Headphone Jack

**BKHAWK3** · 10-23-2011, 09:05 AM

Was the headphone jack put on the bottom of phone for purely cosmetic reason?

**kcls** · 10-23-2011, 09:15 AM

Oh it is? That kinda sucks.

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**bxojr** · 10-23-2011, 09:26 AM

Are you kidding? That's exactly where a headphone jack ought to be. If the headphone jack is on the bottom, that means it will be pointing upward when it's in your pocket. And if the phone is sitting on a desk in front of you, or in your hand, it means the headphone jack will be pointing toward you. Basically, it ensures that the headphone jack will be closest to your head, which is where it ought to be. It means they paid attention to usability when they designed the hardware.

I'm glad to hear they got it right!

**Hearthatvoiceagain** · 10-23-2011, 09:37 AM

Ultimately it won't make much of a difference to me. My G1 didn't even have a headphone jack (you used the usb socket and an adaptor) so I carried that top down in my pocket, My Desire has it at the top so that gets carried top up. since the notification LED is on the bottom too it kind of makes sense, you have the phone bottom up due to the jack and can also see notification without pulling the phone all the way out.

**kcls** · 10-23-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by bxojr

Are you kidding? That's exactly where a headphone jack ought to be. If the headphone jack is on the bottom, that means it will be pointing upward when it's in your pocket. And if the phone is sitting on a desk in front of you, or in your hand, it means the headphone jack will be pointing toward you. Basically, it ensures that the headphone jack will be closest to your head, which is where it ought to be. It means they paid attention to usability when they designed the hardware.

I'm glad to hear they got it right!

Actually you're right, I never thought of it that way.

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**1088933** · 10-23-2011, 11:16 AM

Pretty sweet if you ask me!

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**E_man** · 10-23-2011, 11:58 AM

I agree, my phone is always top down in my pocket, and the most common reason I have to replace my headphones is damage to the wire near the plug from the stress of that. This is awesome. Apple does the same thing on the iPod Touch, but not the iPhone for some reason.

**Alp** · 10-23-2011, 02:21 PM

I really don't get why so few phones have this, my Desire HD got it and I can clearly see the reason for this from a logical standpoint even through i barely ever use wired headphones.

Not sure why HTC went back to placing it on the top.

**koolbon** · 10-23-2011, 03:54 PM

It's great. I don't have to put the phone in my pocket top up, and pull it out and turn turn it around to do anything!!

**1088933** · 10-23-2011, 03:58 PM

And, if you DO put your phone top down, pocket lint and fluff wont get jammed in it. #Win

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**giograves** · 10-23-2011, 08:34 PM

Oh great. So I cant stand my phone up anymore when using headphones on skype. Or leave it standing up portrait on my treadmill's ledge. s,h

So they changed this functionality only for pocket pull convenience...riiiiiiight...

**yapkuen** · 10-23-2011, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by giograves

Oh great. So I cant stand my phone up anymore when using headphones on skype. Or leave it standing up portrait on my treadmill's ledge. s,h

So they changed this functionality only for pocket pull convenience...riiiiiiight...

Heh. Yeah, if they really did do it for pocket convenience, they clearly overlooked several other situations in the process.

For my part, my phone is always topside up in my pocket. I hold it topside up while handling it in portrait, then flip it around along the vertical axis (so that it's rightside up and the screen is facing out) and slip it into my pocket.

**BitGambit** · 10-23-2011, 10:12 PM

This works perfect for me, I'm glad it's on the bottom of the phone.. If I dock my phone, there's no reason to use the headphones as I'm just using the speaker instead.. If it is important to me, I'll just be sure to use a dock with a line out.

**Aguaski** · 10-23-2011, 10:26 PM

Bottom of the phone will not be a problem for me 1/2 of the time. The other 1/2 when this will be a problem is when I have it in an armband to workout. Hopefully the screen will rotate if I put the phone upside down in the armband.

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**cdf3** · 10-24-2011, 08:14 AM

Based on the phone's design it had to be placed at the bottom.
The phone is slimmer at the top, so therefore the headphone jack could not be placed there.

**Andrew Ruffolo** · 10-24-2011, 08:32 AM

I like it. I bring my dock with me for when i run on the treadmill... id rather watch netflix when i run than listen to music. No matter the situation, this is better than placing a charging port on the side of the phone. Thats what i find more annoying than anything else on my bolt.

**rabaker07** · 10-24-2011, 07:18 PM

Hmmm.. this will be bad on long trips in the car when I usually have it in the cup holder connected to the aux input and usb for power. I'll have the phone upside down and Nav will be useless other than voice. Hopefully the screen will flip when upside down for this reason alone...

**E_man** · 10-24-2011, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by giograves

Oh great. So I cant stand my phone up anymore when using headphones on skype. Or leave it standing up portrait on my treadmill's ledge. s,h

So they changed this functionality only for pocket pull convenience...riiiiiiight...

I'd bet far more people pocket their phone than use it on a treadmill and skype

**kharrigan** · 10-24-2011, 08:32 PM

... besides, you can always use bluetooth headphones if you really want convenience...

**giograves** · 10-24-2011, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by rabaker07

Hopefully the screen will flip when upside down for this reason alone...

This. Then both camps get their needs met.

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**1088933** · 10-25-2011, 10:59 AM

I can see the pros and cons for both. It will be really nice to have it on the bottom for when I have my phone in my pockets, or if its just laying on a desk at work. But it won't be nice when I plug it into my car and try to put in in a cup holder. In any event, it isn't going to make or break my experience with this phone so I'm not going to worry much about it.

**CarbonOak** · 10-26-2011, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by 1088933

I can see the pros and cons for both. It will be really nice to have it on the bottom for when I have my phone in my pockets, or if its just laying on a desk at work. But it won't be nice when I plug it into my car and try to put in in a cup holder. In any event, it isn't going to make or break my experience with this phone so I'm not going to worry much about it.

(emphasis mine)

This is exactly what I use mine for. I rarely use mine with headphones; only for AUX input in the car. But I agree, having it at the bottom won't break my experience with it. Even better is if the screen flips when it's upside down, then it won't even matter

**blackmannx#AC** · 10-26-2011, 06:33 PM

Gonna share something I have seen thus far.. I listen to google music in the car (aux port) and having the device headphone jack at the bottom places lots of strain if you place it like that.. I do not like that design choice but it was due to the way the device is constructed. Lots of people will not even understand the screen rotation feature but I see alot of damaged and failed headphone jacks in the future as i have replaced a unit myself due to that.. and i know better..

just a heads up..

**masterxchief** · 10-28-2011, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by blackmannx

Gonna share something I have seen thus far.. I listen to google music in the car (aux port) and having the device headphone jack at the bottom places lots of strain if you place it like that.. I do not like that design choice but it was due to the way the device is constructed. Lots of people will not even understand the screen rotation feature but I see alot of damaged and failed headphone jacks in the future as i have replaced a unit myself due to that.. and i know better..

just a heads up..

The strain that you're talking about is from when the device sits on the aux plug in the phone?

I use one of these things in my car: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014S5FVQ/ref=oh_o04_s00_i00_details Would that get around putting strain on the headphone port?

**hyperdude** · 10-28-2011, 07:23 PM

Is it unacceptable to put the phone upside-down in the cup-holder? I mean, either turn off auto-rotate and set it in there, or pull it out and turn it over to change tracks and such.

Personally I'm far happier having the jack on the bottom because it makes it that much easier to just put the phone in a pocket and be able to control it quickly. As opposed to using my OG Droid, and putting it "right-side-up" into my pocket.