc's Avatar
    I'm also eyeballing the Tab 2 7.0, and will probably buy one if I can get confirmation that I can use the Square card swiper on it. I still really like my N7, but payments is part of why I bought it, only to find it didn't work. If anyone can confirm Square works on it, please say so. I'm sad to be looking at non-Vanilla Android, and a lower resolution screen, though.
    From what I have been reading there won't be a Note 2 7 inch but instead an 8 inch form factor. So I am considering that as well...

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    02-04-2013 05:36 PM
  10. dougltc's Avatar
    Buy a Canon IXY 30 camera or similar and take high quality pictures
    Photos from any phone or tablet camera are mediocre
    High quality images make you look like a quality business with quality products

    Image is everything !
    You make a reasonable point. I have a nice digicam... but as far as I know, the eBay app down samples the resolution ... I know that the Listia app does for sure... and Craigslist does for sure.

    The convenience of not switching devices for each item that I post will be a big benefit.

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    02-04-2013 05:39 PM
  11. kilen71's Avatar
    I love my N7, but the upcoming Galaxy Note 8 has me really interested.
    02-05-2013 12:05 AM
  12. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Could complain to the app makers...since the problem is software (apps).

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    02-05-2013 12:14 AM
  13. mathelm's Avatar
    That's kind of like asking for an alternative to women...

    So Gay, apple or be like the poor guy trying to start a ***** house. Just run it by hand until you get on your feet.......
    02-05-2013 12:26 AM
  14. YAYTech's Avatar
    From what I have been reading there won't be a Note 2 7 inch but instead an 8 inch form factor. So I am considering that as well...

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    I didn't say Note, I said Tab. The Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 has been out for a while...

    Samsung Galaxy Tab
    02-05-2013 01:48 AM
  15. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Whenever I play around with a Galaxy Tab at Costco (either 7" or 10"), I'm always struck by how sluggish the homescreen swiping is. I figure that it's due to Touchwiz, but it's a real turnoff. Does anyone else notice this?
    02-05-2013 01:53 AM
  16. codeda's Avatar
    Whenever I play around with a Galaxy Tab at Costco (either 7" or 10"), I'm always struck by how sluggish the homescreen swiping is. I figure that it's due to Touchwiz, but it's a real turnoff. Does anyone else notice this?
    I think that it is more due to the fact that both have crappy insides more than touch wiz. I had a note10.1 and my boyfriend still has one and no issues with lag at all. I think the new note 8 tablet will be a really good one to hop on

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    02-05-2013 10:29 AM
  17. dougltc's Avatar
    I think that it is more due to the fact that both have crappy insides more than touch wiz. I had a note10.1 and my boyfriend still has one and no issues with lag at all. I think the new note 8 tablet will be a really good one to hop on

    Sent from my Nexus 10 using Android Central Forums
    I picked up a Note 10.1 at CostCo yesterday to play with... wanted to see if the dual view was useful, etc...

    It is definitely not as fast as my N7 but I wouldn't call it sluggish. It seems to be having some WiFi issues intermittently...

    I will definitely return it. The 10in form factor isn't what I want for my daily driver... I hardly ever use our iPad 4s for that reason.

    Some have complained that the Note 10.1 feels cheap and plasticky... it feels fine to me and I love it's contour compared to the iPad which is awful to hold, IMHO. Too sharp.

    The bottom line is that I will give the Note 8 a look... I am pretty certain that it will be more than I want to spend... if Samsung could price it at the current GT2 7.0 price, that would be killer...

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    02-05-2013 10:53 AM
  18. dougltc's Avatar
    I didn't say Note, I said Tab. The Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 has been out for a while...

    Samsung Galaxy Tab
    I know... I was just adding to the conversation...

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    02-05-2013 10:55 AM
  19. SupaLawlCat's Avatar
    Why do you want a camera on a tablet? In my opinion taking a picture with a huge tablet looks silly. For that reason I'm glad they left the camera off.
    It's hardly a huge tablet. It fits in your pocket. My phone (Note 2) is almost as big with it's case on.
    02-05-2013 07:24 PM
  20. Levolent com's Avatar
    I am disappointed by my N7's lack of a rear camera
    I remember seeing a camera orientation changing device for one of the older iphones. It's basically just a small tunnel with 2 mirrors. I used to have a toy that did the same as a kid. Might look into rigging one up if this is the only thing bugging you. You could fashion one out of 2 disco-ball 1 cm or less pieces of mirror, cardboard and tape. Go over it with some black spraypaint or electrical tape and noone will even know you made it yourself. "OH where can I get one of those?!"
    02-05-2013 07:27 PM
  21. skyrockett's Avatar
    Galaxy Tab 2 isn't that good. I've seen my friends Tab 2 with official Jelly Bean and that's a mess. Simply no other option N7 way to go... or you can wait for Note 7 or second generation N7.
    02-05-2013 07:32 PM
  22. dougltc's Avatar
    Galaxy Tab 2 isn't that good. I've seen my friends Tab 2 with official Jelly Bean and that's a mess. Simply no other option N7 way to go... or you can wait for Note 7 or second generation N7.
    Likely going to be a Note Two 8 inch, but I get your point.

    I have no problem waiting for an N7 HD (what I am calling the 2nd gen device) but there is no guarantee that it will have a camera...

    And I arrived at the same conclusion about the Tab 2 7.0

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    02-05-2013 08:40 PM
  23. dougltc's Avatar
    I remember seeing a camera orientation changing device for one of the older iphones. It's basically just a small tunnel with 2 mirrors. I used to have a toy that did the same as a kid. Might look into rigging one up if this is the only thing bugging you. You could fashion one out of 2 disco-ball 1 cm or less pieces of mirror, cardboard and tape. Go over it with some black spraypaint or electrical tape and noone will even know you made it yourself. "OH where can I get one of those?!"
    Posted about that a few months back:

    Wanted: Dongle / Bracket to allow front camera to face rear...
    Wanted: Dongle / Bracket to allow front camera to face rear...


    http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1998257
    Wanted: Dongle / Bracket to allow front camera to face rear...

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    02-05-2013 08:43 PM
  24. Levolent com's Avatar
    Just make your own imo.
    02-05-2013 09:07 PM

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