No more complaining about official Froyo. But here's what you can complain about...

[ock]

Ok. I feel that a few things need to be clarified because people continuously post frustration and questions without doing their research.

Froyo has not been officially released for the Nexus One. Not at all whatsoever. Everyone that seems to think that FRF83 is the official release build is reporting it as such incorrectly. YES, IT MAY BE POSSIBLE THAT FRF83 IS THE BUILD THAT DOES GET MADE OFFICIAL AND PUSHED OUT BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED OR PROVEN YET.

All the sites reporting "OMG!!! FROYO OTA!!! ZOMG!!! FINAL BUILD!! WEEEEE!!!!" are not giving all the facts. FRF83 was pushed out as an OTA to those who had manually updated their phone to the leaked FRF50/FRF72 that was not meant for public release. The only two FRF83 updates that have been leaked have been FRF83-from-FRF50 and FRF83-from-FRF72. Those with ERE27 still have to go FRF50-from-ERE27 and THEN go to FRF83. Backwards logic shows that this is not a final OTA push of Froyo as many blogs are incorrectly referring to it as. An update that only applies to those using a pre-release leaked build does NOT constitute "official".

Everyone needs to stop flipping out. I am just as frustrated as everyone (as an EPE54B user) that the rollout has not officially begun. But that does not give us the right to complain. When it is ready, it'll come out. Until Froyo was announced, everyone was perfectly content with their phone. So stop acting like suddenly the phone is worthless just because Google hasn't come through with the official Froyo release yet.

Here is what everyone has every right to get angry at though (if it happens): I support a fully mad internet-based riot if ANY other Android phone gets an official Froyo update before the Nexus One. This would completely negate one of the main aspects that drew people to the phone.

Now can't we all just get along?

[potheadhero]

Originally Posted by ock

Ok. I feel that a few things need to be clarified because people continuously post frustration and questions without doing their research.

Froyo has not been officially released for the Nexus One. Not at all whatsoever. Everyone that seems to think that FRF83 is the official release build is reporting it as such incorrectly. YES, IT MAY BE POSSIBLE THAT FRF83 IS THE BUILD THAT DOES GET MADE OFFICIAL AND PUSHED OUT BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED OR PROVEN YET.

All the sites reporting "OMG!!! FROYO OTA!!! ZOMG!!! FINAL BUILD!! WEEEEE!!!!" are not giving all the facts. FRF83 was pushed out as an OTA to those who had manually updated their phone to the leaked FRF50/FRF72 that was not meant for public release. The only two FRF83 updates that have been leaked have been FRF83-from-FRF50 and FRF83-from-FRF72. Those with ERE27 still have to go FRF50-from-ERE27 and THEN go to FRF83. Backwards logic shows that this is not a final OTA push of Froyo as many blogs are incorrectly referring to it as. An update that only applies to those using a pre-release leaked build does NOT constitute "official".

Everyone needs to stop flipping out. I am just as frustrated as everyone (as an EPE54B user) that the rollout has not officially begun. But that does not give us the right to complain. When it is ready, it'll come out. Until Froyo was announced, everyone was perfectly content with their phone. So stop acting like suddenly the phone is worthless just because Google hasn't come through with the official Froyo release yet.

Here is what everyone has every right to get angry at though (if it happens): I support a fully mad internet-based riot if ANY other Android phone gets an official Froyo update before the Nexus One. This would completely negate one of the main aspects that drew people to the phone.

Now can't we all just get along?

Agreed! I just recently purchased an N1 for AT&T and would be pretty pissed off as well if the N1 does not get updated before the other phones seeing as after all this is a GOOGLE phone. I am just patiently waiting but Froyo is one of the reasons why I chose this phone so I am hoping Google does not screw us over.

[tjp888]

Originally Posted by potheadhero

Agreed! I just recently purchased an N1 for AT&T and would be pretty pissed off as well if the N1 does not get updated before the other phones seeing as after all this is a GOOGLE phone. I am just patiently waiting but Froyo is one of the reasons why I chose this phone so I am hoping Google does not screw us over.

Yup, same here. The Nexus 1 darn better be the first.
Though, as a fellow AT&T subscriber I fully expect that AT&T will delay their OTA version of 2.2 so they can strip out the tethering.

I mean, AT&T never looks past an opportunity to screws it's customers.

[Phil Nickinson]

EXACTLY! I knew I wasn't the only person screaming this from the rooftops.

[ock]

Originally Posted by tjp888

Yup, same here. The Nexus 1 darn better be the first.
Though, as a fellow AT&T subscriber I fully expect that AT&T will delay their OTA version of 2.2 so they can strip out the tethering.

I mean, AT&T never looks past an opportunity to screws it's customers.

AT&T has no say in the firmware going to the N1. The only thing associating the phone with AT&T is that the model in reference includes support for their 3G bands. Since they do not offer official support nor do they sell it through themselves with subsidy, AT&T can hold no say in what gets pushed to it.

But yeah, definitely. If Google does it just simply to be on AT&T's good side, that would be messed up. But that would be Google's decision, not AT&T.

[wibsy]

Thank god somebody gets it. The blogosphere has been horrible about delivering this info. And it shows no sign of stopping any time soon.

Oh and something I reserve the right to complain about - if the next release doesn't fix the 3G radio issues on the nexus. I actually can't use my phone as a phone if I don't lock it to 2G. (T-Mobile, Jacksonville FL area)

[potheadhero]

I have just been very bothered due to the fact that only T-Mobile updates have leaked out and not one sign of an AT&T update in sight. It is a little bothersome and makes me worry that I might have invested my money on a phone that is not going to get the right support.

[maevro]

This is not even a Google issue. I've been a loyal AT&T user for years and they have always been behind on updates. I had tons of WinMo phones that I used cracked ROMs and radios.

People shouldn't buy a phone hoping that the company keeps its promise of an update. I was a rep for companies like HTC, Nokia and Samsung. The US is a small market on the scheme of things.

When its released, its released. I've seen too many updates in phones where the Rom was rushed and then you have everyone whining about update issues.

I go thru phones, both locked and unlocked like water. I was just given a HTC Aria. Is love it to have 2.2 butits running 2.1 and I'm happy with this phone, very happy.

BTW I had a Backflip with a non official 2.1 update. It was full of problems, which is what happens when you rush this stuff. No wonder AT&T nor Motorola has officially released it.

I agree with the OP. Relax.

[ock]

Originally Posted by potheadhero

I have just been very bothered due to the fact that only T-Mobile updates have leaked out and not one sign of an AT&T update in sight. It is a little bothersome and makes me worry that I might have invested my money on a phone that is not going to get the right support.

This is pure speculation but the reasoning that I would assume is simply because the T-Mobile variant was the original version and the one that the devs at Google were supplied with (for example, the holiday phones). So this is the one that is being used to produce, test, and rework Froyo as it's built. I'm sure once it's ready for primetime, they will then complete the port of it over to the AT&T variant as well which won't require too much modification.

[tjp888]

Originally Posted by ock

AT&T has no say in the firmware going to the N1. The only thing associating the phone with AT&T is that the model in reference includes support for their 3G bands. Since they do not offer official support nor do they sell it through themselves with subsidy, AT&T can hold no say in what gets pushed to it.

But yeah, definitely. If Google does it just simply to be on AT&T's good side, that would be messed up. But that would be Google's decision, not AT&T.

With AT&T charging $20/month for iPhone tethering, I just can't see them letting this slip by on the 2.2 update.

If somehow they do allow the tethering, it will be sooo much fun to rub it in on all the iPhone users I know.